Conservative Christians and Cussing

Apparently there's some discussion at 4U on getting rid of the profanity filter. How do you fellow Conservative Christians feel about reading through filth on a "christian" message board?

For myself, I can't stand cussing in real life and don't think that a message board that calls itself "christian" should permit it.

I don't think there's anything necessarily unChristian about cussing, unless of course it takes the Lord's name in vain, which Christians should never do. Does it conflict with the Christian cultures most of us are part of? No doubt it does, but that's not the same as conflicting with Christ's teachings or with the Bible.

My own feeling is that a Christian board like this one should have a cuss filter, but it should be set fairly loosely, so that the worst offending words are filtered, but people can still speak as they would in daily life without having to censor themselves. An example of what I mean: When I mention the name of the style of Karate I used to practice, some boards filter it. Let's see if that happens here. It's [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]o-ryu Karate.

P.S.: Cool! It didn't get filtered! Maybe the profanity filter here is smarter than others.

Thanks for bringing this information here; haven't seen that and would like a link.

The so-called "profanity filter" was a really bad joke. It was a silly gesture, substituting "wash my mouth" over and over struck me as demeaning and inane.

It did nothing to address the real issue of using consideration and courtesy that we want to use to put our best foot forward.

The lure to being rebellious and immature about vulgarity has really gained popular support. The real tragedy is that there is no benefit at all to those who enjoy it so much.

They do not count the loss of self-respect, dignity, and the joys of pleasant relationships which must reside in good-will and sincerity, rather than lower mentality and contempt.

Replacement of the "profanity filter" with common sense rules about consideration for others who are repelled by obscenity and coarse humor would be better.

Staff needs to step back from this come as you are liberalism and return to having standards for expecting members stop their wholesale entitlements to post anything and everything.

Taking care to post simply and without single-minded concentration on playing games with other people's minds would be a giant leap forward.

Isn't it time to give up, especially on a Christian forum, the mentality of anonymity and play-acting in posts?

Is it even possible ever again to treat each other as real individuals, just as though we were face to face and in civilized conversations?

I just wonder.

Izdaari said:

I don't think there's anything necessarily unChristian about cussing, unless of course it takes the Lord's name in vain, which Christians should never do. Does it conflict with the Christian cultures most of us are part of? No doubt it does, but that's not the same as conflicting with Christ's teachings or with the Bible.

My own feeling is that a Christian board like this one should have a cuss filter, but it should be set fairly loosely, so that the worst offending words are filtered, but people can still speak as they would in daily life without having to censor themselves. An example of what I mean: When I mention the name of the style of Karate I used to practice, some boards filter it. Let's see if that happens here. It's [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]o-ryu Karate.

P.S.: Cool! It didn't get filtered! Maybe the profanity filter here is smarter than others.

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People who cuss in daily life need some freedom to post like that, all over CF?
Why?

This is your personal view, but please leave traditional Christians to their belief that profanity, in all forms, are to be avoided.

"Our Christian faith can not be separated from our views on politics and society, or any other area of life.

The Conservative Christian worldview holds the following values and views to be necessary expressions of Christian morality based upon Holy Scripture and the established teachings of the Christian Church...."

http://foru.ms/t6377207-cc-statement-of-faith-and-guidelines.html

1 Peter 4:11
If anyone speaks, he should do it as one speaking the very words of God. If anyone serves, he should do it with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen.

Ephesians 4


17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

As far as I know Lee is not planning to turn off the swear filter.

Here is the rule that we are moderating with:

Do not say racist or sexist things. If the swear filter is activated, edit your post, don't try to bypass it. Don't post graphics or text you would not be comfortable sharing with someone's grandmother.

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http://foru.ms/rules

I think the deciding factor will be context. For instance, "damn" in a biblical context is not swearing. While "damn you" would be considered unacceptable.

I don't appreciate cussing and would rather not have to negotiate such stumbling blocks on this site.

Having been in the Navy, I'm used to it and can tolerate it to a degree, if it is not habitual. Still...

To the degree one resorts to cussing is the degree to which they are incapable of controlling their passion and likely are incapable of articulating whatever they thought their point might have been in the first place.

We must all learn this lesson and if filtering foul language works to that end, I'm for it.

Who cannot control their passion, whether in word or deed, only makes victims of those in their presence, whether they are the target of that passion or not.

Karl Jaeger

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It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

Mark Twain

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Even a fool, when he keeps silent, is considered wise; when he closes his lips, he is counted prudent.

Proverbs 17:28

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Cussing is ingracious, immodest, imprudent, and inarticulate. Such language does not reflect the person, character, or values of our Lord, in whose name we are called.

DerSchweik said:

I don't appreciate cussing and would rather not have to negotiate such stumbling blocks on this site.

Having been in the Navy, I'm used to it and can tolerate it to a degree, if it is not habitual. Still...

To the degree one resorts to cussing is the degree to which they are incapable of controlling their passion and likely are incapable of articulating whatever they thought their point might have been in the first place.

We must all learn this lesson and if filtering foul language works to that end, I'm for it.

Cussing is ingracious, immodest, imprudent, and inarticulate. Such language does not reflect the person, character, or values of our Lord, in whose name we are called.

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Your quote:

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Who cannot control their passion, whether in word or deed, only makes victims of those in their presence, whether they are the target of that passion or not.

Karl Jaeger


This concept seems totally inconceivable to online discussion groups, especially those who claim total entitlement to their own freedom to speak, while denying to others the freedom from ugly language.

Latreia said:

People who cuss in daily life need some freedom to post like that, all over CF?
Why?

This is your personal view, but please leave traditional Christians to their belief that profanity, in all forms, are to be avoided.

"Our Christian faith can not be separated from our views on politics and society, or any other area of life.

The Conservative Christian worldview holds the following values and views to be necessary expressions of Christian morality based upon Holy Scripture and the established teachings of the Christian Church...."

http://foru.ms/t6377207-cc-statement-of-faith-and-guidelines.html

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Funny, I don't remember reading anything in the SoF (which, btw, I do subscribe to) about cussing. I don't myself care for profanity, and I did say we ought to have a profanity filter here, though I said it ought to be set fairly loosely.

Perhaps you should read what I actually write, instead of ascribing to me whatever it is you imagine I believe.

Izdaari said:

Funny, I don't remember reading anything in the SoF (which, btw, I do subscribe to) about cussing. I don't myself care for profanity, and I did say we ought to have a profanity filter here, though I said it ought to be set fairly loosely.

Perhaps you should read what I actually write, instead of ascribing to me whatever it is you imagine I believe.

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I did read your post, including the "cool" ps. It did not seem to have much regard for conservative traditional mores.

Izdaari said:

I don't think there's anything necessarily unChristian about cussing, unless of course it takes the Lord's name in vain, which Christians should never do. Does it conflict with the Christian cultures most of us are part of? No doubt it does, but that's not the same as conflicting with Christ's teachings or with the Bible.

My own feeling is that a Christian board like this one should have a cuss filter, but it should be set fairly loosely, so that the worst offending words are filtered, but people can still speak as they would in daily life without having to censor themselves.
An example of what I mean: When I mention the name of the style of Karate I used to practice, some boards filter it. Let's see if that happens here. It's [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]o-ryu Karate.

P.S.: Cool! It didn't get filtered! Maybe the profanity filter here is smarter than others.

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Latreia said:

I did read your post, including the "cool" ps. It did not seem to have much regard for conservative traditional mores.

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Yes, it's "cool" that I can write the name of my Karate style without it being censored, which would be utterly silly and not especially conservative.

Latreia said:

Your quote:

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Who cannot control their passion, whether in word or deed, only makes victims of those in their presence, whether they are the target of that passion or not.

Karl Jaeger


This concept seems totally inconceivable to online discussion groups, especially those who claim total entitlement to their own freedom to speak, while denying to others the freedom from ugly language.

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Hi Latreia!

Karl is a good friend and we've spoken on this topic quite a bit; whether distasteful "art," or language, or whatever, it seems those who scream loudest, demanding a forum on the basis of their first amendment "rights" too easily deny others similar rights to the absolute primacy of their own.

One man's "rights" are in fact, another man's obligation. In the exercise of their "rights" we become bound by obligation to listen, read, hear, or see whatever they please.

Such then are the "rights" of a victim.

DerSchweik said:

Hi Latreia!

Karl is a good friend and we've spoken on this topic quite a bit; whether distasteful "art," or language, or whatever, it seems those who scream loudest, demanding a forum on the basis of their first amendment "rights" too easily deny others similar rights to the absolute primacy of their own.

One man's "rights" are in fact, another man's obligation. In the exercise of their "rights" we become bound by obligation to listen, read, hear, or see whatever they please.

Such then are the "rights" of a victim.

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I have had people get mad at me when I inform them that while the 1st ammendment guarantees their right to say just about anything, it doesn't mean I am required to listen to it.

rmw8855 said:

I have had people get mad at me when I inform them that while the 1st ammendment guarantees their right to say just about anything, it doesn't mean I am required to listen to it.

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Interesting, isn't it? LOL

Those who get mad believe their rights are "absolute." Your claim to a right not to listen constitutes a negation of such absolutes; and in the hypocrisy of their claims, they get angry; they fume over their inability to reconcile themselves to the fact that they are not the sole occupants of their universe.

PS - Love your Bichon!

DerSchweik said:

PS - Love your Bichon!

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ahem.....

ContentInHim said:

Apparently there's some discussion at 4U on getting rid of the profanity filter. How do you fellow Conservative Christians feel about reading through filth on a "christian" message board?

For myself, I can't stand cussing in real life and don't think that a message board that calls itself "christian" should permit it.

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I kinda don't mind the profanity filter, because there are times (but hardly) when I type something and the "wash my mouth" thing comes up. That's when I know that I don't say something appropriate for Christian standards and I feel it helps me speak with more propriety in real life lol

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Where I don't think cussing to be a sin that leads to death, I think we're better off with the filter. Honestly, many get offended, and for their sake the filter should remain.