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In the U.S yes dresses (at Macys and like stores) are made for women here are, I said that. God doesnt speak of dresses in scripture. They wore robes and women wore robes too. In other cultures the men still wear robes. Here they dont lol

Ever see this real life letter to this radio show host?^_^ I died laughing
I'd rep you if it was possible. :thumbsup: :D :)
 
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The rule of thumb is, if the principle from the law is reiterated in the NT then it is carried over for us. The NT is built upon the OT.

I suppose this whole exercise is pretty pointless. The church is in a quagmire. Sin is so prevailing in our culture today... it's amazing. The mystery of iniquity.
 
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The rule of thumb is, if the principle from the law is reiterated in the NT then it is carried over for us. The NT is built upon the OT.

I suppose this whole exercise is pretty pointless. The church is in a quagmire. Sin is so prevailing in our culture today... it's amazing. The mystery of iniquity.

The old testament consists of the law and the prophets right? Paul says a righteousness "without the law" was manifested "to which" the law and the prophets testify.

Sin was by the commandment was it not?

The TONGUE is a WORLD of iniquity, what a mystery that is too.
 
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The rule of thumb is, if the principle from the law is reiterated in the NT then it is carried over for us. The NT is built upon the OT.

I suppose this whole exercise is pretty pointless. The church is in a quagmire. Sin is so prevailing in our culture today... it's amazing. The mystery of iniquity.
the world invaded the church. we call it the new catholicism. The church, having lost much of it's power with God, turned to worldly things to lure people in, and worldly messages like the prosperity doctrine, thus diluting the churches power with God. When I became a christian in 1971 it was a common thing for people who got saved to destroy all their rock music 45's and lp's, NOt today, today rock music is in the church. The devil has brought his filthy rock music into the church and if the saints of 1971 could rise up they would condemn this generation. not only that but christian men have adopted worldly hair styles, long hair for men, tatoos, ear pierscings for ear rings. the church is going downhill everywhere. and nobody even sees it or cares. it's a very sad state of affairs when most christians in here defend a man wearing blatantly women's clothes and act like i'm some ignoramous for saying so.
 
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Joseph and Daniel wore a chain around their neck is that considered girly?


2Titus 1:16 The Lord give mercy unto the house of Onesiphorus; for he oft refreshed me, and was not ashamed of my chain: :thumbsup:

Dont be ashamed of "the chain", whether literal or metaphorical:thumbsup:
 
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the world invaded the church. we call it the new catholicism. The church, having lost much of it's power with God, turned to worldly things to lure people in, and worldly messages like the prosperity doctrine, thus diluting the churches power with God. When I became a christian in 1971 it was a common thing for people who got saved to destroy all their rock music 45's and lp's, NOt today, today rock music is in the church. The devil has brought his filthy rock music into the church and if the saints of 1971 could rise up they would condemn this generation. not only that but christian men have adopted worldly hair styles, long hair for men, tatoos, ear pierscings for ear rings. the church is going downhill everywhere. and nobody even sees it or cares. it's a very sad state of affairs when most christians in here defend a man wearing blatantly women's clothes and act like i'm some ignoramous for saying so.


That is not true. Rock music in the church? No, only music created for God! If it sounds like rock music and you hate it, you are only revealing a bias toward style!

Lively music created on instruments and God-worshiping lyrics from scripture has NOTHING to do with the devil.

What you reveal is a wicked legalism which stops the flow of the Holy Spirit.

HolySpirit-led churches are growing because they are leading people to Christ and consolidating them in the faith! Stolid, judgmental stick-in-the-muds who refuse to allow the Holy Spirit to free them in worship will eventally die out.
 
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the world invaded the church. we call it the new catholicism. The church, having lost much of it's power with God, turned to worldly things to lure people in, and worldly messages like the prosperity doctrine, thus diluting the churches power with God. When I became a christian in 1971 it was a common thing for people who got saved to destroy all their rock music 45's and lp's, NOt today, today rock music is in the church. The devil has brought his filthy rock music into the church and if the saints of 1971 could rise up they would condemn this generation. not only that but christian men have adopted worldly hair styles, long hair for men, tatoos, ear pierscings for ear rings. the church is going downhill everywhere. and nobody even sees it or cares. it's a very sad state of affairs when most christians in here defend a man wearing blatantly women's clothes and act like i'm some ignoramous for saying so.

Legalism invades. There are those who make mechandise of you if you let them. The ones who prosper off of the prosperity doctrines are those preaching it, teachers receive the greater condemnation.

I found where sons (back in the day) wore earrings here. It seemed common.

Exdodus 32:2 Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.

Now after taking them off giving them to Aaron to make gods out of them isnt advised.

Exodus 35:22 And they came, both men and women, as many as were willing hearted, and brought bracelets, and earrings, and rings, and tablets, all jewels of gold: and every man that offered offered an offering of gold unto the LORD.

They all brought jewelry.
 
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Here they wre told to put Jewels on their sons

Ex 3:22 But every woman shall borrow of her neighbour, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and ye shall put them upon your sons,:thumbsup: and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the Egyptians.

In every conversation I learn so much^_^
 
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Here they wre told to put Jewels on their sons

Ex 3:22 But every woman shall borrow of her neighbour, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and ye shall put them upon your sons,:thumbsup: and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the Egyptians.

In every conversation I learn so much^_^
That's interesting. I've don't care much for jewelry myself on men or women. Just doesn't interest me.

Hey I got your joke about Paul's chain... But that one was real obvious. Any more subtle and it would have flown right over my short hair.
 
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That is not true. Rock music in the church? No, only music created for God! If it sounds like rock music and you hate it, you are only revealing a bias toward style!
Rock music is just african tribal demon worship music. pagan africans used rock music to conjure up demons and they brought it over here to america. it is the syncopathic beat that is demonic.
float said:
Lively music created on instruments and God-worshiping lyrics from scripture has NOTHING to do with the devil.
the devil has his music and it has invaded the church, there is hardly any god annointed music in the church anymore. contemporary christian music is almost totally devoid of any annointing.
float said:
What you reveal is a wicked legalism which stops the flow of the Holy Spirit.
Hardly, the flow of the spirit is greater in the church I go to than any other church i have ever been in or heard of.
float said:
HolySpirit-led churches are growing because they are leading people to Christ and consolidating them in the faith! Stolid, judgmental stick-in-the-muds who refuse to allow the Holy Spirit to free them in worship will eventally die out.
pentecostal churches are loaded with legalism which is why they are so universally full of dead or almost dead services. they have watered down the word of god so much that it has caused them to loose touch with god and more in touch with all kinds of worldly programs to draw people in. thats why they went to worldlyness because people weren't comeing in to here the unadulterated word of God. People want a watered down version of the word. people in churches say they want more of the spirit as long as they don't have to do anything different than what they are doing. they say they want more faith, as long as they don't have to go through any trials, they say they want perfection, as long as they don't have to take their selves to the cross, people say they want more of god's love , as long as they don't have to express that love any way different than they are now. People say they want to b e led of the spirit into all truth, as long as they don't have to change anything that they believe now.
 
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Define Rock n Roll.

The rock culture birthed the open rebellion of long hair and feminine dress, on guys and, short hair butch look on women. Lawlessness, rebellion. The music of that culture has diversified. Today what would have traditionally been known as Rock is often called Country and Rock today is a whole spectrum of styles.
 
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Legalism invades. There are those who make mechandise of you if you let them. The ones who prosper off of the prosperity doctrines are those preaching it, teachers receive the greater condemnation.

I found where sons (back in the day) wore earrings here. It seemed common.

Exdodus 32:2 Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.

Now after taking them off giving them to Aaron to make gods out of them isnt advised.

Exodus 35:22 And they came, both men and women, as many as were willing hearted, and brought bracelets, and earrings, and rings, and tablets, all jewels of gold: and every man that offered offered an offering of gold unto the LORD.

They all brought jewelry.
welll I grew up in the 50s and 60s and a guy wearing earrings and bracelets and jewelery would have been considered a homosexual. I still get the weebee jeebees just thinking of piercing my ears or wearing a necklace or a bracelet, aor any such thing, to me and the people I know, that kind of stuff is for gals only. when I see someone dressed as PJW said he went to church in, I automatically think 'homosexual'. I don't live in the time of david, and today in my neighborhood, a guy dressed like pjw would be considered homosexual my most everyone. If you think it's macho male dress fine , if everyone in your church thinks guys should wear lipstick , fine, but we don't and won't and won't allow it.
 
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the devil has his music and it has invaded the church, there is hardly any god annointed music in the church anymore. contemporary christian music is almost totally devoid of any annointing.

Hmmm... Well I can't speak for others but, I like my music and the lyrics I write are good... I'm not sure about the syncopathic beat issue. How do you define a beat as evil?
 
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Hmmm... Well I can't speak for others but, I like my music and the lyrics I write are good... I'm not sure about the syncopathic beat issue. How do you define a beat as evil?
Our music ministry leader did a whole hour long sermon on the demonic nature of rock music, He could explain it much better than I, but the syncopathic beat is harmfull to your health because it interferes with your natural heart beat rythym. rock music conjures up demons, most of the words you can't understand because they are drowned out by the loud beat, It is satan who invented rock music, it's his music, most every christian knew this years ago, but now that satan has infiltrated the church with his music , times are different. I think the demonic nature of rock music is more readily observeable in its most extreme form such as heavy metal, or rap music or punk rock. soft rock is not as demonic and designed to draw you into more deeper demonic rock such as the aforementioned versions of it. I'm sure that god gives annointed music to people in the churches, I just never heard much that I considered annointed when i was roaming from church to church, songs like "what a mighty god we serve," or "I will enter his house with thanksgiving in my heart" I consider annointed, but the annointed songs , IMO are few and far between. and I'm just speaking of pentecostal churches not baptist or methodist or some such, I think annointed music in those churches is almost nonexistant, unless they bring in some pentecostal tunes.
 
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Our music ministry leader did a whole hour long sermon on the demonic nature of rock music, He could explain it much better than I, but the syncopathic beat is harmfull to your health because it interferes with your natural heart beat rythym. rock music conjures up demons, most of the words you can't understand because they are drowned out by the loud beat, It is satan who invented rock music, it's his music, most every christian knew this years ago, but now that satan has infiltrated the church with his music , times are different. I think the demonic nature of rock music is more readily observeable in its most extreme form such as heavy metal, or rap music or punk rock. soft rock is not as demonic and designed to draw you into more deeper demonic rock such as the aforementioned versions of it. I'm sure that god gives annointed music to people in the churches, I just never heard much that I considered annointed when i was roaming from church to church, songs like "what a mighty god we serve," or "I will enter his house with thanksgiving in my heart" I consider annointed, but the annointed songs , IMO are few and far between. and I'm just speaking of pentecostal churches not baptist or methodist or some such, I think annointed music in those churches is almost nonexistant, unless they bring in some pentecostal tunes.
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odd, given that it is pentecostal and charismatic churches that are at the heart of the contemporary christian music movement and modern Christian rock music.
 
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Legalism invades. There are those who make mechandise of you if you let them. The ones who prosper off of the prosperity doctrines are those preaching it, teachers receive the greater condemnation.

I found where sons (back in the day) wore earrings here. It seemed common.

Exdodus 32:2 Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.

Now after taking them off giving them to Aaron to make gods out of them isnt advised.

Exodus 35:22 And they came, both men and women, as many as were willing hearted, and brought bracelets, and earrings, and rings, and tablets, all jewels of gold: and every man that offered offered an offering of gold unto the LORD.

They all brought jewelry.
“And Pharaoh took off his ring from his hand, and put it upon Joseph's hand, and arrayed him in vestures of fine linen, and put a gold chain about his neck...”

Ps 25:12,
“As an earring of gold, and an ornament of fine gold, so is a wise reprover upon an obedient ear.”


Isa 61:10,
“I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.”




I got to confess I've never must have over these passages. I'm glad I didn't allow my personal feelings persuade me to say something about jewelry. Ha!
 
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