i beleive that it is, with great assurance.
becuase we are commanded of god to live holy sinless lives.
in mark 1.75
"....that we might serve him without fear, in holiness and righteousness all the days of our life."
it is clearly stated that that is the will of God for mature christians and nothing less, it is not Gods will for us to live in sin any longer.
paul thought it was a rediculous thing to see mature christians still living in sin.
romans 6.1-2
what shall we say then?
shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?
GOD FORBID!
HOW SHALL WE THAT ARE DEAD TO SIN, LIVE THEREIN ANYLONGER?
it is totally rediculous for a mature christian to continue in sin according to Paul and the word of God.
there is a blasphemous theory going around and in the minds of people today that we, even saved, cannot overcome sin.
for reasons like, the flesh, were not perfect like the father,
well never be able to rid ourselves totally of sin but be in a life long process, that only one person ever lived holy and that was jesus.
but before anything else, we must know and come to agreement that it is the absolute will of God to live holy and righteous and no longer live in sin. i could give more and more scripture, but 2 or 3 is enough.
it is not debatable in light of scripture whether or not it is the will of God, for us to live holy, and righteously, and no longer live in sin. it surely is, or nothing in the scripture is clearly understood.
people give many reasons why we cannot live holy for long periods of time, but we know it is the will of God for us to be live holy ALL THE DAYS OF OUR LIFE. it is not debatable.
i say this, "you are wrong becuase you do not know the scripture nor the power of God"
a number of reasons are given by people that we cannot live holy.
1.the flesh, or carnal man sold under sin.
but, the bible is to clear in romans ch.6.1-5
that we who have been baptised into christ, have also been baptised into his death with him.
and just as jesus rose again from the dead, with a new life unto God forever, we also, through the holyspirit quickening our mortal bodies, can live NEW LIVES UNTO GOD.
so that our old man, our past sins and humanflesh limitations could be crucified, and the body of sin be destroyed, so that we can live new lives, and no longer serve sin. rom ch. 6.6
people today beleive and have the mindset that we must serve sin, so they serve sin.
but we commanded to have the mindset that says "we are dead to sin, but alive unto god. that that old sinful life in sin is gone forever and now i must serve God being free from sin or anything against his will, in my new life." rom. 6.11
and here we have another very strong command of God that we must no longer serve sin, or let it rain in our mortal bodies, obeying it and the lusts of our mortal bodies. rom. 6.12
some people think that since we are now under grace, christians and apart of his family sin no longer matters for some reason.
but, rom6.15,16 says that even though we are under grace, no longer sin, God forbid we sin!
becuase dont you know that to whom you obey, you are his servant! either sinning making sin your master, or obeying god, unto righteousness as your master. even though were under grace.
and these are full christians too, or else it would not be right to say they are under grace, becuase they would not have not came unto his family yet and received grace.
serving sin, makes you a sinner, and serving god, is righteousness.
many people also that even though we are christians and born again, we are still sinners for we still sin.
there is no such thing, as a saint and a sinner in the same body, you cannot be both at the same time.
rom 6.20
"for when ye were servants of sin, YOU WERE FREE FROM RIGHTEOUSNESS!"
or, when you sin there is nothing righteous about you, or, you are free from the chains and bondadge of rightousness. you are free from all righteousness when you serve sin.
but we are supposed to be free from sin, being servants of righteousness. rom. 6.18
probly the biggest passage of scripture that people use to teach that saints are still sinners is rom 7.
were paul says
i am carnal sold under sin. v.14
i do that which i hate, and cannot do what i want. v.15
and so on throughout that chapter. but it is clearly talking about
pauls life still bound under sin, at one point in his life, these statements were true about him, and he making these statements to paint a clear picture of the bondadge people are in, who are not yet set free.
they are in this bondage by "the law of sin" which is in the body overpowering the body and causing it to serve sin and disobey the law, so that it must pay the death penalty. this the picture its describing all through this chapter. v.21-23
he says then, "who shall deliver me....?" v.25
and then is a mistake made by a copiest,
"so then with my mind, i serve the law of god, but with my body the law of sin" this verse should have been placed after v.23.
becuase it simply cannot fit between the first statement of v.25, and the begining of ch.8.
which says that the holyspirit has now made him free from "the law of sin and the law of death" by "the law of the spirit of life in christ jesus" ch.8.2
ch.7 showed a picture of his old life and states that he was in bondadge to the sin by "the law of sin" but ch.8 clearly shows that now, this is no longer true of him. becuase it clearly states he is now free from "the law of sin" by "the law of the spirit..."
and continues in more depth.
so, it is not true, that rom ch.7 is teaching that we christians must live in sin, under the law of sin, becuase paul states in ch.8 that he is now free from that law of sin by the power of the holyspirit through jesus. this gods will for all christians.
we simply are not supposed to serve sin, so what if you crave it, your supposed to deny yourself and not obey your mortal bodies, serving it, but serving God.
I HAVE FOUND, THAT EVEN THOUGH MY BODY DOES HAVE A VERY STRONG APETITE FOR SIN, IF I WILLING TO TURN AND FIGHT ITIN THE POWER OF JESUS, THAT I NEVER LOSE!
i beleive the reason people are bound in sin, is either the truth has not yet set them free from it, the word has not yet revealed to them that they are able to do so.
or, we are just giving up without a fight.
i know sin sometimes look bad, looks strong and we are sometimes intimidated, but we are promised power over all things! the desire in us almost seems unbeatable. and we want it so much, and we think we cannot overcome it.
luke 10.19,20. says that we can trample satan and all his power.
psalms 91 says that we can tread on lions, adders, young lions, and dragons. simply meaning, nothing can touch you! you have power and dominion over all things, if you are willing to deny your flesh and turn and take up the fight, you will not lose if you have faith! becuase the holyspirit has the power to change you, and overpower the law of sin.
people say becuase we are not perfect like the father, that we must sin. but even jesus, while on earth, was not like the father or equal to him in power, knowlegde, etc.
becuase he had to pray to the father, petitioning him for many things.john 17.
he had to receive things from the father. matthew 28.18
he had to be annointed by the holyspirit from the father and had to have the spirit of the lord upon him. luke 4.18
there are things the father knows that he did not know, like angles and men and other lower beings, do not know. mark 13.32
he even had to be led around by the spirit. matthew 4.1
he even had to be made into christ and lord by the fathers power acts.2.36
jesus even admitted he was not equal to the father as far as being "good" and he was not "God", as in he was not the father nor equal to him while on earth in his flesh. mark 10.18
all this goes to show that jesus, lived a life of holiness, without being equal to god, equal to god the father. just becuase your not equal with god, does not mean you cant refuse to serve the devil.
jesus was the son of god, but he had given up all his glory and power as God, when he became a human being through mary.
there is a very reasonable aregument going around that we sin, without even knowing it, and God is in the process of removing sin from us peice by peice, and it will take a lifetime, and still never be free from it totally. notice, they say it always takes a lifetime, no matter how long youve been trying and striving, it will always take the rest of your life, and you still never really get free.
it takes almighty god a lifetime to do something? what?
they say our minds not high enough, and many other things, coming to the conclusion that man simply isnt able.
but the word of God is clear that
"the holyspirit helpeth our infirmities" infirmities not meaning sickness but weaknesses. rom.8.26
yes its talking about prayer, but it is a clear proof that the holyspirit makes up for our human minds and weaknesses of it and every other weakness in our life.
the holyspirits work doesnt take a lifetime when he is allowed to move freely, and his power makes up for our moral and physical, and mental weaknesses.
there is no reason for us to have so much sin in us that it can never be all removed for god is omnipotent, or to blame sin on your weaknesses becuase the bible promises that the holyspirit will help you and overcome that in your life.
anyway, i think ive addressed the biggest reasons people use to excuse sin in their life.
but it is clear, no matter what reason we may give, that is never the will of god for us to live anything less than holy lives, for the rest of our lives. so, that is enough proof to condemn any sin we may commit even while saved.
people beleive that jesus came to forgive, and that is all.
but it is not true, the bible says he came to forgive sin, and destroy the body of sin, that we should no longer serve sin!
he came that we may have dominion over sin! not simply be pardoned from it, over and over and over.
he did not die, that we should still live as slaves unto sin and satan, but came to destroy them both and give us his children total freedom and seat us in high places with him! psalms 91.14
the only reason for bondadge to sin in anymans life, is lack of truth becuase the truth will set you free. or lack of commitment to the new life god has given him, and lack of exercising the power of the holyspirit. and these all go down to deeper roots, but all in all, there is no real excuse for sin, in the matured christians life.
today, let us be real men and women, and accept the truth, and change. the strongmans gospel.
one reason the body of christ is no longer moving in the power of the early church and in the power of christ, or the power he intended it to (becuase he called us to finish the work he started, meaning do what he did while hes gone, he intended for us to walk in the same power and effectiveness that he did)
is becuase of the sin in the lives of christians today.
as jesus was on the cross and cried out
MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME!?
jesus had taken all the sin of humanity past present and future upon himself, and for the first time in his life, he was absent from the fathers presence, the father forsook him, turned his face from him, illustrating how God, cannot dwell in the presence of sin.
and untill we debart from the great iniquity in the body of christ today, we will never walk in the power and glory that the body of christ is supposed to be walking in.
becuase we are commanded of god to live holy sinless lives.
in mark 1.75
"....that we might serve him without fear, in holiness and righteousness all the days of our life."
it is clearly stated that that is the will of God for mature christians and nothing less, it is not Gods will for us to live in sin any longer.
paul thought it was a rediculous thing to see mature christians still living in sin.
romans 6.1-2
what shall we say then?
shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?
GOD FORBID!
HOW SHALL WE THAT ARE DEAD TO SIN, LIVE THEREIN ANYLONGER?
it is totally rediculous for a mature christian to continue in sin according to Paul and the word of God.
there is a blasphemous theory going around and in the minds of people today that we, even saved, cannot overcome sin.
for reasons like, the flesh, were not perfect like the father,
well never be able to rid ourselves totally of sin but be in a life long process, that only one person ever lived holy and that was jesus.
but before anything else, we must know and come to agreement that it is the absolute will of God to live holy and righteous and no longer live in sin. i could give more and more scripture, but 2 or 3 is enough.
it is not debatable in light of scripture whether or not it is the will of God, for us to live holy, and righteously, and no longer live in sin. it surely is, or nothing in the scripture is clearly understood.
people give many reasons why we cannot live holy for long periods of time, but we know it is the will of God for us to be live holy ALL THE DAYS OF OUR LIFE. it is not debatable.
i say this, "you are wrong becuase you do not know the scripture nor the power of God"
a number of reasons are given by people that we cannot live holy.
1.the flesh, or carnal man sold under sin.
but, the bible is to clear in romans ch.6.1-5
that we who have been baptised into christ, have also been baptised into his death with him.
and just as jesus rose again from the dead, with a new life unto God forever, we also, through the holyspirit quickening our mortal bodies, can live NEW LIVES UNTO GOD.
so that our old man, our past sins and humanflesh limitations could be crucified, and the body of sin be destroyed, so that we can live new lives, and no longer serve sin. rom ch. 6.6
people today beleive and have the mindset that we must serve sin, so they serve sin.
but we commanded to have the mindset that says "we are dead to sin, but alive unto god. that that old sinful life in sin is gone forever and now i must serve God being free from sin or anything against his will, in my new life." rom. 6.11
and here we have another very strong command of God that we must no longer serve sin, or let it rain in our mortal bodies, obeying it and the lusts of our mortal bodies. rom. 6.12
some people think that since we are now under grace, christians and apart of his family sin no longer matters for some reason.
but, rom6.15,16 says that even though we are under grace, no longer sin, God forbid we sin!
becuase dont you know that to whom you obey, you are his servant! either sinning making sin your master, or obeying god, unto righteousness as your master. even though were under grace.
and these are full christians too, or else it would not be right to say they are under grace, becuase they would not have not came unto his family yet and received grace.
serving sin, makes you a sinner, and serving god, is righteousness.
many people also that even though we are christians and born again, we are still sinners for we still sin.
there is no such thing, as a saint and a sinner in the same body, you cannot be both at the same time.
rom 6.20
"for when ye were servants of sin, YOU WERE FREE FROM RIGHTEOUSNESS!"
or, when you sin there is nothing righteous about you, or, you are free from the chains and bondadge of rightousness. you are free from all righteousness when you serve sin.
but we are supposed to be free from sin, being servants of righteousness. rom. 6.18
probly the biggest passage of scripture that people use to teach that saints are still sinners is rom 7.
were paul says
i am carnal sold under sin. v.14
i do that which i hate, and cannot do what i want. v.15
and so on throughout that chapter. but it is clearly talking about
pauls life still bound under sin, at one point in his life, these statements were true about him, and he making these statements to paint a clear picture of the bondadge people are in, who are not yet set free.
they are in this bondage by "the law of sin" which is in the body overpowering the body and causing it to serve sin and disobey the law, so that it must pay the death penalty. this the picture its describing all through this chapter. v.21-23
he says then, "who shall deliver me....?" v.25
and then is a mistake made by a copiest,
"so then with my mind, i serve the law of god, but with my body the law of sin" this verse should have been placed after v.23.
becuase it simply cannot fit between the first statement of v.25, and the begining of ch.8.
which says that the holyspirit has now made him free from "the law of sin and the law of death" by "the law of the spirit of life in christ jesus" ch.8.2
ch.7 showed a picture of his old life and states that he was in bondadge to the sin by "the law of sin" but ch.8 clearly shows that now, this is no longer true of him. becuase it clearly states he is now free from "the law of sin" by "the law of the spirit..."
and continues in more depth.
so, it is not true, that rom ch.7 is teaching that we christians must live in sin, under the law of sin, becuase paul states in ch.8 that he is now free from that law of sin by the power of the holyspirit through jesus. this gods will for all christians.
we simply are not supposed to serve sin, so what if you crave it, your supposed to deny yourself and not obey your mortal bodies, serving it, but serving God.
I HAVE FOUND, THAT EVEN THOUGH MY BODY DOES HAVE A VERY STRONG APETITE FOR SIN, IF I WILLING TO TURN AND FIGHT ITIN THE POWER OF JESUS, THAT I NEVER LOSE!
i beleive the reason people are bound in sin, is either the truth has not yet set them free from it, the word has not yet revealed to them that they are able to do so.
or, we are just giving up without a fight.
i know sin sometimes look bad, looks strong and we are sometimes intimidated, but we are promised power over all things! the desire in us almost seems unbeatable. and we want it so much, and we think we cannot overcome it.
luke 10.19,20. says that we can trample satan and all his power.
psalms 91 says that we can tread on lions, adders, young lions, and dragons. simply meaning, nothing can touch you! you have power and dominion over all things, if you are willing to deny your flesh and turn and take up the fight, you will not lose if you have faith! becuase the holyspirit has the power to change you, and overpower the law of sin.
people say becuase we are not perfect like the father, that we must sin. but even jesus, while on earth, was not like the father or equal to him in power, knowlegde, etc.
becuase he had to pray to the father, petitioning him for many things.john 17.
he had to receive things from the father. matthew 28.18
he had to be annointed by the holyspirit from the father and had to have the spirit of the lord upon him. luke 4.18
there are things the father knows that he did not know, like angles and men and other lower beings, do not know. mark 13.32
he even had to be led around by the spirit. matthew 4.1
he even had to be made into christ and lord by the fathers power acts.2.36
jesus even admitted he was not equal to the father as far as being "good" and he was not "God", as in he was not the father nor equal to him while on earth in his flesh. mark 10.18
all this goes to show that jesus, lived a life of holiness, without being equal to god, equal to god the father. just becuase your not equal with god, does not mean you cant refuse to serve the devil.
jesus was the son of god, but he had given up all his glory and power as God, when he became a human being through mary.
there is a very reasonable aregument going around that we sin, without even knowing it, and God is in the process of removing sin from us peice by peice, and it will take a lifetime, and still never be free from it totally. notice, they say it always takes a lifetime, no matter how long youve been trying and striving, it will always take the rest of your life, and you still never really get free.
it takes almighty god a lifetime to do something? what?
they say our minds not high enough, and many other things, coming to the conclusion that man simply isnt able.
but the word of God is clear that
"the holyspirit helpeth our infirmities" infirmities not meaning sickness but weaknesses. rom.8.26
yes its talking about prayer, but it is a clear proof that the holyspirit makes up for our human minds and weaknesses of it and every other weakness in our life.
the holyspirits work doesnt take a lifetime when he is allowed to move freely, and his power makes up for our moral and physical, and mental weaknesses.
there is no reason for us to have so much sin in us that it can never be all removed for god is omnipotent, or to blame sin on your weaknesses becuase the bible promises that the holyspirit will help you and overcome that in your life.
anyway, i think ive addressed the biggest reasons people use to excuse sin in their life.
but it is clear, no matter what reason we may give, that is never the will of god for us to live anything less than holy lives, for the rest of our lives. so, that is enough proof to condemn any sin we may commit even while saved.
people beleive that jesus came to forgive, and that is all.
but it is not true, the bible says he came to forgive sin, and destroy the body of sin, that we should no longer serve sin!
he came that we may have dominion over sin! not simply be pardoned from it, over and over and over.
he did not die, that we should still live as slaves unto sin and satan, but came to destroy them both and give us his children total freedom and seat us in high places with him! psalms 91.14
the only reason for bondadge to sin in anymans life, is lack of truth becuase the truth will set you free. or lack of commitment to the new life god has given him, and lack of exercising the power of the holyspirit. and these all go down to deeper roots, but all in all, there is no real excuse for sin, in the matured christians life.
today, let us be real men and women, and accept the truth, and change. the strongmans gospel.
one reason the body of christ is no longer moving in the power of the early church and in the power of christ, or the power he intended it to (becuase he called us to finish the work he started, meaning do what he did while hes gone, he intended for us to walk in the same power and effectiveness that he did)
is becuase of the sin in the lives of christians today.
as jesus was on the cross and cried out
MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME!?
jesus had taken all the sin of humanity past present and future upon himself, and for the first time in his life, he was absent from the fathers presence, the father forsook him, turned his face from him, illustrating how God, cannot dwell in the presence of sin.
and untill we debart from the great iniquity in the body of christ today, we will never walk in the power and glory that the body of christ is supposed to be walking in.