Because He claimed to be the Son of God, THUS EQUAL TO GOD. The Jews had Jesus crucified because He claimed to be God, which the Jews did not believe to be true and considered blasphemous and Jesus did not deny this.
Not when the church fathers knew the apostles personally.
From whom did you learn this? You are accusing Jesus of BLASPHEMY like what the Jews did!
Because He claimed to be the Son of God, THUS EQUAL TO GOD. The Jews had Jesus crucified because He claimed to be God, which the Jews did not believe to be true and considered blasphemous and Jesus did not deny this.
Originally posted by wblastyn
Because He claimed to be the Son of God, THUS EQUAL TO GOD. The Jews had Jesus crucified because He claimed to be God, which the Jews did not believe to be true and considered blasphemous and Jesus did not deny this.
I think that was the point you were trying to make?
Not when the church fathers knew the apostles personally.
booth! Where do you see me saying in my quote that I said the Apostles were wrong??!! If your going to participate in a normal discussion/debate you need to stop twisting the words of your opponent! There is a difference from the Apostles and the church fathers! Get it right the next time before jumbing to conclusions!
OK, booth, enough of your own words as to Jesus claiming to be equal with God, show me the scriptures why don't you?! This is something you fail to do everytime you debate either me or Ed! We have proven from scripture many times over and over the fact that He has never claimed to be God! If you want proof, just click in my profile and look up my posts if you want!
Wrong again booth, the scripture that I quoted you does not define Jesus as God and man! it defines him as a man! As usual your twisting the scriptures to justify your false doctrine! 2 John 1:7, "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." It we make Christ an all-powerful, all-knowing, untemptable co-equal part of the Supreme God, we deny that he has come "in the flesh" and we are manifested as anti-Christ's. Weather you trinitarians know it or not you are doing the very thing John warned his readers in this passage! You are belittling Christ. Most trinitarians are vey well meaning in what they teach, however, this is a serious error on their part that they are not very well aware of most of the time.
1 Corinthians 15:24,28, "Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father...And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all." The Son shall be subject to God, that God may be all in all. Jesus has been given all power in heaven and earth (Matthew 28:18) for the accomplishment of a purpose - that of bringing all things into harmony with God. When that purpose is accomplished, he relinquishes all power to God, that God may be all in all.
Jesus used parables to convey a spiritual message. As for how much I read my bible, it's a matter of how you and I read the same bible. I read mine by subordinating the interpretations of men to second place, how about you?
