iSLAM IS THE BEASTS EXCUSE.......

GeorgeFox said:

No, Islam is not based on Baal, but on God and the understanding that God is One in every sense of the word (i.e. no trinity) also known in Arabic as TAWHID which means "oneness" or "monotheism."

Some people say that they worship the ancient Arabic moon god and not the God of Israel, however that is a fallacious idea perpetrated by pseudo-scholars (usually religious people with an agenda)...

The moon god of the Arab people, prior to the advent of Islam, was a god imported from Syria and his name (which eludes me) was not Allah.

Allah, in ancient arabic paganism, was the greatest god and the creator of all the other gods and of the world. In the henotheistic paganism of the ancient arabs, he was inaccessible and completely transcendant.

Also, to those who say that Islam and Christianity worship two different Gods...

Isn't it telling that the word for God in the Aramaic that Christ spoke was "Allaha." Just food for thought.

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Actually, Islam is based upon a pagan religion. Well, at least its foundations are.

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King of the South is the southern Empire which was based in Egypt when Written. Which included the Holy land Jordan and much of Saudi Arabia and Iraq over to Libya it is all listed in the passage.

And to say it is obscure as to the end of what is just not true. the story is not over at the arbitrary end of chapter 11

1: And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2: And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

There is no doubt what "time of the End" is being referred to.[/FONT]

Carey said:

Islam literally was created by Satan.
Satan was in disguise as an ArcgAngel when he appeared to pagan Muhammad.
The reason Muhammad was tricked was because he was a pagan.
The entire religion of Islam is based on an unHoly book
called the Quran.

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That's a load of crap. Utter crap.

Just The Facts said:

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[FONT=&quot]King of the South is the southern Empire which was based in Egypt when Written. Which included the Holy land Jordan and much of Saudi Arabia and Iraq over to Libya it is all listed in the passage.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]And to say it is obscure as to the end of what is just not true. the story is not over at the arbitrary end of chapter 11[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1: And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2: And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]There is no doubt what "time of the End" is being referred to.[/FONT]

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Read Hank Hanegraaff's THE APOCALYPSE CODE...It might show you how outrageous some of these claims are and how to do appropriate and scholarly exegetical study of the scriptures so that these wild claims will cease and people will get the true sense of what scripture is trying to say...atleast when it comes to the Genre of Apocalyptic literature.

Carey said:

Warning: The following quotes are blasphemous. They are taken from the Koran (translated by N.J. Danwood). By reading these quotes you will have a basic understanding of the Muslim religion, the wars and tension in the Middle East, and the terrorism on September 11:
"...now that a Book confirming their own has come to them from God, they deny it...they reply: 'We believe in what was revealed to us.' But they deny what has since been revealed, although it is truth...Say: 'Whoever is an enemy of Gabriel' (who has by God's grace revealed to you [Muhammad] the Koran as a guide...confirming previous scriptures)..will surely find that God is the enemy of the unbelievers.'...And now that an apostle has come to them from God confirming their own Scriptures, some of those to whom the Scriptures were given cast off the Book of God behind their backs...The unbelievers among the People of the Book, and the pagans, resent that any blessings should have been sent down to you from your Lord. " (Surah 2:88-, 98-, 103-)
"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)
"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)
"Men are tempted [in this life] by the lure of women...far better is the return of God. Say: 'Shall I tell you of better things than these, with which the righteous shall be rewarded by their Lord? Theirs shall be gardens watered by running streams, where they shall dwell for ever: wives of perfect chastity..." (Surah 3:14, 15)
"The only true faith in God's sight is Islam." (Surah 3:19)
"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)
"If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches..." (Surah 3:156-)
"To those that declare: 'God has commanded us to believe no apostle unless he brings down fire to consume an offering,' say: 'Other apostles before me [Muhammad] have come to you with veritable signs and worked the miracle you asked for...If they reject you [Muhammad], other apostles have been rejected before you..." (Surah 3:183-)
"If you wish to replace a wife with another, do not take from her the dowry you have given her..." (Surah 4:20)
"Forbidden to you are...married women, except those you own as slaves." (Surah 4:20-, 24-)
"Believers, do not approach your prayers when you are drunk, but wait till you can grasp the meaning of your words..." (Surah 4:43)
"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)
"Try as you may, you cannot treat all your wives impartially." (Surah 4:126-)
"The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins?" (Surah 5:18)
"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
"The God will say: 'Jesus, son of Mary, did you ever say to mankind 'Worship me and my mother as gods besides God?' 'Glory to You, 'he will answer, 'how could I ever say that to which I have no right?" (Surah 5:114-)
"Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons...he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home..." (Surah 8:12-)
"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)
"If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by breaking off your treaty with them." (Surah 8:51-)
"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)
"It ill becomes the idolaters [non-Muslims] to visit the mosques of God..." (Surah 9:17)
"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)
"It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-)
"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)
"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)
"Say: 'Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom..." (Surah 17:111)
"'How shall I bear a child,' she [Mary] answered, 'when I am a virgin...?' 'Such is the will of the Lord,' he replied. 'That is no difficult thing for Him...God forbid that He [God[ Himself should beget a son!...Those who say: 'The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,' preach a monstrous falsehood..." (Surah 19:12-, 29-, 88)
"Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:7
"Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)
"You shall not force your slave-girls into prostitution in order that you make money, if they wish to preserve their chastity." (Surah 24:33-)
"As for the faithful who do good works and believe what is revealed to Muhammad...He will forgive them their sins..." (Surah 47:1)
"Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)
"Shall the reward of goodness be anything but good?...Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents...They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets...Blessed be the name of your Lord..." (Surah 55:52-66-)

GOD'S NAME IS NOT ALLAH
THE KINGDOM ALERT #130, P.1
I can certainly sympathize with the great responsibility political leaders have in our country during this time of tragedy. I understand that they must be careful to do their part in restraining and discouraging any persecution of citizens of Middle Eastern descent. However, we have reached a point of "politically correct" insanity. When our country was founded, "toleration" never meant approval or agreement. Suddenly, many of our political leaders and media spokesmen have become theologians, teaching the country that there is no difference in the major religions and that it somehow "hatred of people" to teach that another religion is false.

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/koran.html

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Have you ever read the Qur'an yourself or are you just copying and pasting from some biased christian anti-islamic apologetics ministry.

I read some of the ayat that you have posted and have to say that either the Ministry did some horrible translation work or they picked a twisted translation from some Al-Qa'eda like organization.

Some Examples....

Surah 2:190 if you ask any respected Islamic scholar or Jurist, you will learn that that verse (ayah) was directed to the pagan Quraysh and their allies who were persecuting and warring with the early Muslim community. You can find similar verses in the OT of our own bibles. Or did our God not command the Israelites to burn an entire village with every living being in it??? I seem to remembe something like that...oh and the genocide of the pagan Canaanites was commanded in Scripture too. (This Ayah proves nothing about the nature of Islam).

Surah 3:118-119 does not say to not make friends with unbelievers, it say (if translated correctly) to not be friends with unbelievers to the complete shunning of believers. Our NT has a similar statement "do not be unevenly yoked." How does this prove anything about Islam.

I suggest you do an academic study of Islam on your own instead of spouting other people's venom...Maybe then you will be equipped with a correct understanding of Islam in order to speak to its claims.

Start with...

The Holy Qur'an translated by Maulana Muhammad Ali
The Religion of Islam by Maulana Muhammad Ali
No God But God: The Origins, Evolution, and Future of Islam by Reza Aslan
The Great Theft: Wrestling Islam From the Extremists by Khaled Abou El Fadl

Somehow I doubt you will do your own personal academic study of the religion and you will just continue to demonize it as something evil...All I can do is raise my hands in surrender and say,"Lord, I tried."

PeaceLover02 said:

Actually, Islam is based upon a pagan religion. Well, at least its foundations are.

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So, for all intents and purposes, is Judaism...

Did you know YHWH was the king of the ancient Hebraic/Canaanite pagan gods. And that Shekinah (the Glory of God) was a goddess and his consort. Do an academic study of ancient Hebraic paganism and you will see it for yourself...So the roots of our religion are pagan too...We just lost the one up on Islam...

GeorgeFox said:

So, for all intents and purposes, is Judaism...

Did you know YHWH was the king of the ancient Hebraic/Canaanite pagan gods. And that Shekinah (the Glory of God) was a goddess and his consort. Do an academic study of ancient Hebraic paganism and you will see it for yourself...So the roots of our religion are pagan too...We just lost the one up on Islam...

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And just where did you find this blasphemy?

GeorgeFox said:

Really??? Where in the Scriptures is there any reference to anything Islamic???

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard,and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. [/FONT]
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/the_beast.htm

The first 3 of Daniel's beast empires reappear again in Revelation 13 but as a composite beast. These were/are successive conquering kingdoms that controlled the Middle East.

LION - BABYLON



BEAR - MEDO-PERSIA



LEOPARD - GREECE



LEOPARD-BEAR-LION

LEOPARD=SYRIA/LEBANON - BEAR=IRAN - LION=IRAQ
THE SEAT OF THE ISLAMIC EMPIRE

Carey said:

WELL THERE YOU GO(applause)
I did not have the patience to do that much research. Thank youand God bless you

carey

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Carey, there aren't very many with that have eyes open enough to see what you saw. If you read this absolutely free book it will give you clarity about these things like you never could have imagined possible. It will help you exegete many other parts of scripture that may currently be a mystery. And it only deals in FULFILLED prophecy, not speculation and guesswork theology. I guarantee it will bless you as richly as it has me.

The author, s[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]eventy nine year old Ellis Skolfield was raised in the Scriptures on his mother's knee as they were missionaries in the Philippines in his earliest years. In the early 1950's he attended Columbia Bible College, with studies in eschatology and Biblical archaeology. He was pastor of a Church for many years, and then later went into the world and became a successful entrepreneur in graphic design. Eventually he sold the business and was called to return to the Scriptures where he engaged in a solo full time study of Dan/Rev - setting aside commentaries - using only the Bible to define and explain itself. As a result, for nearly 30 years, he has written about the central role of Islam in end-time prophecy. The False Prophet is his latest book in this regard.[/FONT]

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/contents_tfp.htm

muslimman said:

Who is the Beast? and also muslims are not insane

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I agree. Some Christ-ians will go to any lengths

The Judeans in the CHRIST do get first crack at "redemption" though, not the Muslims.

Luke 21:28 and these things beginning to happen bend yourselves back, and lift up your heads, because the deliverence/from-loosing/apo-lutrwsiV <629> of you doth draw nigh.'

1 Corin 1:30 Out of Him yet ye are in Anointed Jesus, Who was become wisdom to us from God, righteousness besides, and hallowing and deliverence/from-loosing/apo-lutrwsiV <629>

YES! The media is making a beast of Islam and people fall for it just like commies, witches or whatever nonsense. This game has been going on forever and its powers exploiting religion. No reasonable person can think Islamic people are insane or evil or vice versa but they get heard.

peace and luv
play nice

Carey said:

YHE BEAST WILL USE THE Muslims insanity as an excuse to instill global Marshal law.

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Welllll
I don't think the Islamics will be around to practice their insanity by then.
I think they will be a non-issue after Psalm 83 is fulfilled.
Hinduism, OTH, I think is to rise and dominate the world.

anyway, I'll be in heaven celebrating my consecration as the Living Oracles teach.