Pastor Questions

Ask away. I'd be happy to help you.

Well, since you are married, you probably want to go to the same church. So, if you left and went to another church without her, it might cause some discord in the marriage. Religious/Spiritual matters are pretty important to some people.

You should ask her why she thinks God is asking/telling her to stay with this church. I would use this as a way of opening up a discussion to talk about how you feel about your current church. You have legitimate concerns, especially your feeling that you can't trust the pastor. It might not be an easy situation if she insists on staying in your current church, and you want to leave. Just try to keep the discussion open, and point out your criticisms and concerns about your current church to her. Perhaps you're seeing things that she does not yet see.

Your wife is mistaken. For what purpose would He have her to stay? She will surely NOT change the pastor. His divorces and girlfriends is not the worse of the problems. But when he discounts any portion of the written Word of God, he is not fit to pastor or listen to.

Paul had something to say about that in Galatians 1:8-9

Tell your wife to compare what "voice" she is hearing to the written Word of God. He NEVER over rides His own Word.

Perhaps you and the pastor just have a difference in beliefs. Does the rest of the church feel the same way you do? If the Majority of the Church believes the same as the pastor on these subjects then maybe you should find a Church that believes like you do.

What do you do if you don't trust your pastor? Personally, I couldn't be part of a spiritual community if I didn't trust the leader. If you were single, I'd say go find another church. But you have your wife to consider. I'm assuming there's nothing urgent about switching churches, so why don't you just ride it out a bit more and see what happens? If nothing changes after a few months, or however long you can tolerate it, then I'd suggest discussing it with your wife and telling her how you feel.

Originally posted by Gerry
Your wife is mistaken. For what purpose would He have her to stay? She will surely NOT change the pastor. His divorces and girlfriends is not the worse of the problems. But when he discounts any portion of the written Word of God, he is not fit to pastor or listen to.

Paul had something to say about that in Galatians 1:8-9

Tell your wife to compare what "voice" she is hearing to the written Word of God. He NEVER over rides His own Word.

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Or more accuratly he is not the correct one to Pastor in one of YOUR Churches. If the church's doctrine fits with his then they are practising their beliefs and you don't have any right to say whether he is fit to Minister within the realm of his own beliefs.

Maybe your wife feels she needs to be there to protect others or be a voice of change?

Originally posted by nbkan67
Can someone point me to where I should post.

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I might be more prone to post specific questions regarding Christianity on the Christian Only threads.

I agree with Gerry (a fellow Christian brother) 100% on his counsel to you regarding your pastor and his mishandling of God's Word.

If one is not strong in the Lord the aplogetics threads can possibly confuse a Christian that is not firmly grounded and planted in God's Word, allowing
for spiritual discernment.

As Christians, we must be wise in who we seek our counsel from so as to not be deceived.

Gimme us a break for once please, Gunny. The opinions stated in this thread by non-Christians were compassionate and reasonable...nobody is trying to deceive this man who is obviously confused and hurting. We are not monsters.

It is the scripture that is what we are to go by? Matt. 4:4 This is the measuring stick so to speak. Isa.8:20-2 Tim. 3:16.

Then in todays setting we see Rev. 18:4, or do we???---P/N/B/

PS: your minister sounds like a good subject for conversion?

Originally posted by LadyShea
Gimme us a break for once please, Gunny. The opinions stated in this thread by non-Christians were compassionate and reasonable...nobody is trying to deceive this man who is obviously confused and hurting. We are not monsters.

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Ladyshea, It's not about being monsters. It's about a Christian seeking counsel concerning things of God.

As an atheist/humanist you deny and reject the existence of God. This is your free will to embark on this journey.

It is my contention that a Christian seeking counsel concerning matters concerning the Body of Christ is best served by obtaining that counsel from those that profess Jesus Christ, as Lord and Savior.

I do not believe that those that have been decieved intentionally decieve for they live in spiritual darkness.

Jesus stated He was the Light that brings mankind out of spiritual darkness.

Originally posted by nbkan67
1. Divorced 3 times

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I'd be very interested to hear what his attitude is regarding divorce.  The topic is addressed in the Bible.

2. Discounts books of the New Testament.

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HUGE RED FLAGS WAVING EVERYWHERE!!

No Christian should be 'discounting' books of the New Testament, let alone a pastor.

3. I don't trust his confidentiality.

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I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this, but if you get the impression he's not trustworthy or lacks integrity, that should be another red flag.

How do I keep going here with my wife, or should I?

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You're in quite a situation.  First of all, your wife is probably being misled.  God is not going to keep you under a pastor that thinks he can pick and choose what part of the Word he can follow...and teach, unless as another poster suggested He wants to use you two to change the direction of the church--which is entirely possible.

Bottom line, your pastor is a heretic.  The question then becomes, since you both are teaching the youth, are you following your pastor's teachings, or the Bible's?  Who does your pastor answer to?  Are there deacons?  A board of trustees?  Elders?  If so, talk to them about this ASAP and see where they stand.  If not, is the church affiliated with any denomination?  If so, contact one of the denomination's officers and let them know what is going on.  This pastor needs to be corrected or replaced.  The spiritual lives of those 100 regular attenders and members depends on it. 

As far as what to do with your wife, you are to be the spiritual leader of your family.  I know that's hard when you're playing 'catch up' to your wife--I've been there.  But if God truly is telling her to stick around, ask her why.  It may not be God talking to her.  If you cannot change the pastor, try to reach as many people as you can and leave the church.

You're missing one critical point Hasbeens, that of the denomination in question. If it is a Liberal Christian denomination then the pastor could very well be teaching exactly what the Church holds to, and so is not a heretic or in conflict with his Churches teachings. You cannot judge that pastores dealings in his own church unless you know the context

Originally posted by Havoc
You're missing one critical point Hasbeens, that of the denomination in question. If it is a Liberal Christian denomination then the pastor could very well be teaching exactly what the Church holds to, and so is not a heretic or in conflict with his Churches teachings. You cannot judge that pastores dealings in his own church unless you know the context

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You could be right, Havoc, but offhand I am not aware of any Christian denomination that 'discounts' portions of the Bible.  In my understanding, that is heretical to the Christian faith, not just a certain denomination.  That's why I suggested he go to the denomination officials to see if they agree with the pastor's teaching.  And if they do then the denomination has issues, which is why if that was the case, I urged nbkan67 to take his wife and as many as would follow him away from that church.