Originally posted by Quaffer
Did'nt you read it?
Matthew 27
31 And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.
If you knew the OT you would know where Jesus quoted from.
I've read the whole Bible and I read the whole Bible. The Bible is Christ's teaching.
Like I said, Ask a question regarding your supposed contradiction. . .one of us will answer it. 
Originally posted by spiritualscientist
Alright my mistake. But this does not prove Jesus lived an expensive lifestyle. There all indications in the bible that Jesus lived a simple life including what he preached. Jesus could not have preached water and drank wine. The soldiers could also have wanted a piece of a famous person ("King of the Jews") clothes as a souvenir not because the clothes were expensive.
I did not say Jesus lived an expensive lifestyle. He chose to live simply and I believe we should follow His example according to what God has called us to do. For what He was here to do, he did not need a house because He would have never been home. Until He started ministry at age 30 we don't really know how He lived. And, He knew it was only going to be for 3 years, not 50.
Jesus, nor His disciples were in "want" of anything. Twelve men, several, if not all with families and they were supported on the "offerings" that were in the bag that Judas was treasurer of.
Scripture tells us Judus was a thief because he "stole" from the bag. Why did they even need a treasurer if they had no money. A treasurer is not needed for barely enough to get by on. In that situation the purse would be empty more often than not. And it was most likely lower than it would have been if Judas had not been stealing from it.
Because no bus system runs in my area, I need a car. However, in New York City, I hear very few people own a car, because they don't need one. But in order for me to get to work, to pay my bills and buy food, I need to have a car. Mooching off other people is not acceptable, even in the Kingdom of Heaven.
If the soldiers had only wanted a souvineer, they would have torn the robe apart and sold it in pieces.
There are many contradictions one of them is what we are discussing here about wealth. I don't know why you are repeating the question. I said in the old testament the righteous were rewarded with material wealth which is an impediment to spirituality in the new testament. Once we are through with this discussion I will show you other contraditions.
And I believe you are incorrect in your assessment.
But are you trying to say the Bible is error free?
You remind me of an athiest who posted several pages of supposed contradictions. I took them one by one and proved him wrong. He told me that was my interpretation but then also refused to post the rest of the contradictions he had.
In answer to your question: I have not found an error yet!
Originally posted by Blackhawk
Sure but He did not need an expensive garment. To bring it to today we only need to get clothes from a thrift store or Kmart but we want to get them from Nordstroms or Neiman Marcus. But my point in saying that was that everything that He owned was only transitory. He used things for awhile and then did not need them any longer. Just like us. I have clothes that I wear but I only wear them for a ceratain amount of time then I get rid of them.
He most likely did not need it, but He still had it. We don't know if He purchased it at Lord & Taylor
He only needed transitory. His ministry was only going to be for 3 years.
If you keep getting rid of clothes then you have to keep buying clothes. If we are able to buy better quality then in the long run we spend less money because they don't wear as fast.
John 6:5-9
5 Therefore Jesus, lifting up His eyes and seeing that a large crowd was coming to Him, said to Philip, "Where are we to buy bread, so that these may eat?"
6 This He was saying to test him, for He Himself knew what He was intending to do.
7 Philip answered Him, "Two hundred denarii worth of bread is not sufficient for them, for everyone to receive a little."
8 One of His disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, said to Him,
9 "There is a lad here who has five barley loaves and two fish, but what are these for so many people?"
(NAU)
Jesus asked if they should go out and buy them food to test His disciple's faith. Phillip answered by saying that not even a ton of money that they clearly did not have would be able to buy them all even a little of food. If it happened today Phillip might of said "Not even a miilion $ worth of food is sufficent" But the point clearly is that Phillip was saying to Jesus that eve nthis huge amount of money that we would never have is enough for all these people. Jesus had other ideas on how He was going to feed them.
Maybe that's what Philip meant and maybe not. It's speculative either way.
No that is a cop out. No one NEEDS to have a BMW. No one needs to have a huge mansion. no one needs to have more money than they can ever spend. We only need a certain amount of food to survive. Also you only quoted part of the scriptureabout living on "Bread alone." Let's read the rest of it.
You do not know everyone's situation. You are not to judge another man's servant. I have no desire for a BMW, but if God were to give me one, I don't think I'd refuse it.
2 Cor 9:8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always have all sufficiency in all things , may abound to every good work:
Matt 4:3-4
3 And the tempter came and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread."
4 But He answered and said, "It is written, "MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD."'
(NAU)
I think that it is pretty self explanatory that you have used the scripture out of context.
I don't believe I've taken it out of context at all. We live by faith, according to the Word of God. Not our word, but His. I personally, need things that someone else does not need. And if God want's to work it out so I have something that's a want I'm not going to tell Him "no thanks"
I have a friend who I envited to the christmas banquet where I use to work. They were giving away free airline tickets and and my friend won round trip tickets to Germany.
She went home and discussed it with her husband and they decided they did not need them. They prayed and asked God to show them what to do with them.
The Lord brought to her remembrance a couple in our church who were from Germany. She called them and said, "Eric, do you need to go to Germany". He began to tell her, how his wife, Susan, was very ill and needed a particular medical procedure that no-one in the US would do. He said they were trying to find a way to Germany. My friend, said, "well, Eric, I have your tickets". He broke down and cried.
The Lord gave her excess, and she re-directed it, to where He told her. She was blessed, they were blessed, I was blessed. We serve an Awesome God.
And what about this time when Jesus sent out Hid disciples? Notice they did not take any riches or much material possesions at all.
Mark 6:7-12
7 And He summoned the twelve and began to send them out in pairs, and gave them authority over the unclean spirits;
8 and He instructed them that they should take nothing for {their} journey, except a mere staff-- no bread, no bag, no money in their belt--
9 but {to} wear sandals; and {He added} "Do not put on two tunics."
10 And He said to them, "Wherever you enter a house, stay there until you leave town.
11 "Any place that does not receive you or listen to you, as you go out from there, shake the dust off the soles of your feet for a testimony against them."
12 They went out and preached that {men} should repent.
(NAU)
And what about the other times where He told them different? Each situation is different. We're to operate according to how the Holy Spirit leads, each and every time.
Luke 22:35, 36 And He said to them, "When I sent you out without money belt and bag and sandals, you did not lack anything, did you?" They said, "No, nothing." And He said to them, "But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.
