A sense of utter confussion and almost disgust.....

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Well, at least he was informed first!

My cousin tells how he applied for a teaching position as was rejected because he was "too liberal." Decades later he applied again at the same place and was rejected again, but this time, it was because he was "too conservative"!


I can believe it.

I thought it was quite bizarre. Mind you, my cousin has matured over the years, but that much?!?
 
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You do realize I'm just using the numbers not the context, right?

"It is a solemn statement that I make to the church, that not one in twenty whose names are registered upon the church books are prepared to close their earthly history, and would be as verily without God and without hope in the world as the common sinner. They are professedly serving God, but they are more earnestly serving mammon." {GCB, July 1, 1900 par. 7}

It is a solemn statement that I make to the church, that not one in twenty whose names are registered upon the church books are prepared to close their earthly history, and would be as verily without God and without hope in the world as the common sinner. They are professedly serving God, but they are more earnestly serving mammon. This half-and-half work is a constant denying of Christ, rather than a confessing of Christ. So many have brought into the church their own unsubdued spirit, unrefined; their spiritual taste is perverted by their own immoral, debasing corruptions, symbolizing the world in spirit, in heart, in purpose, confirming themselves in lustful practices, and are full of deception through and through in their professed Christian life. Living as sinners, claiming to be Christians! Those who claim to be Christians and will confess Christ should come out from among them and touch not the unclean thing, and be separate. . . . {ChS 41.1}
I didn't. Thanks for the reference.

There is no statement that only '1 in 20' is ready then?
 
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I have found that there is great discord here from far left and far right. It creates a very unpleasant atmosphere. Would be so wonderful if we could see each other through our Savior's eyes and love as He loves - unconditionally. That means no matter what our theology, our particular milestone in our Christian journey, or any other of the myriad number of things that we look at as defining of value.

As for myself, I am fairly newly back to our fold and have discovered that I am a mostly a conservatively liberal Christian with some hints of radical overtones who believes that it is okay for folks to wear jeans or earrings to church even though I don't and that it is great to baptize folk who haven't won the victory over tobacco yet so that they have the connection to God and the Body of Christ to strengthen them on their journey.

A big hug to all of you from me.

PeacefulSDA

It is quite unfortunate that "others" here are NOT able to take the scales off thier eyes nor the logs out of them long enough to see with HIS eyes....

Lest they actually have some Come to Meet The Creator experience and are forced to KNOW what TRUE AGAPE IS....

They are content with thier ignorance rather than get thier hands dirty with the work of the Master....

Being in the trenches and in the frontline with the REAL struggle....

NOPE... that would put a wrinkle in thier precious white robes and would dent thier beautiful crowns.... For most definately they HAVE arrived to THIER heaven......

Thus they find it MOST nescessary to throw OUT every "other" living being that is not an exact replica of thier precious little band of clones....

For if one is not quoting SOP AND the 28 or whatever number we are on now AND the veganism or whatever other ism they are pushing next..... ONE MUST certainly be an infidel and an "claiming to be sda" heretic....

Yup.... much better to pass judgment than to actually give a hoot about another soul that ACTUALLY BELONGS to The Creator....

Like it or not.....

HE Made ALL and ALL BELONG to HIM... NO ONE can nor will change that....

Though they THINK to change it.....

So thank you PB for the vote of confidence in a fellow sojourner who is ONLY doing as HE comanded....

Spread the Good News...

The ransom HAS been PAID IN FULL....

We ARE FREE... walk IN the newness HE has made possible.....

No longer be chained and enslaved by this world and it's trappings...

And while you are relishing in said freedom...

Tell someone else about it....

Peace...
 
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The point in it isn't to look around and condemn your brothers and sisters in the church. Rather, it is to reevaulate your own life, to make sure that you aren't one of those who don't have Christ in your life. I can't coun the number of times I have seen people from the 'traditional' camp tell Night or whoever that they were doing the works of satan.

Among the fruits of the spirit are Love, Mercy, and Kindness, and I have seen a lack of them on this forum. And not only (or even mostly) from progressives. This is our best way to judge our own closeness to God.

JM
 
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The point in it isn't to look around and condemn your brothers and sisters in the church. Rather, it is to reevaulate your own life, to make sure that you aren't one of those who don't have Christ in your life. I can't coun the number of times I have seen people from the 'traditional' camp tell Night or whoever that they were doing the works of satan.

Among the fruits of the spirit are Love, Mercy, and Kindness, and I have seen a lack of them on this forum. And not only (or even mostly) from progressives. This is our best way to judge our own closeness to God.

JM
JM--I think there is a saying that says--'let peace begin with ME'.

Why not stop taking potshots at the traditionals and let peace begin with YOU?!
 
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Hmm, brand new person see's the nonsense around here and you treat her like that?!? Care to quess who did get reported?

Interesting observation...

I appreciate your honest concern....

I DO have "hope" in "sda".....

See MY issue is not with being sda or not...

MY concern is what SOME folk make of it...

My bible does NOT read the same way I suppose, since in mine HE is the Prince that RESCUES HIS bride... See HE paid the price she could NOT pay for herself and HE STILL set her free....

YUP, HE did...

The thing.... HIS TRUE bride CHOOSES HIM above ALL....

And IN HER HE is examplified...

So ALL who sees her not only sees HIM in her but they understand what she is worth to HIM and they TOO want to partake in the celebration for they realize that is NOT JUST for HER that HE came and paid and lived the example.....

But for ALL WHOSOEVER WOULD.....

Thing is, she is NOT boastful, nor full of pride.....

HIS TRUE BRIDE tell EVERYONE what HE has done and behooves them to ALSO CHOOSE HIM...

Some folk here are more like the vinegar of the earth than salt....

Again...

There IS hope IF we so choose....

Thank you for respecting ME, enough actually read my post WITHOUT JUDGEMENT nor looking for something to criticize......

JUST at face value....

More importantly you have not attempted to pirate my thread with some nonsensical banter of things that do NOT amount to the furtherance of spreading the good news...

Creator Blessings to you Sir....

Creator Blessings to us ALL......
 
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I suspect that folk that lurke at other folk threads ONLY to throll them ARE the main instigators....

But that is ONLY MY Opinion..... or maybe not......

I post here when I can bellanegra1--I'm not a "throll" - I assume you mean "troll" right?

And so what if I "lurke?" Is there a law that says I cannot? Wow, I was just trying to answer your post and you jump all over me. It really was an innocent post with no harm in mind to you or anyone else.
 
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I post here when I can bellanegra1--I'm not a "throll" - I assume you mean "troll" right?

And so what if I "lurke?" Is there a law that says I cannot? Wow, I was just trying to answer your post and you jump all over me. It really was an innocent post with no harm in mind to you or anyone else.

Rosie, you are welcome in this forum. Pay no attention to what was said to you.
 
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ALL have merit in every and anything they say...

IT IS after all is said and done EXACTLY how they FEEL.....

While you are parading on your high horse...

Real folk with real emotions and issues and concerns... and LIVES....

Are hurting BECAUSE of folk like you.....

Amen. Amen. Amen.
 
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It is quite unfortunate that "others" here are NOT able to take the scales off thier eyes nor the logs out of them long enough to see with HIS eyes....

Lest they actually have some Come to Meet The Creator experience and are forced to KNOW what TRUE AGAPE IS....

They are content with thier ignorance rather than get thier hands dirty with the work of the Master....

Being in the trenches and in the frontline with the REAL struggle....

NOPE... that would put a wrinkle in thier precious white robes and would dent thier beautiful crowns.... For most definately they HAVE arrived to THIER heaven......

Thus they find it MOST nescessary to throw OUT every "other" living being that is not an exact replica of thier precious little band of clones....

For if one is not quoting SOP AND the 28 or whatever number we are on now AND the veganism or whatever other ism they are pushing next..... ONE MUST certainly be an infidel and an "claiming to be sda" heretic....

Yup.... much better to pass judgment than to actually give a hoot about another soul that ACTUALLY BELONGS to The Creator....

Like it or not.....

HE Made ALL and ALL BELONG to HIM... NO ONE can nor will change that....

Though they THINK to change it.....

So thank you PB for the vote of confidence in a fellow sojourner who is ONLY doing as HE comanded....

Spread the Good News...

The ransom HAS been PAID IN FULL....

We ARE FREE... walk IN the newness HE has made possible.....

No longer be chained and enslaved by this world and it's trappings...

And while you are relishing in said freedom...

Tell someone else about it....

Peace...

one more click to count one more in whom the Kingdom of God is manifest.... i love you.
 
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JM--I think there is a saying that says--'let peace begin with ME'.

Why not stop taking potshots at the traditionals and let peace begin with YOU?!

I made no comment for weeks. And all I saw was that things got worse. So yes, I am at peace...

And desire the same for others.

I have not named names (except for Night). I have not said it was only 'traditional's.

JM
 
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Interesting observation...

I appreciate your honest concern....

I DO have "hope" in "sda".....

See MY issue is not with being sda or not...

MY concern is what SOME folk make of it...

My bible does NOT read the same way I suppose, since in mine HE is the Prince that RESCUES HIS bride... See HE paid the price she could NOT pay for herself and HE STILL set her free....

YUP, HE did...

The thing.... HIS TRUE bride CHOOSES HIM above ALL....

And IN HER HE is examplified...

So ALL who sees her not only sees HIM in her but they understand what she is worth to HIM and they TOO want to partake in the celebration for they realize that is NOT JUST for HER that HE came and paid and lived the example.....

But for ALL WHOSOEVER WOULD.....

Thing is, she is NOT boastful, nor full of pride.....

HIS TRUE BRIDE tell EVERYONE what HE has done and behooves them to ALSO CHOOSE HIM...

Some folk here are more like the vinegar of the earth than salt....

Again...

There IS hope IF we so choose....

Thank you for respecting ME, enough actually read my post WITHOUT JUDGEMENT nor looking for something to criticize......

JUST at face value....

More importantly you have not attempted to pirate my thread with some nonsensical banter of things that do NOT amount to the furtherance of spreading the good news...

Creator Blessings to you Sir....

Creator Blessings to us ALL......
God bless. I always appreciate those who are not willing to hem-haw around and call a spade a spade. I don't always agree with those who do, but at least they're not afraid to take a stand! Amen!
 
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For if one is not quoting SOP AND the 28 or whatever number we are on now AND the veganism or whatever other ism they are pushing next..... ONE MUST certainly be an infidel and an "claiming to be sda" heretic....
Sis, what you may not know about me is that I do quote EGW, I do believe in the 28 fundamentals and I happen to have embraced the plant-based life style, aka veganism, but I don't look at my fellow brothers and sisters through any judgemental template because of it. The key ingredients to being a Christian, to being a part of the Body of Christ, is to know Him and to look at each other through His eyes. Guess I've said that before, but I believe it strongly.

I remember part of a song we used to sing in the 60's: And they'll know we are Christians by our love...
 
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Sis, what you may not know about me is that I do quote EGW, I do believe in the 28 fundamentals and I happen to have embraced the plant-based life style, aka veganism, but I don't look at my fellow brothers and sisters through any judgemental template because of it. The key ingredients to being a Christian, to being a part of the Body of Christ, is to know Him and to look at each other through His eyes. Guess I've said that before, but I believe it strongly.

I remember part of a song we used to sing in the 60's: And they'll know we are Christians by our love...

PB, MY Point is a simple one really....

We are NEVER to use ANY part of scripture or any other "valid" writtings as a badge NOR a punishing rod....

Sooooo, my piont STILL stands.....

YOU happen to be able to rightly divide these.....

HE did NOT leave us any DIVIDING words, moreover what HE DID do was set an example to FIND common ground and BUILD on such...

I will never be the one to be quoted as being against ANYTHING sda...

I CAN be quoted as being against DIVISION.....

There are NO SECTIONS and or PARTS of "HEAVEN" reserved for any "special" denomination and or person....

It is HIGH time we GET OVER IT.....

ALL WHOSOEVER...... THEY WILL make it....

All who do not like it, need to start having some special conversations with the The Creator....

Last time I read, HE was NOT taking any suggestions about how to rule and nor carry out HIS plan....

Like it or not.... HE has ALREADY paid the ransom... too late now to exclude anyone... HE DID NOT....

HE made no special conditions when HE paid the ransom......

HE asked NO persmissions nor is HE waiting on any.....

Waste all the time you like in your petty arguments about things that have NOTHING to do with HIS plan...

Those truly interested in laboring for HIM, those who have volunteered for the HARVEST.... THOSE WILL be recieved fully by HIM.....

They labor NOT for the reward... but for the joy found in pleasing HIM...

In knowing that they HAVE carryout HIS mission according to HIS plan....

THEY WILL hear, "Well done, my GOOD and FAITHFUL SERVANT".....

Oh, by the way..... they will NOT say... nanananana.... for they too wish that NONE shall perish.....

Choose your side wisely.... IF you MUST....

With THIS ONE... there is ONLY ONE....

HIS......

Creator Blessings
 
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Bellanegra, even though everything you are posting here is getting reported as we speak, I appreciate your comments.

Thank you. You speak the truth sister. I'm just glad I had a chance to read it before it gets edited. :thumbsup:

With THIS ONE.... It is NOT a popularity contest.....

I can ONLY do as I KNOW to...

We ALL have what it takes to make a stand.....

The blood HE paid our ransom with.....

Soon enough we will have to face HIM and answer for the things we have FAILED to do....

I have choosen to do what I can at every opportunity...

It is NOT about being perfect and or blameless..... HIS blood and righteousness covers that part....

As I know HIM more and more and surrender to HIM more and more.... The things of this world have less and less importance.....

To KNOW HIM IS to LOVE HIM and those... ALL OF THOSE HE CREATED.....

Whatsoever "I" have done to the least of these......

Yup, I appreciate the vote of confidence.... However, it would be best spent sharing the good news with one who has not heard it yet....

Creator Blessings
 
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