Jesus didn't quote from "Catholic" books

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AngelAmidala

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Here's a serious question for you. :)

I have this workbook for an intense Bible Study through my church. It's called the Disciple Bible study. And as far as I know, it's mostly done in United Methodist Churches.

In the introduction it says that the recommended Bible to use is the New Oxford Annotated Bible with the Apocrypha.

I was just kind of wondering why a UMC Bible study would recommend that particular Bible to use if the study itself doesn't plan to explore those specific books (Maccabees, Sirach, Wisdom, etc.).

Thanks! :)
 
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That particular version is the Revised Standard Version, which is one of the more accurate English versions, language-wise, even though the flow of the prose is shade stilted, IMHO. They may have chosen it for the accuracy of the translation. In addition, the Oxford Annotated has some excellent notes, since it's a study Bible.

Jesus oftentimes referred to quotes from the "wisdom" books of the Deuterocanon (Sirach, Wisdom), so maybe they simply want to touch on that. Not being UMC myself, I can't really say. :)

The Oxford Annotated is an excellent resource, BTW, but it's not exactly cheap. I priced them last Christmas, and they run in excess of $30.00 in paperback all they way up to $150.00 in leather cover with gilt edges. :)
 
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/me sings softly....

My bologna has a first name.
It's O-S-C-A-R.
My bologna has a second name.
It's M-A-Y-E-R.
Oh I love to eat it every day,
and if you ask me why I'll saaaaayyyy...
'Cause Oscar Mayer has a way
with B-O-L-O-G-N-A.



:)
 
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Originally posted by Wolseley
That particular version is the Revised Standard Version, which is one of the more accurate English versions, language-wise, even though the flow of the prose is shade stilted, IMHO. They may have chosen it for the accuracy of the translation. In addition, the Oxford Annotated has some excellent notes, since it's a study Bible.

Jesus oftentimes referred to quotes from the "wisdom" books of the Deuterocanon (Sirach, Wisdom), so maybe they simply want to touch on that. Not being UMC myself, I can't really say. :)

The Oxford Annotated is an excellent resource, BTW, but it's not exactly cheap. I priced them last Christmas, and they run in excess of $30.00 in paperback all they way up to $150.00 in leather cover with gilt edges. :)

Ahhh.....I see.  I have a copy of it...I forget how much I bought it for...I think around $30, but it was through school for a class so I'm sure it was some student discount or something.  I thought it was a good Bible too...

Thanks Wols!!  :)
 
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Wolseley

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My bologna has a first name.
It's O-S-C-A-R.
My bologna has a second name.
It's M-A-Y-E-R.
Oh I love to eat it every day,
and if you ask me why I'll saaaaayyyy...
'Cause Oscar Mayer has a way
with B-O-L-O-G-N-A.
I made up a variant of that one when I was in college:

This subject has a first name,
A-L-G-E-B-R-A;
This subject has a second name,
It is M-A-T-H;
Oh, I hate to do this every day
And if you ask me why I'll say
That college teachers have a way
With B-O-L-O-G-N-A!

Howzzat? :)
 
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Originally posted by BaMerz
Dear Brother Elnaam, have you looked down and noticed that your feet are quite dusty?  Your word is not being accepted here.  Dust your feet. :(

Praise Him forever, for He ALONE is worthy to be praised.
Great advise--thanks Barb will do--and be blessed! :hug:
 
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So, "apocrypha" and "Catholic books of the Bible" are the same thing? I'm CONFUSED!

I just picked up a "New Oxford Annotated Bible", NRSV, 3rd edition, which says it's "with apocrypha". Does that mean I have all the cool stuff now?
 
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Yes, it has the deutero-Canon in it, seebs. What a Catholic will call the deutero-Canon, a Protestant will call the Apochrypha. It depends on who published the Bible what name the books in question will be called.

I had that Bible, but I gave it to a Mormon who paid me a visit. The Wisdom of Solomon is beautiful. I think it has the books listed as either being in the Catholic Canon, Protestant Canon, or sometimes in the Orthodox Canon.  I don't remember where the listing is, though.

God Bless,

Neal
 
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I just thought I'd jump in here :)

I happened to have a copy of the New Oxford Annotated Bible.  Personally I don't like some of the footnotes.  They're written from a liberal perspective.  I don't know why any conservative evangelical would rely on the footnotes.

 

In anycase, this particular Bible has the seven deuterocanonicals.  But it also contains some other 'apocryphal' stuff, like 1 & 2 Esdras, 3 & 4 Maccabees, Psalm 151, Prayer of Mannaseh.  Those books are not considered canonical scripture in the Church.

But for some reason they're in that particular translation of the Bible.

 

Also, James Akin has a GREAT article on the deuterocanonicals:

http://www.cin.org/users/james/files/deuteros.htm

God bless!

-Jason
 
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Originally posted by seebs
Could you give a concrete example of the "liberal" perspective?
Hmmmm. Always felt the liberal perspective was far from 'concrete'. :D

I am never sure whether I'm a liberal or a conservative; sometimes one, sometimes the other.
Most REAL Christians are. :holy: Since they are actually 'political' terms, it only makes for confusion. :scratch:

Kotton :rolleyes:
 
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Hi Seebs,

Liberal Christians have a many extremes within Liberal Christianity :)

Some extreme liberals stray from the fundamental doctrines of Christianity.  Here's what I mean:  They don't believe Jesus is the only way to the Father.  They attach Jesus and something else.  These are the groups who ordain gay pastors and such.  You might as well say that they're not Christian at all

Some moderate liberals generally teach that Jesus is the only way, but they also stray from some other fundamental doctrines like the trinity, or a literal 6 day creation.  Some even say that the Adam and Eve story is a complete myth.  They also don't agree with inerrancy of Scripture.  But they still hold on to salvation by grace. 

There's many other liberals who hold a mix between the two, some of them can be considered evangelical.  By the way, I'm referring to protestant liberals and conservatives.  :)

Based on what I remember, the New Oxford Annotated bible regards several stories as myths.  The commentaries and foot notes on the Bible are entirely on a historical perspective.  It's useful for studying the Bible on an intellectual level, but there's nothing on application, or anything like that.  It's purely an 'intellectual' study bible.  There may be tons of good historical stuff, but personally I don't like it, since I use other Study bibles which are more applicable.  The only reason I still have it is for the deuterocanonicals :)

Hope that helps!

-Jason
 
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