These boards are no longer the CF boards??

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Perhaps Erwin is planning on merging with Belief.net? It seems to me (from what little I remember of BN) that there is no longer much difference, except here the forums are better.

OTOH, trying to join some of the other Christian forums would be next to impossible because many of them have statements of faith which would probably not align with EO.

Check out http://conservative-christian-forums.com//YaBB.pl
It was started by some people who left CF right after the changes started happening. There is an Orthodox subforum, as well as some interdenominational fellowship areas.
 
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Why do you insist on the Ottoman?

There is a large section in Asia minor today that has nothing to hold on to but the triumphant, glorious days of the past. They have no hope of a glorious nation anymore, everything Ottoman way was/is better, these guys would study sultans, learn the law of the land to the tiny details, and listen to Mehteran (the Ottoman Army band) to motivate themselves. They are not happy with the Turkish Republic who is a puppet to the Great Satan and others in the West and a NATO union. There is much more into this passion, that is just the surface...

They tried to bash this into my head in HS but I wasn't into that at all. What you read in elementary towards college in history is completely biased! Always considered the other side of the medallion, that, it is a different picture... Of course, anything against Christ Jesus' message would be from the devil, and that in its nature is evil.

Oh that is Mehmed II, drawn by an Italian. We were taught to be proud of his genius that lead the fleet over the land, crossing the chains during the siege of Constantinople, history tells that it was a Byzantine gave him the idea... go figure... Though there have been always turks converted to Orthodoxy during the Ottoman reign, some became saints of course, since they would NOT renounce their faith...
 
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L:DL, love the insertion of dots as per the new name of this forum.

Well, since I'm not a Christian, any definition of "Christian" based on what's true dogma is irrelevant to me, as is the term "true Christian". For me, the only sensible use of the word would be to refer to any religious group claiming to be primarily based on the teachings of Jesus. If they are non-Nicene, I'd just refer to them as unorthodox Christians.
I know you would never refer to yourself as a Christian. My point is that, apparently here in foru.ms, the thinking is that if one claims to be a Christian, no one should say they are not, even if they are... muslim or something, because this would be judging. My point was simply that this sight has fallen into such silly relativism (and I am NOT referring to the na.me) that now Christian can mean ANYTHING... which in turn means that nothing means anything now.

It's like if I told you, I'm a follower of Islam because I submit to God. And you would be like "But you follow Christ's teachings and believe He was divine and you ignore Mohammed. You can't be a Muslim" but I say to you, "hey, don't judge me, a Muslim is one who submits per the name and I do that". I imagine after a while you would just have to give up and roll your eyes since i just keep proclaiming such absurdities. Now, imagine a Muslim (or you might say "Muslim") from your local Mosque started a forum with the ridiculous premise that what a Muslim is should not be defined in any clear way and then ads on the enigmatic statement of "and Muslims should reach out to non-Muslims"... but then how do you "reach out" to anyone if it is apparently judgemental to say that someone isn't a Muslim because their beliefs are off? Do you see the absurdity of it all?

John
 
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Well, well, well........the FAITH section has now been moved to the top of the FORU.MS homepage!!!!!!!!!!

I guess all of the griping and complaining did something, huh?
You can ignore the pain but it's real hard to ignore that big monkey attached to your back... LOL
 
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Well, well, well........the FAITH section has now been moved to the top of the FORU.MS homepage!!!!!!!!!!

I guess all of the griping and complaining did something, huh?
Cool! :D
 
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My guess is no, or will be soon. Our good Emperor is being attacked in his moderator application thread for his comments regarding Mormon heretics. At least one antagonist is claiming the 'new' vision of CF is to disallow orthodox Christian thought.
What's the link to that thread? I'm blind and can't find it...
 
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Actually it's Mehmed II. Who was far from as universally evil as Christians tend to portray him as. He's mainly known for the conquest of Constantinople, but was generally a very progressive ruler. Take a look at this, from wikipedia.
If you'll pardon the comparison, that would be tantamount to making Adolf Hitler your avatar on a Jewish forum. The man sacked one of our greatest historical centers - he viciously persecuted our faith and way of life. He's offensive (and I don't mean this to be offensive to you - I'm fine with you posting here - but you have to understand how offensive it is to us).

I mean, Hitler was considered progressive for his day as well (he was at the cutting edge of genetics, bureaucratic efficiency, and military technology / strategy).

That doesn't mean he isn't deeply offensive to Jews (among others).
 
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Normally, I would invoke godwin, but in this case, it actually fits.

For those that don't know the law of godwin, back in the 80's you could tell a thread was dead when someone mentioned Hitler or Nazis in a thread.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me the sinner.
 
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If you'll pardon the comparison, that would be tantamount to making Adolf Hitler your avatar on a Jewish forum. The man sacked one of our greatest historical centers - he viciously persecuted our faith and way of life. He's offensive (and I don't mean this to be offensive to you - I'm fine with you posting here - but you have to understand how offensive it is to us).

I mean, Hitler was considered progressive for his day as well (he was at the cutting edge of genetics, bureaucratic efficiency, and military technology / strategy).

That doesn't mean he isn't deeply offensive to Jews (among others).

Pardon me, but what is this vicious persecution you mention? Conquering the Hagia Sophia was one thing, but other than that, as far as I know, he kept the Byzantine church very much intact, even replacing the patriarch who had sold out to Rome to save the empire, in a way saving the patriarchate from itself. As for the sack of Constantinople, promising three days of plunder was a military necessity to motivate troops - assault in a siege is a very dangerous business. He even stopped the sack after one day when seeing the destruction it caused.
 
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My guess is no, or will be soon. Our good Emperor is being attacked in his moderator application thread for his comments regarding Mormon heretics. At least one antagonist is claiming the 'new' vision of CF is to disallow orthodox Christian thought.
That really gets me to no end. The application almost (if it hasn't already) has gone from me trying to be voted a mod of Theology, to a debate about Mormon theology and how it is not Christian by, what is now considered, Nicaean thought/standards/beliefs.
 
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Pardon me, but what is this vicious persecution you mention? Conquering the Hagia Sophia was one thing, but other than that, as far as I know, he kept the Byzantine church very much intact, even replacing the patriarch who had sold out to Rome to save the empire, in a way saving the patriarchate from itself. As for the sack of Constantinople, promising three days of plunder was a military necessity to motivate troops - assault in a siege is a very dangerous business. He even stopped the sack after one day when seeing the destruction it caused.
-Taxing the title of patriarch
-Replacing patriarchs in order to gain money from the title tax
-Moving the patriarchate to the Red Light District

Also what is great to note is the legacy that the Ottoman and Turkish governments have in terms of treating the Orthodox Church.

Shame I say, shame.
 
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