Christian Rock - Evil?

mjona3 said:

I don't think the skill of the musicians matter, more the heart that they (And you, as a listener, you are also part of the worship) enter it with.

JM

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Telaquapacky said:

I'll bet if you played Del Delker or King's Heralds at 100dB to a box of rats they'd be at one another's throats too!

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Telaquapacky said:

Another comment about the rat study. What? Rats are so spiritual they can tell us what kind of music to use in church? Rats have good taste in music?

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NightEternal said:

This one by Michael W. Smith is a real tear jerker. It's about Cassie Bernall, the Christian girl who was shot at Columbine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnunUYtokfo

Sooooooooo sad.

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NightEternal said:

Classical seems to be taking it on the chin here. I love choral pieces. Mozart's Requiem is a masterpiece, period!

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NightEternal said:

Classical seems to be taking it on the chin here. I love choral pieces. Mozart's Requiem is a masterpiece, period!

Bach, Beethoven, Berlioz and Hayden have some wonderful masses that would qualify as the soundtrack to the apocalypse.

Medieval classical music? Awesome! Hildegard Von Bingen, Palestrina, Allegri, all great for meditation and relaxation.

I also love Sarah Brightman, although her music is more pop opera.

I saw her perform inThe Phantom Of The Opera and she was unbelievable.

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mjona3 said:

I don't think the skill of the musicians matter, more the heart that they (And you, as a listener, you are also part of the worship) enter it with.

JM

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happywiththelord said:

i went to a seminar lately on this very subject.

they had said that a study was done using rats and music only. they decided not to use lyrics because we all know that listening to good words is uplifting, but listening to hate talk so to speak is negative. Thats a given ok. so they only used music.

they had 3 sets of rats. one set had no music, one set only played classical type music, and the other set was played music with which was in 4/4 time with the emphasis on the 2 and 4th beats (which most music today is)

after the set amount of time, the observations made on the rats where interesting.

the set with no music, obviously showed no change.
the set that had classical type music showed no change in behavior.
But...the rats that had the music played with the emphasis on the 2nd and 4th beats fought with eachother constantly, they were aggitated, and some even turned to cannibalism!

The researchers decided to to investigate further so they (unfortunatly) disected the rats brains to find out why.

what they found was the first two set of rats, there brains were normal.
but the other set of rats (the ones who were angry etc,.) they had actually something wrong with there brains. the music had changed something with there brains. i wish i could remember what it was exactly, but it actually changed the physical nature of the brain. i think it had to do with the pathways used in the transfer of informations between things in the brain. the pathway should be staight, but these rats had majorly crooked and all messed up pathways.

So with that being said, i am on the fence now with the music i listen to. i am studying the issue more, so i can make an educated ruling one way or the other. but so far, the evidence is showing not good in favor of some music.

with that being said, let it be known that i REALLY enjoy music! I love contemporary christian music! so i am not just jumping into something. this study on music has the potential to be life changing since this is the type of music i listen to!!

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freeindeed said:

I've had this discussion a thousand times.

Here's the deal. The argument from the far right excludes ALL forms of music from the rest of the world. Basically, music they don't like is referred to as 'debased' and attributed to 'devil-worship'. Their preference has become the center of the music 'universe'. Unfortunately this discrimination and bias made its way into the 27 Fundies book, written from an ultra-conservative western position. I've travelled the world, and listened to the music, even in Adventism. Apparently they didn't get the memo, but their music is beautifully diverse from ours here.

Why so much fear about worshiping God in diverse ways using all of the sounds from all his people across the world. By what authority do westerners and people like Sam B. write off the vast array of forms of music in our world? Again, it's the "We're right, and everyone else is wrong!" mentality!

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