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What many don't seem to get is, at least in theory this was a Christian site with some areas open to ALL...

It appears to be becoming a Secular Site with the possibility of a few safe havens for Christians...

The direction has changed and a new course is plotted... the flawed matrix was set in place on 7/7/7 and the name change is a manifestation of the new matrix... the so called *christian* principles that Erwin speaks about deal with *how* the site will function as he sees it... they are NOT the foundation upon which this site will be built... He has removed any semblances of the Christian foundation in favor of his new matrix...

I believe the new matrix is fatally flawed in that it assumes non-Christians can and will be guided by Christian principles...

:prayer: :prayer: :prayer: Erwin comes to his Christian senses...

Ty
Amen.. Show me anywhere on this site that makes the claim it is a Christian site
 
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Rather depends whether you intended to buy me the chocolate when you said so, and why you didn't actually do so in the end.

When I was a child, I swore I'd never get married. If I actually marry, does that make me a liar? Or does it just mean that when I was younger I honestly believed something, and later changed my mind?
that is called lying and misleading yourself.

when a person has as much power over some thing as Erwin does, that person needs to think twice before doing something, and giving a good reason for doing it differently.

And i would not be surprised that he actually intended to do what he has done from the very beggining
 
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We do not need to argue, there are so many that are dissatisfied that what we need is to hear Erwin and then make a decision and leave as a group to another site along with our financial support, this will speak louder than any argument on here.
 
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That is as it should be. Athanasian Christians can retreat to their congregational bunkers if they cannot weather richly deserved criticisms of their absurd Christology.

Personally I have no problem weathering the drivel spewed by errorists...

The question is whether one should have to continue to do so on a Christian site... If I want to engage Universal drivel I know plenty of places to go to find it...;)
 
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What many don't seem to get is, at least in theory this was a Christian site with some areas open to ALL...

It appears to be becoming a Secular Site with the possibility of a few safe havens for Christians...

The direction has changed and a new course is plotted... the flawed matrix was set in place on 7/7/7 and the name change is a manifestation of the new matrix... the so called *christian* principles that Erwin speaks about deal with *how* the site will function as he sees it... they are NOT the foundation upon which this site will be built... He has removed any semblances of the Christian foundation in favor of his new matrix...

I believe the new matrix is fatally flawed in that it assumes non-Christians can and will be guided by Christian principles...

:prayer: :prayer: :prayer: Erwin comes to his Christian senses...

Ty
:amen:
 
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That is as it should be. Athanasian Christians can retreat to their congregational bunkers if they cannot weather richly deserved criticisms of their absurd Christology.
You may wanna do some historical checks on Christianity - there's a reason the churches had to resort to making CREEDS.

HERETICS CREPT IN and threatened the truth that the earliest churches adhered to from scripture.
Paul knew it would happen clear back in Acts when he left for his first missionary journeys.

Act 20:28 "Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

Act 20:29 "I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock;

Act 20:30 and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them.
And it's no different today - people from INSIDE the church were the wolves who brought those false teachings. SAME agenda, new era. (nothing's new under the sun kids).

2Pe 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.

2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;

2Pe 2:3 and in {their} greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
 
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What many don't seem to get is, at least in theory this was a Christian site with some areas open to ALL...

But what made it a Christian site? The name? The way the rules were set? The personal beliefs of the mods?

Or was it the Christian members of the site?
 
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Your 'peace and unity' came at the cost of consigning other Christians to a ghetto. I do not harangue Athanasian Christians in their congregational fora but I enjoy participating in the theology fora and I would not support regressing to the ghettos of yore.
OTHER CHISTIANS? ahem...

this was CHRISTIAN site, not OTHER CHISTIAN or DENOMINATIONAL or whatever. Just Christian! We have one God, the talk about OTHERS is unacceptible by God, I dont call my sister OTHER , just because she is not me, and she has some different views
 
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You dont believe in God, you have your way here at the board now that Erwin changed it for you.

Actually, it was largely conservative Christians who didn't like the 777 changes who argued for a name change. I didn't, nor do I care one way or the other.

What i find hypocritical about you is the stink you would most likely raise if the owner of an atheist site suddenly got saved and changed it to a christian site after YOU put YOUR money into it. (Waiting for your denial)


Ah, so I'm a hypocrite because you think you know how I'd react in a situtation that hasn't actually occurred, and if I deny it you'll ignore it. Speaks for itself, really.
 
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OTHER CHISTIANS? ahem...

this was CHRISTIAN site, not OTHER CHISTIAN or DENOMINATIONAL or whatever. Just Christian! We have one God, the talk about OTHERS is unacceptible by God, I dont call my sister OTHER , just because she is not me, and she has some different views
Amen
 
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Personally I have no problem weathering the drivel spewed by errorists [sic]...

Come on down to Christian Apologetics, then.

The question is whether one should have to continue to do so on a Christian site...

On an Athanasian Christian site? No. On a Christian site? Yes.
If I want to engage Universal drivel I know plenty of places to go to find it...

I am not familiar with 'Universal drivel.'
 
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Actually, it was largely conservative Christians who didn't like the 777 changes who argued for a name change. I didn't, nor do I care one way or the other.




Ah, so I'm a hypocrite because you think you know how I'd react in a situtation that hasn't actually occurred, and if I deny it you'll ignore it. Speaks for itself, really.
knew the denial was forthcoming too didnt i? ;)
 
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We do not need to argue, there are so many that are dissatisfied that what we need is to hear Erwin and then make a decision and leave as a group to another site along with our financial support, this will speak louder than any argument on here.

All Site Supporters please vote here...

http://foru.ms/t5941106

Thanks,

Ty
 
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that is called lying and misleading yourself.

Ah, but when I was a child I firmly believed I wouldn't marry. How can it be lying if I believed it?

when a person has as much power over some thing as Erwin does, that person needs to think twice before doing something, and giving a good reason for doing it differently.

Won't disagree on that point. Erwin should do more to defend his position.
 
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But what made it a Christian site? The name? The way the rules were set? The personal beliefs of the mods?

Or was it the Christian members of the site?
when it was just MADE... the rules and beliefes of the site itself MADE it christian, after that, chistians where holding it up and growing up together.

If this site was like it is now from the beginning, it would not be a christian site, it would be a theoretical debate site with chistians in it (maybe not even)
 
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You may wanna do some historical checks on Christianity - there's a reason the churches had to resort to making CREEDS.

HERETICS CREPT IN and threatened the truth that the earliest churches adhered to from scripture.
Paul knew it would happen clear back in Acts when he left for his first missionary journeys.

Act 20:28 "Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.

Act 20:29 "I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock;

Act 20:30 and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them.
And it's no different today - people from INSIDE the church were the wolves who brought those false teachings. SAME agenda, new era. (nothing's new under the sun kids).

2Pe 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.

2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;

2Pe 2:3 and in {their} greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

Jesus said, "Whom do men say that I am?"

And his disciples answered and said, "Some say you are John the Baptist returned from the dead; others say Elias, or other of the old prophets."

And Jesus answered and said, "But whom do you say that I am?"

Peter answered and said, "Thou art the Logos, existing in the Father as His rationality and then, by an act of His will, being generated, in consideration of the various functions by which God is related to his creation, but only on the fact that Scripture speaks of a Father, and a Son, and a Holy Spirit, each member of the Trinity being coequal with every other member, and each acting inseparably with and interpenetrating every other member, with only a voluntary subordination within God, but causing no division which would make the substance no longer simple."

And Jesus answering, said, "What?"
 
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All Site Supporters please vote here...

http://foru.ms/t5941106

Thanks,

Ty
Thank you, I did vote and it appears that many site supporters will be pulling their support if Erwin doesnt change it back but I already knew that just from what I have read
 
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