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i will tell you what has changed, people in here, since 777 more than half of my friends left... and there is no longer a feeling of home and warmth when i enter this site.

And that is, yet again, massive over-reaction to relatively harmless changes. Over and over again we've pointed out that it's not the name, or the way in which the rules are written, or the choice of moderators which makes a forum what it is. It is the people. And when the 777 changes took place, the people here could have made of this place whatever they wished. But some people couldn't live with that. Some weren't even willing to try. To them, the minutae were more important than the heart of the forum; they lost sight of what was truly important and bickered like children about matters of no importance. Some even left rather than try to make things work.

It is not the changes which have most affected this place. It is the inability of some to respond to those changes as reasonable, mature, decent human beings.
 
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What makes you think that Erwin is lying?

And that's YOUR vision of a Christian site, not God's vision. You're not God.
i have not said my vision, or anyone elses. I just point out the simple things that God would not put in place.

and IMO Erwin is lying, cos he said to all of us that the site will have changes to suit the vision he had from God. But the vision is not from God, as it involves wrong things.

I have trusted too many people, including Erwin, but to my disappointment, they lie, not one had told the truth. People tend to lie, so if you trust Erwins word, be prepared to be disappointed
 
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You can't see through lies so easily? Just look at my signature!
To be honest, you have no idea what a lie is, so I'll give you a definition:

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lie2 (lī)
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n.
  1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
  2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.

As you can see, a mistake can't be called a lie, because that's not what the word means. Erwin thought he wouldn't change his mind when it comes to some things on this website, but he was mistaken.

Are you trying to say that if I believe that Jesus was the offspring between one of many gods in this universe and one of his wives, and that if we are good and believe that, we can also be a god and rule our own planet, then I am a Christian?

I think not.

It depends on if you'd consider yourself a follower of Christ.
 
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You don't get it which is understandable.

Look, he's opened up the "faith" (formerly CHRISTIAN) section to atheists and any other skeptic that cares to go in there and attack/challenge people's faith, worldview, beliefs and opinions AS Christians.
I've already had some lovely run-in's where an atheist told me to stop my religious babble (to keep religion out of the issue).
WHAT'S THE POINT THEN IN A SUPPOSEDLY CHRISTIAN AREA while debating a Christian!?? :doh: :scratch:

He didn't have to do that. He's compounded the harm by opening up Christians to outside attacks within their own community.
IF CHRISTIANS WANTED TO BE CHALLENGED, THEY COULD HEAD OVER TO THE NONCHRISTIAN AREA TO DEBATE & DISCUSS.
He completely wiped out the ability to just have some peace & enjoyment in their own little cubbyhole!

Further, he had wiped out any semblance of ORDER and UNITY by cancelling the Preamble which at the VERY least was at least a small shred of what UNIFIED any Christians here.
That Nicene Creed wasn't the best agreement, BUT IT AT LEAST WAS ONE, that attempted to somewhat clarify what CF recognized could qualify as a "Christian".

HE TOOK OUT A TRINITY/CHRIST'S DEITY - that you must repent, that Jesus died for sin and rose again, and then calls it "CHRISTIAN"??? :doh:
He's just opened the Christian section up to full blown heretics who come in professing that the Trinity is a false heresy & they're Christians ---
AND THAT'S NOT A VIOLATION anymore.

He's removed any definition of a Christian to open it up to anyone's claims & beliefs & calls that the "faith" section... expecting to have a healthy group of Christians TO WITNESS TO THE LOST??? (duh).
Witness what?? confusion??

If you disagree with me, I don't personally care - I know where I stand biblically. It's a sign of the times God foretold:
IT'S CALLED UNIVERSALISM - ONE WORLD RELIGION - THE MELTING POT OF ANY & ALL FAITHS (excluding Christians who are 'exclusivistic' of course!) TO BE ONE BIG SPIRITUAL FAMILY. :sick:
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Jhn 10:1 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbs up some other way, he is a thief and a robber.
Jhn 10:2 "But he who enters by the door is a shepherd of the sheep.
Jhn 10:3 "To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
Jhn 10:4 "When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice.
Jhn 10:5 "A stranger they simply will not follow, but will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers."


Jhn 10:26 "But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep.
Jhn 10:27 "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;
I like your answer better than mine
 
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i have not said my vision, or anyone elses. I just point out the simple things that God would not put in place.

and IMO Erwin is lying, cos he said to all of us that the site will have changes to suit the vision he had from God. But the vision is not from God, as it involves wrong things.

I have trusted too many people, including Erwin, but to my disappointment, they lie, not one had told the truth. People tend to lie, so if you trust Erwins word, be prepared to be disappointed
How can you be so sure that you know what God wants from this website?
 
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Look, he's opened up the "faith" (formerly CHRISTIAN) section to atheists and any other skeptic that cares to go in there and attack/challenge people's faith, worldview, beliefs and opinions AS Christians.

And yet again, forum specific rules can prevent that. If you want a safe haven, make one. It's in your hands; that's what the rules system introduced on 777 means. Posting over and over about things you don't like achieves nothing. You can have the safe haven you desire, but only if you act to make it happen.
 
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She doesn't THINK he is lying, she KNOWS it. Just look at my signature.

Erwin has been stringing us along on his scam for quite a while now, and collecting many member's money while he's at it. I'm pretty sure there's something in the Bible about lying, bearing false witness and theft/extortion...
thank you breetai
 
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And that is, yet again, massive over-reaction to relatively harmless changes. Over and over again we've pointed out that it's not the name, or the way in which the rules are written, or the choice of moderators which makes a forum what it is. It is the people. And when the 777 changes took place, the people here could have made of this place whatever they wished. But some people couldn't live with that. Some weren't even willing to try. To them, the minutae were more important than the heart of the forum; they lost sight of what was truly important and bickered like children about matters of no importance. Some even left rather than try to make things work.

It is not the changes which have most affected this place. It is the inability of some to respond to those changes as reasonable, mature, decent human beings.
you will never understand the frustration, as you are not a christian. So my argument will end here with you.
 
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How can you be so sure that you know what God wants from this website?
you read whant you want to read dont you?

i havent said what God wants form this site.

I will say more clearly - GOD WILL NOT SAY TO A PERSON TO GO AND JUMP OF THE ROOF, and I know that it would not be God who said that. Same here, i know God would not put something like this in someones heart
 
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It's still a Christian site, just like Erwin stated in the announcement.

Since 7/7/7 redifined *christian* as anything the person claiming to be a Christian says it is...

So now Erwin can do whatever he wants with the site and still *say* it's Christian...:scratch: :scratch: :scratch:

I don't see it... It appears Erwin always intended to lead the site in this direction regardless of what the *majority* thinks or feels... It's his site... he can do it if he chooses to...

I choose to express my disappointment and withdraw any future financial support here under the current matrix... I think/believe the new system is profoundly flawed and will fail miserably...

I believe I was lead here a year ago and have many friends here so I will stay for now... but I only participate at ONE forum and I'll be honest... we're I searching for a new forum now... I would NOT be attracted to the name *Foru.ms* Forum based social networking for you... I would never *join* or *support* that financially...

From what I have seen Erwin post, he has been disengenous at best...:( :( :(

God Bless,

Ty
 
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How can you be so sure that you know what God wants from this website?

Easy God wants us as the body of Christ to come together as one body and have fellowship with one another.We can not unite ourselves with unbelievers who will try to tear down our faith in Jesus Christ.God Bless


2 Corinthians 6:14-18 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial ? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people."

"Therefore come out from them
and be separate, says the Lord.
Touch no unclean thing,
and I will receive you."
"I will be a Father to you,
and you will be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty."
 
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To be honest, you have no idea what a lie is, so I'll give you a definition:
To be honest, I'd appreciate it if you would apologize for accusing me of know knowing a simple English definition.
As you can see, a mistake can't be called a lie, because that's not what the word means. Erwin thought he wouldn't change his mind when it comes to some things on this website, but he was mistaken.
I'm pretty sure he didn't "forget" what he'd been saying for years... It was no mistake.



It depends on if you'd consider yourself a follower of Christ.
Sure, the Christ of the BIBLE! Not some space alien, as I described.
 
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He's [sic] just opened the Christian section up to full blown heretics who come in professing that the Trinity is a false heresy & they're Christians ---
AND THAT'S NOT A VIOLATION anymore.

That is as it should be. Athanasian Christians can retreat to their congregational bunkers if they cannot weather richly deserved criticisms of their absurd Christology.
 
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