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KerrMetric · Aug 18, 2007

Moriah_Conquering_Wind said:
So basically he's turning it into a money machine and plans to sell it in the future for a much higher price.

I disagree with your conclusion here.

Tarika · Aug 18, 2007

Garnet2727 said:
Thank you. To me, it's obvious that this is a reaction to those who were hollering about the new CF being a social site and telling Erwin to take Christian out of the name. I think a rather large bluff has been called.

It will be interesting to see the outcome.

I agree.

allmyluv4Him · Aug 18, 2007

Flynmonkie said:
Although I do wish we still were called Christian Forums not to mention I wonder what is going to happen to the mdse. This seems to be a very serious step.

Good Grief! Look at all you Christians complaining about a name?? Where does it say in the Bible that we are to seclude ourselves from society? (Unequally yoked means dont marry! Not hide your light!) Every single day we should be prepared to answer what we believe and why. Every single place we find ourselves, and to every one. We are to go out and witness. Not preach not condemn but SHOW that we believe in our faith.

Where is your faith? Do you not believe God is greater than any problems set before you?

I think Erwin made a good choice. There is no question in my mind he is leaving this to God. I am certainly not going to discourage that. I hope to see things get better and better from here. If you are a Christian that feels that you just cannot handle it, then go. I hate to see it though. I would much rather we all find that place to learn and grow, rather than a place that we stagnate in, or a rut that we have decorated and called home.

So I guess that each forum will be open to all? Or will there be denomination specific places people can congregate in? I am under the impression that each forum should decide for themselves, but are we keeping in line with whoever may post wherever?

I cant speak for others, but as for myself, Im not complaining of 'just a name'. Im standing up for my Lord. His name is HOLY and it has been taken from too much already. I didnt come here to seclude myself from non Christians. I came here to fellowship with people who love the Lord as I do.

My Lord and Savior stood up for me in front of that angry mob yelling for his crucifixion, the least I can do is keep his name holy.

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Aug 18, 2007

MartinM said:
2) There is a distinction between 'not getting things my own way' and Satan.

3) No, we atheists are not salivating over these changes.

In light of self-identifying as an atheist, could you please explain what you meant by #2, above?? :scratch:

I'm simultaneously confused and intrigued by it. Thanks.

suzybeezy · Aug 18, 2007

This at least confirms the rumors that Erwin was making a hefty profit from this site. To spend the what $7000 so easily shows he had the money available - he wouldn't just appease people by spending money from his own pocket. He bowed to the masses so he could continue making money.

LITB · Aug 18, 2007

pgp_protector said:
WOW

Domain Name FORU.MS / foru.ms
Seller Brindle123
Description Can be used to list every known Forum on the site. Unlimited possibilities. Great name. Marketable. Great keyword. Blo.gs sold for $5,000,000.00

Final Price $7,000.00 USD
Category Society / General
Previous Offers
Number of offers: 1 Bid
Last offer: $7,000.00 USD
Expires: n/a (Sold) Offer history
Offered by: Erwinloh

Double

WOW

P_G · Aug 18, 2007

SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS?????????

I wonder how many people could have been fed if Second Harvest had gotten a SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLAR donation.

I am gonna go puke

PG

Melethiel · Aug 18, 2007

Xpycoctomos said:
SImple Question:

Is "Christian" still defined here (as it used to be by the Nicene Creed? Anyone?

John

The Nicene Creed is staying in Theology as long as I'm around. Which might not be much longer.

Goodchild · Aug 18, 2007

Addicted2~Jesus said:
I was in error bout which post, it was 27 I was talkin bout, an I may be in error bout the beliefs of the poster, it could be sarcastic an I missed it the first time.

http://foru.ms/showpost.php?p=37830473&postcount=26

Actually... this site loaded slowly when I typed ^ that, but when I went to git the links I seen the "faith" icon of the poster an it is an athesits.

Yeah, HopeBforJC caught it earlier and pointed it out. Looks like a 3-post sock account, someone too cowardly to stand up with their main account and say something so discourteous and plain rude.

But it is just one. I think you'll agree that pretty much every other non-christian throughout this thread has been fairly polite (with the exception of Chalnoth getting a big LOL out of all this. He has a point though that no one caught) and not particularly celebratory or anything.

Thanks for taking the time to look for that though A2J, it's much appreciated!

KerrMetric · Aug 18, 2007

allmyluv4Him said:
Im not complaining of 'just a name'.

Yes you are.

Im standing up for my Lord.

Not really. You may think it however.

I came here to fellowship with people who love the Lord as I do.

Which hasn't changed.

HopeBforJC · Aug 18, 2007

Moriah_Conquering_Wind said:
So basically he's turning it into a money machine and plans to sell it in the future for a much higher price.

No, I don't think thats the point. Its saying that he bought it like 2 or 3 weeks ago while people were debating about this exact thing. Says, he didn't listen to the debates, the votes, and just made up his own mind. Basically... *shrug*

I really don't think he did any of this for the money. I think he did what he thinks is right, and what needed to be done. Obviously, people don't agree.

HisGrace58 · Aug 18, 2007

drstevej said:
I want to commend Erwin for this change. Why? Because it is a needed step in accurately packaging what this site has become and is becoming. With this packaging new Christians and naive Christians will not think they are on a safe site spiritually. That is good given the changes of 7-7-7.

I do not commend the 7-7-7 changes. I believe that was when this site abandoned a biblical core (The Nicene Creed and a trinitarian concept of God as well as some foundational biblical standards of conduct) in favor of a WIKI-driven post modern mindset and authority structure.

Given THAT change (7-7-7) the change today only makes sense. I lays to rest Christian Forums (which had been deceased and was only awaiting a decent burial) and accurately describes what Erwin has decided this site is and will be.

Thus today is a step into accurate presentation. The new label is not the issue, the reforms of 7-7-7 are the issue.

I will likely do some apologetics here if the WIKI rules will allow any biblical truth to be presented. I will not view this as a fellowship site, even in the congregational bunkers.

I would ask Erwin to consider removing pre-teens from the site (Actually I suggest 16 or 18 as a minimum age). This place will get darker and I would not want to encourage young people to socially network here.

WIKI-on, Garth.

I sadly have to agree with you on that DrSteve. I just let my granddaughter join and now I am so sorry that I did. She loved CF!! Now I am not sure if it is the right place for her here. I will let her stay for now, but I will definitely have to monitor EVERYTHING she is doing! Unfortunately I can't see where she has visited. This really sucks, you know?

Sothron · Aug 18, 2007

As a site supporter I also would like to have my donation returned to me. I donated to this site when it was the Christian forums, not some ghetto version of Facebook or Myspace.

Rochir · Aug 18, 2007

pgp_protector said:
Just remember this lovely rule from the Wiki.

Any attempt to intimidate or silence another person/point of view is a rule violation.

That IS a good rule!

I know, totalitarisn systems do not like such, though! :doh:

Nadiine · Aug 18, 2007

Ok,... I spent some time rummaging around... I'm a little confused on this:

IS THE FAITH SECTION (the Christian area that got shoved under the bus) still operating under the original Nicene Creed agreement we signed up to agree with?

Or is this a free for fall, *eh hem*.... I mean, free for all?
And then the TOP areas are the regular ones that get overtaken by skeptics & antitheists??

I"m trying to keep positive here; throw me a bone.

Tychicus2 · Aug 18, 2007

Lisa0315 said:
http://www.afternic.com/name.php?domain=Foru.ms

Domain NameFORU.MS / foru.ms SellerBrindle123DescriptionCan be used to list every known Forum on the site. Unlimited possibilities. Great name. Marketable. Great keyword. Blo.gs sold for $5,000,000.00

Final Price$7,000.00 USD CategorySociety / GeneralPrevious OffersNumber of offers: 1 Bid
Last offer: $7,000.00 USD
Expires: n/a (Sold) Offer history
Offered by: Erwinloh

My donations helped pay for this????

:scratch:

No Swansong · Aug 18, 2007

ravenscape said:
A lot of work went into making this name change. I hope it can be easily reversed, because foru.ms doesn't fit.

Christian Forums fit even less. In fact not at all.

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Aug 18, 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by TrustingmyLord
I am speaking from a Biblical viewpoint. What God declares is the ONLY truth.

Well, not all Christians are Biblical fundamentalists, so what you believe to be true can be different than what some other Christians believe to be true.

The problem is, most people fail to make the fundamental distinction -- which is to even acknowledge there IS a distinction -- between what Scripture ACTUALLY says (i.e. according to the perfect Mind which inspires) versus what THEY BELIEVE or READ Scripture TO BE SAYING (according to their own limited understanding).

And that's where half the religious flame wars propagate.

KerrMetric · Aug 18, 2007

HisGrace58 said:
Now I am not sure if it is the right place for her here.?

Because of a name change.

CF was a far bigger risk in the past when certain people (cough cough) were Mods.

MartinM · Aug 18, 2007

allmyluv4Him said:
My Lord and Savior stood up for me in front of that angry mob yelling for his crucifixion, the least I can do is keep his name holy.

That is indeed the least you could do.

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