Question & poll for young earth creationists

How should the six days of creation be measured?

  • Measured forward in time with creative process:

  • Measured backward in time against creative process:

  • Either way is consistent with Genesis:

  • I don't know:

  • I'm not a young earth creationist:


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But, in all seriousness, you are absolutely right about the literallists and young earth creationists, not stepping up to the plate and defending their position.

Very few wanted to touch the 'Holy Spirit' thread I started in another forum, either.


What's happening to the members? :scratch:
 
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Originally posted by otseng
I'm not really sure what you mean by measuring forward or backward, but I vote for literal 24 hour days passing on Earth during creation week.


As you probably know, yom--the Hebrew word translated as "day" in the first chapter of Genesis--can have several meanings. Young earth creationists have generally chosen to accept only the meaning that says it is one 24-hour period of time. Thus, six such 24 hour periods of time would equal 144 hours. Since that time frame frame seems to be so important to young earth creationists, I am merely asking them how the 144 hours should be measured.

Should it be measured forward with the creative process for 144 hours from the approximate moment of creation?

Or should it be measured backward in time against the creative process for 144 hours toward the approximate time of creation?

Or does it make any difference to you?

Or could either method be consistent with your understanding of what the Bible says?

I think those options should constitute all the logical choices, but I am willing to add additional ones if needed in order to make the poll as fair as possible.
 
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Originally posted by Sinai
Should it be measured forward with the creative process for 144 hours from the approximate moment of creation?

Or should it be measured backward in time against the creative process for 144 hours toward the approximate time of creation?

I am not familiar with the "creative process" that you mention. Could you elaborate?
 
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Originally posted by otseng
I am not familiar with the "creative process" that you mention. Could you elaborate?

The Bible tells us that in the beginning God created the universe. Whatever you think was the first act in that process would be the beginning point. Young earth creationists think that God did it all in six consecutive 24-hour days (or 144 total hours). What happened during those 144 hours would be the creative process (i.e., both what God did and how he did it; you might think of it as being the creative flow of events if you wish). If you think that the 144 hours should be measured forward in time with the creative process, you would begin at the approximate time creation began and move forward in time with the creative process for 144 hours. In other words, each moment and each hour of day one would be measured before doing so for the second day. If, on the other hand, you think the 144 hours should be measured backward in time against the creative process (whatever you think was happening during those 144 hours), then you would begin at the end of the creative process and measure backwards in time moving against the creative process or flow of events toward the approximate beginning point of creation. If it doesn't make a difference to you or if you thinks either way would be consistent with what the first chapter of Genesis says, then there are options for those choices as well.

I have attempted to set up the poll to fully represent any likely option a young earth creationist might choose. I did not include a "none of the above" because that would imply that there was not a creative process--and that choice would be eliminated by definition.
 
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Originally posted by Sinai
The Bible tells us that in the beginning God created the universe. Whatever you think was the first act in that process would be the beginning point. Young earth creationists think that God did it all in six consecutive 24-hour days (or 144 total hours). What happened during those 144 hours would be the creative process (i.e., both what God did and how he did it; you might think of it as being the creative flow of events if you wish). If you think that the 144 hours should be measured forward in time with the creative process, you would begin at the approximate time creation began and move forward in time with the creative process for 144 hours. In other words, each moment and each hour of day one would be measured before doing so for the second day. If, on the other hand, you think the 144 hours should be measured backward in time against the creative process (whatever you think was happening during those 144 hours), then you would begin at the end of the creative process and measure backwards in time moving against the creative process or flow of events toward the approximate beginning point of creation. If it doesn't make a difference to you or if you thinks either way would be consistent with what the first chapter of Genesis says, then there are options for those choices as well.

I have attempted to set up the poll to fully represent any likely option a young earth creationist might choose. I did not include a "none of the above" because that would imply that there was not a creative process--and that choice would be eliminated by definition.

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that [it was] good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

The start of every thing is the 1st day measure forward. Be blessed.
 
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Originally posted by RedMoon
Why is it so confusing. The bible tells us what happened and what happened is the earth was created in 6 days and god rested on the seventh day. Where does all this confusion come from?



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Jam 3:16 For where envying and strife [is], there [is] confusion and every evil work.KJV
 
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Originally posted by Dorothyne
Some1 please tell me how to get my link to look link links and not jibberish. Thank u. God bless u.

You appear to have used commands similar to those used on the leftbehind.com messageboards instead of the type that are used here. Use [] brackets instead of the <> brackets. If you are linking to another site, use . Next place whatever word or site you wish to appear, and then close the command by enclosing /url inside the [] brackets.

Hope that helps!

May the good Lord lead, guide and direct you always....
 
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Originally posted by Sinai
The Bible tells us that in the beginning God created the universe. Whatever you think was the first act in that process would be the beginning point. Young earth creationists think that God did it all in six consecutive 24-hour days (or 144 total hours). What happened during those 144 hours would be the creative process (i.e., both what God did and how he did it; you might think of it as being the creative flow of events if you wish). If you think that the 144 hours should be measured forward in time with the creative process, you would begin at the approximate time creation began and move forward in time with the creative process for 144 hours. In other words, each moment and each hour of day one would be measured before doing so for the second day. If, on the other hand, you think the 144 hours should be measured backward in time against the creative process (whatever you think was happening during those 144 hours), then you would begin at the end of the creative process and measure backwards in time moving against the creative process or flow of events toward the approximate beginning point of creation. If it doesn't make a difference to you or if you thinks either way would be consistent with what the first chapter of Genesis says, then there are options for those choices as well.
Could you explain how old-agers would see a difference between going backwards and going fowards. As a young-ager, I can't see any difference between going forward or backward.
 
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Originally posted by otseng
Could you explain how old-agers would see a difference between going backwards and going fowards. As a young-ager, I can't see any difference between going forward or backward.

Ah, otseng, you are getting ahead of me just a bit. Yes, I can explain it--and I intend to do so in a future post (or thread) in which I hope to show that the often ridiculed position the young earth creationists have taken is not really as far out or as "out of step" with scientific evidence as most people think it is. But in order to do so, I wanted to firmly grasp what the young earth creationists believed and why they believed it.

The biggest problem I have encountered is that almost all the young earth creationists I have encountered tend not to think for themselves, but rather merely post other people's thoughts from some website. I intend to answer the question you posed as a part of the more comprehensive posts. But I need to finish getting a bit more data from the young earthers so that those posts will be more relevant for them--and for those who prefer to believe mainstream science. Thank you.
 
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Originally posted by Sinai
Ah, otseng, you are getting ahead of me just a bit. Yes, I can explain it--and I intend to do so in a future post (or thread) in which I hope to show that the often ridiculed position the young earth creationists have taken is not really as far out or as "out of step" with scientific evidence as most people think it is. But in order to do so, I wanted to firmly grasp what the young earth creationists believed and why they believed it.

If you do create another thread, please provide a link her so I can read about it. Thanks.
 
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