overweight kids spitting rodents at trees?

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I dreamed i was in some forest and it seemed my mom was helping or running a camp for overweight children, or the group that she was leading was overweight young boys.

they all had hamsters or guinea pigs and were wanting to spit them on trees alive. i did not want them too because they are alive and because that can make the children sick and maybe kill the boys.

Then one by one they are spitting the rodents at trees and the rodents were being killed.

But then one boy seems to have trouble and it is like the rodent tries to go through the boys throat or something until i tell the kid to spit the rodent out.

but then i run around and try to get people (i think that is what i was doing) to stop this. then suddenly one kid runs to me or a camp counselor and tells me a boy is being pumped or something he says paramedics are there and the boy exploded... i saw a bunch of people gathered around, and in my opinion, the boy is dead because if he "exploded" some way the rodent got to his stomach and ate itself out.

but i am not certain. just like i am not certain if this means anything.
 

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The boys represent mainstream Christians or the world. Mainstream Christians, or the world, particularly Americans, are fat, spoiled and indulgent. Living in prosperity and needing to be rehabilitated to become what it's supposed to be. These kids are also confused, bratty and disobedient, reflecting the true state of the church world and/or America.

The trees represent true Christians, or the church that is deeply rooted and understands the Word. The church is the representative of Christ, who is the true branch. During these end times, mainstream Christianity will be spitting lies and deceit against God’s true church, especially against churches that don’t “go along with the program” and don’t support the ecumenical movement, or the peace and prosperity message.

It's always the case when you debate scriptures with a mainstream Christian, that they always ask the question, "well, how big is your church!?" As if they are right because their church is big and prosperous. However, they are immature, spiritual babes that have little understanding of the Word.

1Thes. 5:3 says, “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.”

Jeremiah 9:6-7 says, “6] Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD.
[7] Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts, Behold, I will melt them, and try them; for how shall I do for the daughter of my people?
[8] Their tongue is as an arrow shot out; it speaketh deceit: one speaketh peaceably to his neighbour with his mouth, but in heart he layeth his wait.
[9] Shall I not visit them for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?”


Jeremiah 4:22 says, “For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.”

The dictionary defines sottish as: 1) ”Stupefied from or as if from drink, and 2) tending to drink excessively.

But like Jesus said, “The gates of Hell will not prevail against the Church.” Neither will any lies and attacks made by Christians who unknowingly align themselves with Satan.

The end result is that churches that refuse to repent will explode and die, and be overtaken by the enemy, whom they’ve aligned themselves and fornicated with the world.

I highly recommend reading the book of Jeremiah.
 
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your not going to believe this which happened prior to that dream that made no sense to me except that rodents did not belong in their mouths and it was hurting some of the children. Also in the dream I wanted to save the children and it seemed "death" of one was the only thing stopping anybody.

look here

and here


but what is ecunumerical and peace and prosperity movement?

despite what movements exist i believe we should base everything on the Word of God and compare it. The Lord wants us to preach the Gospel everywhere and share Jesus so more people know Jesus. So please explain.
 
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I don't feel that the dream was in reference to this particular woman. I believe the Lord is telling you about the spiritual environment for us all.

Your dream involves a bunch of kids, and more than one tree. Dreams are often given by God to edify the church. I used to have this gift, but told the Lord to stop because I had those that made me wake up in a cold sweat; heart pounding (white knucklers). Most of the time, it was for the church, and not myself. They were dreams/prophecies for the nations.

I regret my prayer now, because I haven't received a dream from God since then for years. Even though my dreams were often ghastly, I'd rather receive something from the Lord than none at all. Now, I'm starting to interpret them, and hope to get better at it.
 
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I don't feel that the dream was in reference to this particular woman. I believe the Lord is telling you about the spiritual environment for us all.

Your dream involves a bunch of kids, and more than one tree. Dreams are often given by God to edify the church. I used to have this gift, but told the Lord to stop because I had those that made me wake up in a cold sweat; heart pounding (white knucklers). Most of the time, it was for the church, and not myself. They were dreams/prophecies for the nations.

I regret my prayer now, because I haven't received a dream from God since then for years. Even though my dreams were often ghastly, I'd rather receive something from the Lord than none at all. Now, I'm starting to interpret them, and hope to get better at it.

i realize what you were saying about ecunumerical and prosperity now. Anybody that doesn't join the bandwagon and teach prosperity above preaching about Jesus will be lied about.

I can see this happening now even.

And I can agree this one may not be just about me or my family.

But do you think what is happening to the woman is evidence of what is happening to the church? I mean I am pointing her towards Jesus, and people seem to be giving her ideas that i am a false prophet, and that anybody that has any weakness cannot be used by God.

I preach about Jesus and what He does for me and others,. I share the Gospel. but somehow this is being construed wrongly, and I can only surmise that people are spreading lies about me in order to push false doctrines. I believe I am part of the true church and evidence of the persecution within the church.
 
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Exactly.

If you read the book of Jeremiah, the people of God were experiencing a "revival". Everyone was celebrating, thinking that they were pleading the Lord. Only Jeremiah was in touch with God and warned the people of their sin of doing their own thing and succeeding at it. The people mistook their sucess as a sign that they were pleasing God. Just like today. These mega-churches take pride that they have a charismatic pastor, huge auditoriums filled with people, and millions of dollars with a television ministry.

When you listen to them preach, its all about how to live a good life and succeed. How to get along with your neighbor, how to have the right attitude towards life, how to prosper. Nothing spiritual. No preaching about sin and repentance. Nothing about how to heal the sick, cast out devils, raise the dead; as Jesus says in Mark 16:16-18. Jesus said that if you're saved, you should be doing all these things. I've done these, except raising the dead. I'm waiting for that opportunity.

The ecumenucal(?) movement is about joining all the faiths together, even the catholics, buddhists, and hindus, and worshipping God under the same roof. The mantra is that all paths lead to God. Before Pope John died, he announced that you don't have to be a Christian to go to heaven. That's blasphemy! And yet, guys like Benny Hinn and A LOT of other big name christians support the movement.

A lot of people in Christiandom think they're save, but they're not.
 
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You're welcome to share, but don't expect a warm reception. Expect more persecution. But hey, Jesus said we would suffer just like he did, and the apostles. We're no better than Jesus.

There are publications that disclose this kind of information. I believe the Barna Research Group comes up with statistics and Christian news. I can check on it for you. My pastor usually shares this stuff from the pulpit.
 
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