P.O.D. At Cornerstone 06???

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No, but rather they are a bunch of fornicating heathens. Let me explain:

Last year in the fall/2006 I ran into a girl who is a call girl and was working as a prostitute in Seattle. This girl is 20 years old and very cute. I mean cute. She was previously working in Las Vegas before she came to Seattle. I asked her what was the most money she ever made in one night. She tells me this story about how she and a friend of hers met this band called POD in Las Vegas one night. She said she had never heard of the band. She said they had a safe in their room with stacks of money in it. To make a long story short, she and her friend did members of the band and they split 60,000 dollars in the morning when they left. This girl was telling the truth, and I'm not going to tell you how I know she was telling the truth, but she was.

You younger guys need to stop kidding yourselves about some of these so called Christian bands.
 
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I need a little more confirmation than a friends friend said. Thats not going to make me stop listening to a band.
Unless it's actually confirmed I don't really believe that.

Even if that did happen they need to be forgiven.
 
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I need a little more confirmation than a friends friend said. Thats not going to make me stop listening to a band.
Unless it's actually confirmed I don't really believe that.

Even if that did happen they need to be forgiven.
I don't think they need to be forgiven. I think they need to repent and get saved. I think you need to ask yourself where you are at spiritually if you want to listen to a group like that.
 
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I don't think they need to be forgiven. I think they need to repent and get saved. I think you need to ask yourself where you are at spiritually if you want to listen to a group like that.
Nothing has been proven about P.O.D. it's just speculation really. Would you really trust a hooker? Until they or another source of media confirms it I have no problem listening to their music. Does that make me a bad person? No.
 
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Nothing has been proven about P.O.D. it's just speculation really. Would you really trust a hooker? Until they or another source of media confirms it I have no problem listening to their music. Does that make me a bad person? No.
Even if it was confirmed, something tells me you would still listen to that garbage. Nobody ever calls you on your nonsense because it's always, "Oh I can't tell my kid what to listen to because he doesn't like my music either". Well, too bad, I'm not like that. What you're listening to is garbage and people that make a mock of Christianity. You're not going to innocently get away with it as you think either because you always reap what you sow in this life--you just haven't been around long enough to realize that. Give it up before it takes you down even further and you may eventually wind up having a problem with inhabitation from demonic spirits.
 
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Even if it was confirmed, something tells me you would still listen to that garbage. Nobody ever calls you on your nonsense because it's always, "Oh I can't tell my kid what to listen to because he doesn't like my music either". Well, too bad, I'm not like that. What you're listening to is garbage and people that make a mock of Christianity. You're not going to innocently get away with it as you think either because you always reap what you sow in this life--you just haven't been around long enough to realize that. Give it up before it takes you down even further and you may eventually wind up having a problem with inhabitation from demonic spirits.
seems like you don't like christian rock or rock in general buddy.but yeah imma have to call your bluff lol
 
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Noone pays more than 1 grand for a prostitute, and that's a very high end one.

It doesn't even seem possible to stuff 60 K cash into a hotel safe. They're not that big, and dollar bills do take up space. Heck, P.O.D. doesn't even make enough money to carry around $60,000. Yen, maybe, but not dollars.

If they did this so easily, it wouldn't be an isolated incident, and the more a celebrity does this sort of thing, the more likely it is to end up in gossip-mags or even actual news. That we don't even hear anything in the news of bad behavior of P.O.D. (and news of bad behavior of a Christian band would make money, so it would air) hasn't shown is another indication that this probably didn't happen.


Endzone, I get the impression that you just want something to set yourself above the youngins, some sort of dharma to 'educate' us, some sort of gnosis about the actions of bands that you seem ready to believe bad stuff about because you simply don't care for the genre of music they belong to. I'm sorry, but saying that a particular arrangment of musical notes is somehow demonic in and of itself, regardless of the performers, lyrics, or the interpretation, feeling, and mindset of the listener is absolutely superstitious. It's music, just like country, just like classical, just like conga. You may not like it, but whup-dee-doo -- you don't to.


I'm only 20, but one thing I've learned is to never go along stories that begin with "well, I heard from a friend with loose morals of a friend," especially over the internet. You probably be honest here, your friend might even be honest, but his word is no proof and the word of a prostitute is even less.
 
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No, but rather they are a bunch of fornicating heathens. Let me explain:

Last year in the fall/2006 I ran into a girl who is a call girl and was working as a prostitute in Seattle. This girl is 20 years old and very cute. I mean cute. She was previously working in Las Vegas before she came to Seattle. I asked her what was the most money she ever made in one night. She tells me this story about how she and a friend of hers met this band called POD in Las Vegas one night. She said she had never heard of the band. She said they had a safe in their room with stacks of money in it. To make a long story short, she and her friend did members of the band and they split 60,000 dollars in the morning when they left. This girl was telling the truth, and I'm not going to tell you how I know she was telling the truth, but she was.

You younger guys need to stop kidding yourselves about some of these so called Christian bands.

I once talked to this major hot 20-something hooker here in Seattle where I live, and she said that Endzone paid her $1k to have sex with her.

Don't ask me how I know she was telling the truth, I just know it.
 
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Noone pays more than 1 grand for a prostitute, and that's a very high end one.

It doesn't even seem possible to stuff 60 K cash into a hotel safe. They're not that big, and dollar bills do take up space. Heck, P.O.D. doesn't even make enough money to carry around $60,000. Yen, maybe, but not dollars.

If they did this so easily, it wouldn't be an isolated incident, and the more a celebrity does this sort of thing, the more likely it is to end up in gossip-mags or even actual news. That we don't even hear anything in the news of bad behavior of P.O.D. (and news of bad behavior of a Christian band would make money, so it would air) hasn't shown is another indication that this probably didn't happen.


Endzone, I get the impression that you just want something to set yourself above the youngins, some sort of dharma to 'educate' us, some sort of gnosis about the actions of bands that you seem ready to believe bad stuff about because you simply don't care for the genre of music they belong to. I'm sorry, but saying that a particular arrangment of musical notes is somehow demonic in and of itself, regardless of the performers, lyrics, or the interpretation, feeling, and mindset of the listener is absolutely superstitious. It's music, just like country, just like classical, just like conga. You may not like it, but whup-dee-doo -- you don't to.


I'm only 20, but one thing I've learned is to never go along stories that begin with "well, I heard from a friend with loose morals of a friend," especially over the internet. You probably be honest here, your friend might even be honest, but his word is no proof and the word of a prostitute is even less.
Well I had sex with her myself. I'm ashamed to admit it, but how the heck you think I know about this story? I picked her up at the intersection of 240th & Pac Hwy South. In fact I was with her on 3 seperate occasions. She was up here trying to get custody of her son, and has since gone back to Las Vegas. Has POD ever played in Las Vegas. Maybe that would be a good place to start to see if the story is true. I didn't research it one bit. BUT, I am certain she said, "POD". I asked her to repeat it, and then I said, "They're suppossed to be a Christian band." But look, you can research this band on sites that are objective, and they will point out how unChristian this band actually is. I met this girl around September/October of 2006, so in order for her story to be true, POD would of had to of played in Las Vegas sometime before then. Did they? But I will grant you there is the possibility that she was lying. Maybe she was actually with another band, but why would she tell me that story to begin with if she was covering the band? How would she as a hot shot hooker even know about a group called POD?
 
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Well I had sex with her myself. I'm ashamed to admit it, but how the heck you think I know about this story? I picked her up at the intersection of 240th & Pac Hwy South. In fact I was with her on 3 seperate occasions. She was up here trying to get custody of her son, and has since gone back to Las Vegas. Has POD ever played in Las Vegas. Maybe that would be a good place to start to see if the story is true. I didn't research it one bit. BUT, I am certain she said, "POD". I asked her to repeat it, and then I said, "They're suppossed to be a Christian band." But look, you can research this band on sites that are objective, and they will point out how unChristian this band actually is. I met this girl around September/October of 2006, so in order for her story to be true, POD would of had to of played in Las Vegas sometime before then. Did they? But I will grant you there is the possibility that she was lying. Maybe she was actually with another band, but why would she tell me that story to begin with if she was covering the band? How would she as a hot shot hooker even know about a group called POD?
Hahahaha.
Gullible is not in the dictionary by the way.
 
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Well I had sex with her myself. I'm ashamed to admit it, but how the heck you think I know about this story? I picked her up at the intersection of 240th & Pac Hwy South. In fact I was with her on 3 seperate occasions. She was up here trying to get custody of her son, and has since gone back to Las Vegas. Has POD ever played in Las Vegas. Maybe that would be a good place to start to see if the story is true. I didn't research it one bit. BUT, I am certain she said, "POD". I asked her to repeat it, and then I said, "They're suppossed to be a Christian band." But look, you can research this band on sites that are objective, and they will point out how unChristian this band actually is. I met this girl around September/October of 2006, so in order for her story to be true, POD would of had to of played in Las Vegas sometime before then. Did they? But I will grant you there is the possibility that she was lying. Maybe she was actually with another band, but why would she tell me that story to begin with if she was covering the band? How would she as a hot shot hooker even know about a group called POD?

And also, you just sat there condemning them for something they "may have possibly" done, when you yourself just admitted to doing it 3 times. You tell us we shouldn't listen to them because of it, by the same standard shouldn't we not listen to you?
 
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And also, you just sat there condemning them for something they "may have possibly" done, when you yourself just admitted to doing it 3 times. You tell us we shouldn't listen to them because of it, by the same standard shouldn't we not listen to you?
I didn't condemn them. I said they aren't what you think they are. I said that you young people who listen to them are kidding yourself about them being a Christian band. I said they need Jesus and they need to get saved. How is that condemning them? I think all I'm going to hear from you guys who like this band is twisted logic. Because NO MATTER WHAT THIS BAND DOES OR IS, you're still going to listen to them--or so it seems to me.
 
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Who was the poster in this thread that said POD couldn't have enough money for 60,000 dollars and that it wouldn't fit in the safe? These guys have more money than they know what to do with. Read this article here. I'm beginning to think most of you guys who listen to them need to get saved too. http://www.av1611.org/crock/pod.html
 
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I'm very familiar with the music and lives of the men in P.O.D.

I find this prostitution story highly suspicious. The men in P.O.D. take great care in keeping themselves sexually pure and faithful to their wives. They have put "safeguards" in effect that would make such an event nearly impossible to happen.

1) They do not handle their own money. They would never carry such an enormous amount of cash with them. They have an accouting firm that handles their money.

2) They hold Bible studies and prayer sessions daily with each other and members of their staff who travel with them.

3) They have staff who are responsible for making sure things like that do not happen.

4) They have made themselves spiritually accountable to pastors.

My conclusion - This story does not match what I personally know their character to be, nor is it something that could easily slip past their staff.

By the way, endzone, I'm no "kid" myself, nor a recent convert to Christianity. I've been a Christian for more than 30 years and involved in ministry nearly 25 years.
 
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I'm very familiar with the music and lives of the men in P.O.D.

I find this prostitution story highly suspicious. The men in P.O.D. take great care in keeping themselves sexually pure and faithful to their wives. They have put "safeguards" in effect that would make such an event nearly impossible to happen.

1) They do not handle their own money. They would never carry such an enormous amount of cash with them. They have an accouting firm that handles their money.

2) They hold Bible studies and prayer sessions daily with each other and members of their staff who travel with them.

3) They have staff who are responsible for making sure things like that do not happen.

4) They have made themselves spiritually accountable to pastors.

My conclusion - This story does not match what I personally know their character to be, nor is it something that could easily slip past their staff.

By the way, endzone, I'm no "kid" myself, nor a recent convert to Christianity. I've been a Christian for more than 30 years and involved in ministry nearly 25 years.
Well I appreciate your courteous response. If I judge these guys for having a cute call girl in their hotel, then I judge myself too. And BTW it only cost me $100. You have to wonder if the 60K wasn't hush money? But I'll tell you one thing, and that is my part of the story is true. I can't verify the rest about POD. But really if they are a Christian group and slip up, it's no big deal to me. My point regarding the call girl is that this band is like any other secular metal band that hires expensive Las Vegas hookers. That's what my point was. The only way for me to know if the girl's story is true would be to get divine revelation about from the Lord God, and I just haven't prayed about it that much because it just hasn't been that important to me. I tend to believe she was telling the truth. This girl wasn't your usual street hooker. She was very cute, sweet, middle class, no-drugs type of working girl which is rare. And I also don't want to glorify prostitution because it is a horrible sexual addiction that will destroy you. But somebody is deceived here. Either I am or you and the young people who listen to them are. I think their Christianity is a front.
 
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