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If someone wants to recite the rosary thats fine , their not harming anyone , exactly what good it does I have no idea . ( Does the bible teach it ? )
I personly prefer to recite the lords prayer .
I personly prefer to recite the lords prayer .
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Why would non-catholics want to pray to Mary a hundred times in a day? That's what praying the rosary is. It's a chain of beads to help you keep track of how many times you've said the "Hail Mary" in a single session.
If you feel it's appropriate to pray to Mary, and to pray the same prayer over one hundred times in a single day, then I suppose it's okay for you to pray the rosary.
But that won't improve your prayer life or your relationship with God. Try conversationally talking to God throughout the day. It WILL help you become closer to God and be a more effective way to communicate with Him.
If you feel it's appropriate to pray to Mary, and to pray the same prayer over one hundred times in a single day, then I suppose it's okay for you to pray the rosary.
But that won't improve your prayer life or your relationship with God. Try conversationally talking to God throughout the day. It WILL help you become closer to God and be a more effective way to communicate with Him.
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Rosary,interesting
no one acually prays to mary,it is actually(in my own words)pestering her to pray for us unceasingly,like the verse from the bible"knock and it shall be opened,seek and it shall be found,ask and it shall be given"
the rosary is not a thing to keep track of how many times u have said
the rosary is the MOST powerful prayer against EVIL,it is said using the fingers,hearts and mouth.
there was this report about two sisters who said the rosary,one said it fervently,the other just brush through it,Mary appeared to the first,in vibrant and beautiful colours,she appeared to the latter in sack cloth,dirty and rugged
i heard that when i was young
another thing is about praying the rosary everyday
mary,she herself ask us to pray the rosary everyday for the conversion of russia then and the conversion of sinners,for the souls in pugatory,and for her many children who are going to hell if they do not repent and beg for god's mercy
in all apparations,either lourdes,fatima,medjudgorje,akita and many more places which i can't remember,she never ceased to ask her little children to keep on praying the rosary, in the same time lead a life pleasing to god,
IF HER MESSAGE WERE LEFT UNHEEDED,GOD'S WRATH WILL COME UPON THE EARTH.THINGS WORSE THAN WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW WILL HAPPEN.
so keep praying and have faith
no one acually prays to mary,it is actually(in my own words)pestering her to pray for us unceasingly,like the verse from the bible"knock and it shall be opened,seek and it shall be found,ask and it shall be given"
the rosary is not a thing to keep track of how many times u have said
the rosary is the MOST powerful prayer against EVIL,it is said using the fingers,hearts and mouth.
there was this report about two sisters who said the rosary,one said it fervently,the other just brush through it,Mary appeared to the first,in vibrant and beautiful colours,she appeared to the latter in sack cloth,dirty and rugged
i heard that when i was young
another thing is about praying the rosary everyday
mary,she herself ask us to pray the rosary everyday for the conversion of russia then and the conversion of sinners,for the souls in pugatory,and for her many children who are going to hell if they do not repent and beg for god's mercy
in all apparations,either lourdes,fatima,medjudgorje,akita and many more places which i can't remember,she never ceased to ask her little children to keep on praying the rosary, in the same time lead a life pleasing to god,
IF HER MESSAGE WERE LEFT UNHEEDED,GOD'S WRATH WILL COME UPON THE EARTH.THINGS WORSE THAN WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW WILL HAPPEN.
so keep praying and have faith
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There's nothing uncivil about want to have a discussion about something from a purely non catholic viewpoint. What's uncivil is for a catholic to break in and impose a catholic view onto the discussion, especially the all caps demand that we "heed her message."
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What ever happened to speaking to fellow Christians with the love and mercy that our lord has shown us.
Yes, I understand you are coming from a non-Catholic point of view, and I respect that, but it appeared that you snapped at someone that may be having trouble with their typing skills rather than admonishing you for not praying the rosary.
That's all, I meant no offense either, I just thought you could have been a bit more charitable.
That's all.
Yes, I understand you are coming from a non-Catholic point of view, and I respect that, but it appeared that you snapped at someone that may be having trouble with their typing skills rather than admonishing you for not praying the rosary.
That's all, I meant no offense either, I just thought you could have been a bit more charitable.
That's all.
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sorry lambslove if u did not like to listen to what i said,
but it is all from reports,its up to u to reject it,after all it is ur problem not mine,i did not ask u to heed it,i was reporting her plight that HUMANITY ,not u alone,that goes for all catholics and non catholics,muslims,buddhist,everyone,who has two legs and two arms.
by the way i was just being lazy to use commas,full stops,capital letters and all literature component rules and regulation,sorry for those long and unending sentences without a full stop.
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but it is all from reports,its up to u to reject it,after all it is ur problem not mine,i did not ask u to heed it,i was reporting her plight that HUMANITY ,not u alone,that goes for all catholics and non catholics,muslims,buddhist,everyone,who has two legs and two arms.
by the way i was just being lazy to use commas,full stops,capital letters and all literature component rules and regulation,sorry for those long and unending sentences without a full stop.
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Most powerful? Who told you this? Where would you learn that one prayer is the "MOST" powerful prayer against evil? Is there biblical support for any prayer being more powerful than another? Also, what is it that you think is accomplished by prayer? Do you think God is waiting on our prayer to give us grace?
Neat. But what does a story have to do with the implementation of God's grace? Additionally, what is it that you think the appearance of Mary does for you or means to you? Can Mary accomplish anything apart from God's Will? If not, what is praying to her going to accomplish?
Mary herself tells you this? Mary asks us to pray for the conversion of Russia? Why do you feel you have to "beg for God's mercy" as if God needs to be persuaded to give it? Wouldn't God's actions be righteous all the time?
Where did you read this stuff? Was this in the Bible?
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But her message IS being unheeded by many. And, God's wrath WILL come upon the earth. And, things worse than what is happening now WILL happen. "Mary's message" isn't what's keeping God's wrath from coming upon the earth, nor is it the prayers of those who are heeding "her message." God's Will is done despite what we do, despite what we pray. You act as if the only reason God is holding back on delivering His wrath on a fallen world is because Mary is holding Him back. Is Mary more powerful or righteous than God in you opinion?
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Actually, it's not praying to Mary, it's asking her to pray for me, like I would ask my own mother to do. And actually, the Hail Mary is not the only thing recited. Other things are as follows: Apostle's Creed, the Lord's Prayer, Glory Be, O my Jesus, etc.
You're operating within a logical fallacy, ie "strawman". As I stated above, Mary is not prayed to in the hope that she will grant my requests. She is requested to pray for me, as I would ask you to do the same. Therefore, your statements are invalid. It's like telling a man, "You can continue to beat your wife if you wish."
Au contraire... it has, in fact, brought me closer to God. When each set of Hail Mary's, a decade, is prayed, a "mystery" is contemplated. These "mysteries" are events from the life of Christ. It is essentially a meditation on the Gospel, based in Scripture.
And I do, in fact, talk conversationally with God on a perpetual, most of the time hour-to-hour basis. That's another thing that the Rosary does for me. Whenever I see, hear, feel, etc my Rosary in my pocket, I am reminded to pray to God, asking Him to grant my requests and sanctify my soul.
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And you don't feel that you could "contemplate" these mysteries without first saying the rosary?
Maybe you should pray that God will give you a hunger for His Word and a discernment in your understanding so that you will not need anything but His Word to remind you to pray without ceasing.
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The Rosary contains nothing but God's word. All the prayers are directly from scripture - so we are, in fact hearing his Word.
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I don't believe that the Rosary can somehow change the will of God or affect His actions. What I do believe is that it helps one to understand what went through Mary's heart as she viewed the life of her Son and thus helps one to meditate on the life of Christ. I figure that she was probably the closest one to Jesus by reason of their mother-son relationship. And when I get to Heaven, I'm sure one of the things Jesus will say to me is, "Dude, have you met my mom?" 
If Christians are all family, then surely we have a special connection with the mother that bore the Christ within her womb for nine months.
If Christians are all family, then surely we have a special connection with the mother that bore the Christ within her womb for nine months.
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The rosary does that for you? But the rosary doesn't say anything about "what went through Mary's heart as she viewed the life of her Son." The prayer isn't about Mary.
Is this supported biblically? How did you come to this conclusion? Is it because of your own relationship with your mother?
Reeeaaally?
Of course we do. She's our sister in Christ. Does that make us Jesus' uncles and aunts?
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How would you suggest I go about it? I haven't found any protestant mechanisms that would facilitate such a practice to such a degree. Protestant churches have really left me in the dark on this one. I can't find anything other than "read your Bible" offered as a suggestion.
Well, I don't think my Thompson Chain Reference would fit in my pocket.
But seriously, I don't know anything better to do. There is nothing as powerful and elegant an image as the Rosary. Would a "cross in my pocket" work better? Perhaps a WWJD bracelet? These remind me that God exists, yes, but I do not feel as though they explicitly impress upon my heart the spiritual urgency of daily, continual prayer.
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It seems to me that a mother would have a special love and a special mourning over Christ's life and death.
So the disciples and others were closer, emotionally, to Christ than Mary, His own mother?
Well goodness... wouldn't He? She carried Him in her womb for 9 months, bore Him, nurtured Him, fed Him, clothed Him, took Him to the Temple, etc, etc.
Of course we do. She's our sister in Christ. Does that make us Jesus' uncles and aunts?
No... the reason why I would view her as a mother is because she is the mother of Christ, with which I have been made coheir, yes? And if Christ considers her his mother, why should I not do the same?
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Well, I don't see as how "read your Bible" is bad advice. It may not work for you. I would say if it helps you mature in your faith then do it.
Like I said, if it's working for you keep doing it. Reading scripture, associating with others who have faith, talking about God's Word are all methods I use to increase my fervent love for my Creator. But, if the rosary helps I say go for it man.
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Okay. But the rosary doesn't say anything about that.
I don't have a clue. The one who does the Will of the Father would be as close to Him as anyone else who does the Will of the Father. I don't think, nor is it supported biblically, that Christ and Mary had your average "mother-son" relationship. I believe Christ loved Mary, just as He loves other Christians.
I see. Well, I imagine she was priviledged enough to spend a lot of time with Him. I don't know that that constitutes coming to the conclusion that Christ loves her more than any other Christian.
You say this as if you think Christ goes to her when He has problems. How involved do you think she gets into the plans of God? Do you think it parallels an earthly mother-son relationship?
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