Mixed Religion Marriage

ephraimanesti · Jun 9, 2007

FenderElctrc said:
We need to learn to love one another. How can we bring someone to Jesus if we don't show love.

Is it not loving to clearly and without the polite sugar-coating necessitated by "political correctness" delineate to the person the spiritual darkness in which they are presently trapped by false beliefs and the delusions by means of which the Evil One has succeeded in separating them from God's light pursuant to their eternal destruction? How can someone seek salvation when they are presently under the delusion that they are already "saved?"

ephraim

suzie · Jun 9, 2007

Hello, I am Christian and I want to marry a woman who is Muslim. Of course her religion strictly forbids it, but how is the Christian religion on this type of thing?
I have known her for 10 years, we are very much in love and want to be married now.
Thanks for any help on this subject

The crux of Christianity is the Trinity. The Muslim religion does not believe this. Thus you are not yoked on the very basic principles of belief. There are warnings about this in the Sciptures. God does not want us to be unequally yoked with others outside the Christian realm. It is for our own protection. When you enter into marriage, it is seen from the Christian perspective as entering into a covenant with God. Christian marriage is as close to the Trinity as humans can come. Man and woman become "one flesh". Christ is center in their marriage and they are much more together than they can be apart...

Rage4Christ · Jun 9, 2007

psev,

Well, as I said before. Many Christian Traditions frown on the idea. (maybe I should have made that a warning rather than just an observation).

I'm personally embarrassed that you invited your wife to post here and then got the treatment you both received.

I'll just say there is much passion about this issue, and all the responses were based out of the best intentions. I hope that tempers any offense.

Again, I think its wonderful that your love can perhaps build a bridge between cultures, and in that love great things can grow.

I don't agree with the messages of fear here, in that you have to fear being "yolked." We can love things different than ourselves-- it just takes really clear boundaries and respect.

Your wife-to-be has made her choices and if she continues to strive for love and peace that is just her path, and if you can give her love and support, that's wonderful. I'm not going to predict her fate, that's God's work-- all I can do is encourage that unconditional love that Christ asks of us all.

suzie · Jun 9, 2007

Unconditional love is not the same as asking a Christian and non christian to unite in marriage.

It isnt about bridging cultures. If someone is professing to be a Christian and asks other Christians if it is ok to marry a Muslim, I really dont understand how there can be another answer but what is presented in Scripture.

If God is to be the very center of a Christians life, and your mate does not have the same god, then how can they be in harmony?

Just because you want something does not mean it is meant to be.

ephraimanesti · Jun 10, 2007

suzie said:
Unconditional love is not the same as asking a Christian and non christian to unite in marriage.

It isnt about bridging cultures. If someone is professing to be a Christian and asks other Christians if it is ok to marry a Muslim, I really dont understand how there can be another answer but what is presented in Scripture.

If God is to be the very center of a Christians life, and your mate does not have the same god, then how can they be in harmony?

Just because you want something does not mean it is meant to be.

AMEN!

The sooner we discover and accept that our wants and God's Will are two different things, the sooner we can consider ourselves CHRISTIANS in the full sense of the word. As our Lord stated,

"IF YOU LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS! (John 14:15)

Anything short of this will always end in disaster for all involved.

A BOND-SLAVE OF CHRIST,
ephraim

The Princess Bride · Jun 11, 2007

I wouldnt marry someone who does not share my religious beliefs.

Look at King Solomon and where it got him later in life....

ephraimanesti · Jun 11, 2007

The Princess Bride said:
I wouldnt marry someone who does not share my religious beliefs.

Look at King Solomon and where it got him later in life....

Not to mention what Nehemiah did to those who committed this sin as recounted in Nehemiah 13:23-29)

ephraim

dimwhitt · Jun 11, 2007

i think tehre is a good chance your muslim friend could become a christian if u shared the gospel with them

did u know the koran says Jesus was a great prophet, born of a virgin, a miracle worker (like no other), and i think it even calls him messiah
on the other hand
the koran denies Jesus rose from the dead, that he is god, that he is of "the trinity" (1 god 3 persons)

are u really serious about your christianity?
is she really serious about Islam?

ephraimanesti · Jun 11, 2007

dimwhitt said:
i think tehre is a good chance your muslim friend could become a christian if u shared the gospel with them

Marrying a person who is an unbeliever on the slight chance that she may convert is not worth facing the consequences when she does not.

dimwhitt said:
did u know the koran says Jesus was a great prophet, born of a virgin, a miracle worker (like no other), and i think it even calls him messiah
on the other hand the koran denies Jesus rose from the dead, that he is god, that he is of "the trinity" (1 god 3 persons)

The Koran states that Jesus is just one of many prophets send by God to pave the way for Mohammed--"god's true prophet". In no way is our Lord seen as the Son of God or the Savior of the world.

dimwhitt said:
are u really serious about your christianity?
is she really serious about Islam?

It appears that they are only serious about each other given that their contemplated "marriage" goes against the commandments of both their claimed religious affiliations. In fact, if they were living in a Muslim country, they would both be stoned to death once their plans were discovered.

ephraim

TheCheat1 · Jun 11, 2007

Rage4Christ said:
psev,

Well, as I said before. Many Christian Traditions frown on the idea. (maybe I should have made that a warning rather than just an observation).

I'm personally embarrassed that you invited your wife to post here and then got the treatment you both received.

I'll just say there is much passion about this issue, and all the responses were based out of the best intentions. I hope that tempers any offense.

Again, I think its wonderful that your love can perhaps build a bridge between cultures, and in that love great things can grow.

I don't agree with the messages of fear here, in that you have to fear being "yolked." We can love things different than ourselves-- it just takes really clear boundaries and respect.

Your wife-to-be has made her choices and if she continues to strive for love and peace that is just her path, and if you can give her love and support, that's wonderful. I'm not going to predict her fate, that's God's work-- all I can do is encourage that unconditional love that Christ asks of us all.

Embarrassed? What did we do to embarrass you? Obey God?

It is not wonderful in the slightest. Have you ever even cracked open a Bible?

Right, even though Scripture says not to mix darkness with light.

Not asks, commands. Jesus commanded.

suzie said:
Unconditional love is not the same as asking a Christian and non christian to unite in marriage.

It isnt about bridging cultures. If someone is professing to be a Christian and asks other Christians if it is ok to marry a Muslim, I really dont understand how there can be another answer but what is presented in Scripture.

If God is to be the very center of a Christians life, and your mate does not have the same god, then how can they be in harmony?

Just because you want something does not mean it is meant to be.

Yes, right on target. Let's say you need to pray about a certain subject. Can you ask your wife to pray with you about it? Of course not! One of you will be praying to the Father and the other to Allah!

ephraimanesti said:
AMEN!

The sooner we discover and accept that our wants and God's Will are two different things, the sooner we can consider ourselves CHRISTIANS in the full sense of the word. As our Lord stated,

"IF YOU LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS! (John 14:15)

Anything short of this will always end in disaster for all involved.

A BOND-SLAVE OF CHRIST,
ephraim

You know ephraim, I'm starting to love that big red font of yours.

There's that "Jesus commanded" thing again, just like I said!

dimwhitt said:
i think tehre is a good chance your muslim friend could become a christian if u shared the gospel with them

did u know the koran says Jesus was a great prophet, born of a virgin, a miracle worker (like no other), and i think it even calls him messiah
on the other hand
the koran denies Jesus rose from the dead, that he is god, that he is of "the trinity" (1 god 3 persons)

are u really serious about your christianity?
is she really serious about Islam?

Major difference between being friends and being married.

No, it does not call Him Messiah. If it did, Muslims would be forced to follow Him.

It doesn't sound like he even remotely is, but she sounds serious about Islam. After all, he did say "I don't mind being a Muslim".

ephraimanesti · Jun 11, 2007

suzie said:
The crux of Christianity is the Trinity. The Muslim religion does not believe this. Thus you are not yoked on the very basic principles of belief. There are warnings about this in the Sciptures. God does not want us to be unequally yoked with others outside the Christian realm. It is for our own protection. When you enter into marriage, it is seen from the Christian perspective as entering into a covenant with God. Christian marriage is as close to the Trinity as humans can come. Man and woman become "one flesh". Christ is center in their marriage and they are much more together than they can be apart...

What you say is very True. However, narrowing it down a bit further, the real crux of Christianity is our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ--"There is no other name given under heaven whereby we can be saved." (Acts 4:12) As our Lord taught, "A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF CANNOT STAND." (Luke 11:17) A household created by a Christian married to an unbeliever is doomed from the start--that is assuming a Christian who willfully violates God's commandment regarding mixed marriages can continue to be considered a Christian in any meaningful sense of the word.

The outcome, of course, is that both will end up losing their religious beliefs. For the muslim this is no big deal, but for the Christian the loss will be eternal.

MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON THEM BOTH AND GUIDE THEIR CHOICES IN THIS MATTER!

ephraim

TheCheat1 · Jun 11, 2007

ephraimanesti said:
What you say is very True. However, narrowing it down a bit further, the real crux of Christianity is our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ--"There is no other name given under heaven whereby we can be saved." (Acts 4:12) As our Lord taught, "A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF CANNOT STAND." (Luke 11:17) A household created by a Christian married to an unbeliever is doomed from the start--that is assuming a Christian who willfully violates God's commandment regarding mixed marriages can continue to be considered a Christian in any meaningful sense of the word.

The outcome, of course, is that both will end up losing their religious beliefs. For the muslim this is no big deal, but for the Christian the loss will be eternal.

MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON THEM BOTH AND GUIDE THEIR CHOICES IN THIS MATTER!

ephraim

I must disagree with one thing, it will most definitely be a big deal for the Muslim. The Bible clearly states where Muslims end up.

ephraimanesti · Jun 11, 2007

The Cheat said:
I must disagree with one thing, it will most definitely be a big deal for the Muslim. The Bible clearly states where Muslims end up.

TRUE--but my point was that given the fact that their faith in Islam is misguided, groundless, and non-salvific in the first place, losing it is in reality no loss--sort of like a kid losing their faith in the reality of Santa Claus is no big deal.

ephraim

TheCheat1 · Jun 11, 2007

ephraimanesti said:
TRUE--but my point was that given the fact that their faith in Islam is misguided, groundless, and non-salvific in the first place, losing it is in reality no loss--sort of like a kid losing their faith in the reality of Santa Claus is no big deal.

ephraim

Ah, I see. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

spiersdodgerblue · Jun 12, 2007

Wow what a thread! Read every word.

Even though some profess a faith in Jesus, when the human in them don't hear what they want to hear they go deaf. What a shame! This to me is one of the dangers, Gods Word is trying to protect us from.

All who posted with the truth in this matter from the age of 14 - 64 male and female, I give praise to the risen Lord and man kinds only Savior Jesus Christ. :amen:

micbmac · Jun 12, 2007

pcsev said:
Hello, I am Christian and I want to marry a woman who is Muslim. Of course her religion strictly forbids it, but how is the Christian religion on this type of thing?
I have known her for 10 years, we are very much in love and want to be married now.
Thanks for any help on this subject.

Wow. That's tuff. I would not do it. You two don't agree on anything as far as religion is concerned. I see lots of arguments ahead. She won't convert? Sorry I know that's probably not what you wanted to hear, but I think it's a BAD idea. BAD idea.

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