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[FONT="] No doubt western society and American culture have their part to play and part of the blame. But people still have to take some responsibility for their actions. It is very rare that someone is obese due to circumstances completely beyond their control. [/FONT]
No Mezza, it's not rare . . it is very common, and the reason it is common is because of ignorance of what is in our foods and what kinds of foods in what proportions people need to eat and what they need to avoid.
That is my point.
That is why obesity is such a HUGE problem in America . . . .
And the Food Industry wants to make it appear that they are not the culprits, and so they encourage the type of mentality you have been expressing here.
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[FONT="] Im not a doctor, I havent even taken a science class since soft more year of high school so I really have no idea about any of that. Though from my limited understanding cholesterol is what clogs your lines into your heart that causes heart attacks. [/FONT]
That is EXACTLY what the Drug Industry wants you to believe, becaue they are making huge profits on anti=cholesterol drugs which can hurt and kill . .. they are more interested in their profits than they are in your health.
Look at how many drugs have been recalled . . . .look at the warnings on those commercials . . .
Cholesterol is MADE BY THE BODY if you don't take in enough through your diet.
Your body will MAKE Cholesterol if it thinks it needs it.
Cholesterol is a BANDAID the body makes in order to treat the ravages of inflammation in your body . . it is also need for proper brain function.
So, your arteries getting clogged by cholesterol has nothing to do with how much choleserol you eat, because, as I said, your body will make it irregardless. . .
Your arteries getting clogged has to do with INFLAMMATION.
Here is what happens:
Your arterial walls become inflamed because of diet or whatever the cause.
The red blood cells and other constituants of the blood brush up against the sides of the aterial walls and because of their highly inflamed state, this causes microabrasions.
The body then see a need to patch those abrasions up, and so sends cholesterol to make bandaids. . . .
Until the inflammation that stated this process is reversed, this process continues.
People who have had severely clogged arteries and avoided medical proceedures to treat this by simply reversing the inflammatory response in the body . . then the body sees there is no need for these "bandaids" and reasorbs them.
One resverses the inflammatory process mainly through diet.
The FOOD INDUSTRY is the culprit for causing the majority of heart disease in this nation.
Now, what causes inflammation? Sugar, Insulin, saturated fats, transfats . . . . inflammatory Omega 6's (there are both inflammatory O-6;s and anti-inflammatory O-6's - standard American diets are high in the inflammatory ones, low in the anti-inflammatory ones). American diets are too low in anti-inflammatory Omega 3's and Omega 6's.
And it goes on . . . .
One of the big discoveries that was squashed 30 years ago is rather than 'fats" being the problem, it is inflammatory protiens that are actually much more problematic.
Elevated homocystine, an amino acid your body makes from methionine, cauess incredible amounts of inflammation.
I had a stroke last year . . no cause can be found except an significant elevation in homocystiene.
Elevated homocystiene causes excessive thickening of the blood, excessive clotting and INFLAMMATION.
I had been on supplements that combatted those effects without realizing I had that problem.
I went off those supplements and a whole host of problems began that I didn't connect to each other, and then I had a stroke, a serious stroke, which God miraculously delivered me from the most devastating consequences of in an instant.
I immediately went back on the supplements as I new they would help prevent blood clots.
It was after this and intense research into what could have caused the stroke that I learned all this . . less than a year ago.
Now, I have a nursing background. I have a BSN.
If, with my extensive background in nursing and medical knowledge I didn't know anything about these things until less than a year ago, why would I or you suppose you should know about this at your age when this has not been your focus?
I would wagger that the vast majority of people who read this knew nothing of what I have just shared until now.
Don't blame your brothers and sisters for being fat .. .
blame the food and drug industries for deceiving us as to what was good for us to eat.
You know how certain group has deceived most of the world regarding who and what they are . . .
The food and drug industries have done the same thing about what is good for us to eat.
You need to read about Syndrome X - obesity is part of that syndrome. Heart disease is part of that syndrom, Diabetes is part of that syndrome. . . . High Blood Pressure is part of that syndrome.
It is ALL connected to the food we are told is a normal American diet . . .
It has nothing to do with gluttony . . . . gluttony is rare.
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[FONT="] I have to disagree here, I feel that most people who are overweight are so because they neglect themselves and their diet and put limited, if any effort into maintain a healthy lifestyle. [/FONT]
That is your feeling . .. and that is how this society has conditioned us to think and feel about this situation.
As long as that perception can be maintained, the food and drug industries have no reason to change, for their culpability in this remains hidden.
But this is changing . .. notice how name brands are beginning to come out with organic versions of their foods .. people are starting to wake up from thier slumber and realize that the manufactured'processed foods they trusted are killing them.
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[FONT="] Of course there are a lot of people who try and struggle with weight, but they seem like a minority. [/FONT]
No, you are going on how things "seem" to you . .
You are not going on facts.
Do you see what you are doing?
You are running with a perception that is not based on facts, but rather on a myth that the food and drug industries have perpetuated for their good and our harm.
Sound familiar to another situation we are both on the same page about?
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[FONT="] Of course, how ever it is not hard to advoid most of those. If someone really wants to they can live a perfectly healthy life off fruits, ventables, non-processed meats and natural carbs.
Of course they can, if they KNEW this is what they HAD to do, if they KNEW they were being fed a pack of lies about heavily processed foods, If they can afford them -It is a simple fact of life that the poorer you are, the harder it is to eat the right foods. My grocery bill has gone up considerably since changing how I eat. I can no longer shop the sales on foods we used to eat. Produce prices flucuate hugely here during the year. The foods that are good for us are more expensive than those that are not.
We dont need the processed foods, we dont need the articifacal add ins
of course everyone likes them.
Of course this is true .. but the issue is not do we need them or not, but the DAMAGE THEY DO, and how this information has been hidden from the public at large, how they have been sold a bill of goods, lies and deceptions by the Food and Drug Industries that has created this mess.
It is about first knowledge of how these foods are making people fat, making them sick, and killing them.
Then it is about cost, why these foods are so much cheaper and easier to buy, why eating right is so much more expensive. . . .
I do not suggest we get rid of them,
I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They are killing us.
Why not suggest we get rid of them???????
I simply think that people should be able to display some self control.
You are running on assumptions again .. . .
The reason people have big middles are because they put on brown fat, a deadly fat, and it comes from the foods they eat, the indgredients, not so much how much.
This fat creates insulin which is inflammatory. This fat itself is inflammatory . . it just goes on and on and on . . .
I see people in the grocery store in the line up standing there obviously overweight, with children that are over weight and they are loading Soda, Chips, Ice cream, foods with high amounts of trans fats, fryed foods, processed foods
What is their knowledge of such foods?
And such foods are addiciting, and they have purposefully been made so by the FOOD Industry . . . the chemicals in them, many times hidden under the term 'natural flavorings', have effects on the brain which makes people start to crave them.
these are the people I speak of because they are induldeing their desires not making any attempt to moderate their intake. [/FONT]
You have no idea what is going on inside of them or what they are doing.
God looks first on the heart before judging our actions.
I will say the same to you I have said to many others .. .
Are you able to look into their heart and read their hearts? Are you able to look into their soul and see what God sees?
If not, you have no right to usurp God's place and judge their actions and accuse them intentionally sinning.
Remember, the scriptures tell us that we will be judged as we judge others.
If we judge on superficial appearances, then God will judge us on superficial appearances and ignore what is in our hearts . ..
Is that what you want God to do? Do you want God to judge you guilty of sin simply because something you did gave the appearance of sin?
Or do you want God to look in your heart first and judge your actions by what He finds there?
Do you understand the implications of what you are doing?
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