How Churches of the Reformation members will be unprepared and lose eternal life.

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Some people even those who know what the Spirit of Prophecy teaches, feel and believe that whatever "Christian" church you belong to doesnt matter as everyone who is a "christian" will be saved regardless of the doctrines or belief's they follow. Is that true? If you follow a false doctrine will it matter when it comes to eternal life?

We have the false doctrine of dispensationalism, so lets take a look:

"Question: "What is dispensationalism and is it biblical?"

Answer:
A dispensation is a way of ordering things—an administration, a system, or a management. In theology, a dispensation is the divine administration of a period of time; each dispensation is a divinely appointed age. Dispensationalism is a theological system that recognizes these ages ordained by God to order the affairs of the world.

Dispensational theology teaches that there are two distinct peoples of God: Israel and the Church. Dispensationalists believe that salvation has always been by grace through faith alone—in God in the Old Testament and specifically in God the Son in the New Testament. Dispensationalists hold that the Church has not replaced Israel in God’s program and that the Old Testament promises to Israel have not been transferred to the Church. Dispensationalism teaches that the promises God made to Israel in the Old Testament (for land, many descendants, and blessings) will be ultimately fulfilled in the 1000-year period spoken of in Revelation 20. Dispensationalists believe that, just as God is in this age focusing His attention on the Church, He will again in the future focus His attention on Israel (see Romans 9–11 and Daniel 9:24).

Dispensationalists understand the Bible to be organized into seven dispensations: Innocence (Genesis 1:1—3:7), Conscience (Genesis 3:8—8:22), Human Government (Genesis 9:1—11:32), Promise (Genesis 12:1Exodus 19:25), Law (Exodus 20:1Acts 2:4), Grace (Acts 2:4Revelation 20:3), and the Millennial Kingdom (Revelation 20:4–6). Again, these dispensations are not paths to salvation, but manners in which God relates to man....

Dispensationalism, as a system, results in a premillennial interpretation of Christ’s second coming and usually a pretribulational interpretation of the rapture..."What is dispensationalism and is it biblical? | GotQuestions.org

"premillennialism came to the United States following the Civil War, after flourishing in Britain among the Plymouth Brethren. One of the Brethren's most gifted teachers was John Nelson Darby (1800-1882), a former priest in the Anglican Church of Ireland, who developed a new variety of futurist premillennialism. He called it dispensationalism, after the division of history into dispensations or eras.

"These periods are marked off in Scripture by some change in God's method of dealing with mankind, in respect to two questions: of sin, and of man's responsibility," explained C. I. Scofield, who popularized Darby's system in America. "Each of the dispensations may be regarded as a new test of the natural man, and each ends in judgment—marking his utter failure in every dispensation."

Dispensationalists quibbled over the number and names of the dispensations, but most American dispensationalists followed Scofield's seven-fold scheme: Innocency (before the Fall), Conscience (Fall to the Flood), Human Government, Promise (Abraham to Moses), Law (Moses to Christ), Grace (the church age), and Kingdom (the millennium).

There was nothing especially radical about dividing history into periods. What separated dispensationalists from everybody else was their novel method of biblical interpretation..."

So this method just muddles the history of the church, Gods people, into ages and denies the 1000 years of the Millennium applies to Christians, but Israel.

How about the church doctrine that these days has become to be known as the doctrine of the 'Secret Rapture' or simply known as the Rapture. The devil has institutionalized this false doctrine and it has been nearly universally accepted as truth. Many churches are letting this doctrine walk in their doors with no test or challenge to it's scriptural validity. The media has pushed it with many books and radio and TV shows and programs that have its belief as a premise. Unless this false doctrine of the 'Secret Rapture' is exposed and rejected it will effectively override the truth and lend itself to confusion about last day events.

Those who teach the Secret Rapture believe the coming of Jesus will be in two separate events. First, He will come secretly to take the church to heaven, and then, years later, He will come in an open demonstration of power and glory. In between those two events, they believe the Antichrist is supposed to come into power, and during that time the 'Great Tribulation' period will take place. The Rapture doctrine teaches that Jesus will save people in both of these comings. In other words, if you don't get saved at the secret coming, you can be saved in the second. Thus the second coming is blended with this idea of some people disappearing and secretly being wisked to heaven, which can easily be used by Satan as part of his subterfuge to trick those who follow this doctrine by claiming it had occured or make it appear that some people were gone, then show himself at the appointed '7 years' and claim he is 'christ'. Those who believe in this false doctrine will have no choice but declare that he is the 'christ'.

Here is a good explanation of the secret rapture by Professor Walter J. Veith in this excerpt from 'Healing of the Wound':

"...To meet the challenge and exposure of the Papacy as the Antichrist and the Pope as the "son of perdition", the Jesuits were summoned to counter the reformers' teachings, and here two Jesuit scholars stand out in particular. They are Alcasar and Ribera, and they developed the Preterist and Futurist systems of prophetic interpretation. The Preterist interpretation puts all prophecy pertaining to the Antichrist into the past (persecutors outside the Jewish or Christian religion), and the Futurist interpretation puts them into the future - after the Christian dispensation and the Secret Rapture. Ribera published his futurist views in 1585.

According to the Futurist view, the Antichrist was to come from the tribe of Dan, and would make his appearance after the secret rapture. He was to rebuild the temple, abolish the Christian faith, pretend to be God and then conquer the world in the space of three-and-a-half years. Furthermore, Futurism teaches that, instead of coming with the clouds with great power and great glory, our Saviour will come secretly and silently to take away his Church - a teaching foreign to that of the apostles.
"For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trump of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we ever be with the Lord." I Thessalonians 4:16,17.
The apostles referred to the spirit of antichrist already working in their time, to be fully revealed at the end of time. There is no question of referring to the antichrist power in the past. Jesus in Matthew 24 speaks of this great apostasy as a future event, not a past occurrence.

In the nineteenth century, the Protestant world, starting with the Anglican priest Samuel R. Maitland, accepted the futurist teachings and saw in it an opportunity to cease hostilities with Rome.

The prophetic interpretation of Futurism was further refined, when, according to S.P. Tregelles, dispensationalism originated in an "utterance" by means of tongues in Edward Irving's church in England. The Futurist dispensationalistic mode of prophetic interpretation has been accepted by most Protestant churches today, and is the form of interpretation employed in the Scofield Reference Bible. (D.F. Neufield, Ministry, July 1978)..."

The churches of the Reformation that pick up this doctrine are playing right into the devils trap to confuse the events at the second coming. The main theme seems to be that no matter what you will get multiple chances at being saved so any spiritual issues can somehow be resolved if you dont make it at first. Many who believe this doctrine feel they will have plenty of time to make things right, all they have to do is wait till they see people disappear at 'rapture' and adjust their behaviour for the next "round" of salvation.

Here are the 'pillars of belief' that the Rapture stands on:



Pillar 1 ; The Rapture, when the Church is 'caught up' (1 Thessalonians 4:17), does not take place at the visible Second Coming of Jesus Christ, but seven years before it.
Pillar 2 ; Those who miss the Rapture will have a second chance during the seven years of Tribulation to be saved.
Pillar 3 ; The true Church of today will escape the Tribulation and will not have to face the Antichrist and the Mark.

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Satan will also be active at that time, working signs and miracles so as, if possible, to deceive the very elect or the remnant. Through the false doctrines and beliefs which he has developed in various fallen churches he will do much to fool the people at the end times. Ellen White had this to say:

"We need not be deceived. Wonderful scenes, with which Satan will be closely connected, will soon take place. God’s Word declares that Satan will work miracles. He will make people sick, and then will suddenly remove from them his satanic power. They will then be regarded as healed. These works of apparent healing will bring Seventh-day Adventists to the test. Many who have had great light will fail to walk in the light, because they have not become one with Christ." Selected Messages, bk. 2, p. 53.

"The lukewarm and indifferent condition prevailing among many will prepare the way for the deceptive work of the evil one. May the Lord help us that none of those who belong to God’s remnant people may be deceived. We should pray for a daily baptism of the former rain, so that we may be ready to receive more abundantly the powerfully blessed showers of the latter rain, the last rain poured out upon God’s remnant church. "The gift of His Holy Spirit, rich, full, and abundant, is to be to His church as an encompassing wall of fire, which the powers of hell shall not prevail against." In Heavenly Places, p. 282.

The true doctrine of the second coming that scripture shows us and Spirit of Prophecy teaches is to prepare us for the "false christs" and Satans final moves to trick those who are unprepared and to deceive the unknowing and those who have not understanding of the last day events. Many will fall into the elaberate trap as Satan will work miracles of all kinds, and will place before them so many distractions, that without a firm understanding of the endtimes events, they will be deceived...
 
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Some people even those who know what the Spirit of Prophecy teaches, feel and believe that whatever "Christian" church you belong to doesnt matter as everyone who is a "christian" will be saved regardless of the doctrines or belief's they follow. Is that true? If you follow a false doctrine will it matter when it comes to eternal life?


How about the church doctrine that these days has become to be known as the doctrine of the 'Secret Rapture' or simply known as the Rapture. The devil has institutionalized this false doctrine and it has been nearly universally accepted as truth. Many churches are letting this doctrine walk in their doors with no test or challenge to it's scriptural validity. The media has pushed it with many books and radio and TV shows and programs that have its belief as a premise. Unless this false doctrine of the 'Secret Rapture' is exposed and rejected it will effectively override the truth and lend itself to confusion about last day events.

Those who teach the Secret Rapture believe the coming of Jesus will be in two separate events. First, He will come secretly to take the church to heaven, and then, years later, He will come in an open demonstration of power and glory. In between those two events, they believe the Antichrist is supposed to come into power, and during that time the 'Great Tribulation' period will take place. The Rapture doctrine teaches that Jesus will save people in both of these comings. In other words, if you don't get saved at the secret coming, you can be saved in the second. Thus the second coming is blended with this idea of some people disappearing and secretly being wisked to heaven, which can easily be used by Satan as part of his subterfuge to trick those who follow this doctrine by claiming it had occured or make it appear that some people were gone, then show himself at the appointed '7 years' and claim he is 'christ'. Those who believe in this false doctrine will have no choice but declare that he is the 'christ'.

Here is a good explanation of the secret rapture by Professor Walter J. Veith in this excerpt from 'Healing of the Wound':

"...To meet the challenge and exposure of the Papacy as the Antichrist and the Pope as the "son of perdition", the Jesuits were summoned to counter the reformers' teachings, and here two Jesuit scholars stand out in particular. They are Alcasar and Ribera, and they developed the Preterist and Futurist systems of prophetic interpretation. The Preterist interpretation puts all prophecy pertaining to the Antichrist into the past (persecutors outside the Jewish or Christian religion), and the Futurist interpretation puts them into the future - after the Christian dispensation and the Secret Rapture. Ribera published his futurist views in 1585.




According to the Futurist view, the Antichrist was to come from the tribe of Dan, and would make his appearance after the secret rapture. He was to rebuild the temple, abolish the Christian faith, pretend to be God and then conquer the world in the space of three-and-a-half years. Furthermore, Futurism teaches that, instead of coming with the clouds with great power and great glory, our Saviour will come secretly and silently to take away his Church - a teaching foreign to that of the apostles.
"For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trump of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we ever be with the Lord." I Thessalonians 4:16,17.
The apostles referred to the spirit of antichrist already working in their time, to be fully revealed at the end of time. There is no question of referring to the antichrist power in the past. Jesus in Matthew 24 speaks of this great apostasy as a future event, not a past occurrence.

In the nineteenth century, the Protestant world, starting with the Anglican priest Samuel R. Maitland, accepted the futurist teachings and saw in it an opportunity to cease hostilities with Rome.

The prophetic interpretation of Futurism was further refined, when, according to S.P. Tregelles, dispensationalism originated in an "utterance" by means of tongues in Edward Irving's church in England. The Futurist dispensationalistic mode of prophetic interpretation has been accepted by most Protestant churches today, and is the form of interpretation employed in the Scofield Reference Bible. (D.F. Neufield, Ministry, July 1978)..."

The churches of the Reformation that pick up this doctrine are playing right into the devils trap to confuse the events at the second coming. The main theme seems to be that no matter what you will get multiple chances at being saved so any spiritual issues can somehow be resolved if you dont make it at first. Many who believe this doctrine feel they will have plenty of time to make things right, all they have to do is wait till they see people disappear at 'rapture' and adjust their behaviour for the next "round" of salvation.

Here are the 'pillars of belief' that the Rapture stands on:



Pillar 1 – The Rapture, when the Church is “caught up” (1 Thessalonians 4:17), does not take place at the visible Second Coming of Jesus Christ, but seven years before it.
Pillar 2 – Those who miss the Rapture will have a second chance during the seven years of Tribulation to be saved.
Pillar 3– The true Church of today will escape the Tribulation and will not have to face the Antichrist and the Mark.

http://www.adventistreview.org/2001-1513/story5.html


Satan will also be active at that time, working signs and miracles so as, if possible, to deceive the very elect or the remnant. Through the false doctrines and beliefs which he has developed in various fallen churches he will do much to fool the people at the end times. Ellen White had this to say:

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"We need not be deceived. Wonderful scenes, with which Satan will be closely connected, will soon take place. God’s Word declares that Satan will work miracles. He will make people sick, and then will suddenly remove from them his satanic power. They will then be regarded as healed. These works of apparent healing will bring Seventh-day Adventists to the test. Many who have had great light will fail to walk in the light, because they have not become one with Christ." Selected Messages, bk. 2, p. 53.[/FONT]


[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The lukewarm and indifferent condition prevailing among many will prepare the way for the deceptive work of the evil one. May the Lord help us that none of those who belong to God’s remnant people may be deceived. We should pray for a daily baptism of the former rain, so that we may be ready to receive more abundantly the powerfully blessed showers of the latter rain, the last rain poured out upon God’s remnant church. "The gift of His Holy Spirit, rich, full, and abundant, is to be to His church as an encompassing wall of fire, which the powers of hell shall not prevail against." In Heavenly Places, p. 282.[/FONT]




The true doctrine of the second coming that scripture shows us and Spirit of Prophecy teaches is to prepare us for the "false christs" and Satans final moves to trick those who are unprepared and to deceive the unknowing and those who have not understanding of the last day events. Many will fall into the elaberate trap as Satan will work miracles of all kinds, and will place before them so many distractions, that without a firm understanding of the endtimes events, they will be deceived...

At first I thought you were going to say that non Adventists would not go to heaven, but now I get your point. I guess that can deceive some people, but as far as I know most Christians who believe in the rapture want to be raptured and don't want to go through the tribulation. The whole rapture thing is a piece of crud, but I don't think it prevents thaaat many people from not confessing their sins. It can deceive some people though into just thinking that they will get a second chance, but those are the people who will not get to heaven no matter what demonation they are in. What if they die before this "rapture" takes place, if they thought that would happen they would have repented their sins already. Those people are the ones who just don't really care.
 
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At first I thought you were going to say that non Adventists would not go to heaven, but now I get your point. I guess that can deceive some people, but as far as I know most Christians who believe in the rapture want to be raptured and don't want to go through the tribulation. The whole rapture thing is a piece of crud, but I don't think it prevents thaaat many people from not confessing their sins. It can deceive some people though into just thinking that they will get a second chance, but those are the people who will not get to heaven no matter what demonation they are in. What if they die before this "rapture" takes place, if they thought that would happen they would have repented their sins already. Those people are the ones who just don't really care.

I try to think through my titles as if I put the 'false doctrine of the Secret Rapture' it doesnt really awake people to what the purpose of false doctrine is that Satan spreads, to keep us from eternal life..........
 
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