It´s not intended to work that way. There are two sorts of fora on CF: Christian Only an Open To All Members. Since in the Christians Only fora only Christians are allowed to post, and in the Open To All Members everybody is allowed and invited to post, your point is moot. If anything, you could criticize the owners for a (by your way of looking at it) misleading tree.
No what I am criticizing the owner/creators for is placing in the MAIN banner of the website the words: "Christian Forum "S" implying more than one Christian Forum for the purpose of : "Uniting all "HELLO" "CHRIST"IANS {NOT PEOPLE, HUMANS] into ONE BODY.
This is the Promotional Banner on the HOME page. It's then is FULL of Jesus and Religious links
Therefore, I question "WHY" the owners created "atheist" icons or even any SUB forum accommodating them.
Plus, "Christian Forums" does not necessarily imply that it´s only for Christians.
It is made by Christians in the Christian Spirit, and it is for everybody. That´s the intention of the owners. Get over it.
Now see if you can follow OK? The very word "Christ"ian means "of the man JESUS CHRIST" CF FORUM"S* should NOT bare the name of a forum as you put it if it does not as you put it "imply" that it's "only" for "Christ"IANS.
Moreover, Created in the "Christ"ian spirit implies : the "Spirit" that was in the man CHRIST....which Spirit Atheist don't even believe EXIST.
Now if you are a declared "seeking" atheist or "questioning" atheist then that would make sense.
Humanism accommodates ALL faiths including and especially atheism to bring "freedom" as they see it from religious thought.
THAT WAS NEVER IN THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST.....HE "WAS" RELIGIOUS.
Conclusion: Any "spirit" of the man CHRIST [Christian Spirit] is by NATURE........RELIGIOUS AND THEIST
Why, do you think, icons for atheists, agnostics and all sorts of religions are available on a website if it is intended to be only for Christians? Doesn´t make sense, eh?
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No it doesn't...the very point I am making.
However, it makes PERFECT sense if:
1) The site creators and monitors are REALLY Humanistic (as many who think they are Christian truly are) or "gulp" even Pagan !
OR
2) Christians/Chris(?)ians who are trying to "segregate" or herd or exile those annoying anti-Christian people who come into Christian Forums with none-Christian agendas into a sub forum to keep them away from Christians/Chris(?)ians so they won't have to constantly defend what they believe---genius huh? also deceptive
And I would suggest you abstain from making the rules on a website that isn´t yours.
Mrreal4two, please remember that your faith is just your opinion. To claim it to be the TRUTH is beyond your ability to show.
You declared my life-long faith "opinion" and that I MUST remember that. then you turn right around and state:
However, if you are asking why, generally, I post here, the answer is to defend my rights and the rights of others from those who would presume to impose their religions onto others.
Was not your initial dig that initiated this dialog an "opinion" about what "I" believe "imposed" upon "ME"?..........YE atheist hypocrites!
It prevents me from cognitive dissonance.
Thank you for the kindness of answering my question....I accept that explaination. However: My faith does not create "cognitive dissonance" for me so if it would do so for you, then atheist may be the best way for you to live and believe.
I am working from the assumption that people on a discussion board are here for discussion, and I expect people in an "open to all members" forum to be interested in my opinion just as I am in theirs.
If this were so, you would not have posted:
Mrreal4two, please remember that your faith is just your opinion. To claim it to be the TRUTH is beyond your ability to show.
Conversation, communication, mutual understanding.
Ah! now here is the my REAL . Since "membership" in this particular CF forum web site is "open to all" without questioning whether they are believers or not, The owners intentions must be one of the 2 that I spoke of above.
If you don´t want to be exposed to non-Christian opinions, stay in the Christians Only section. That´s why there is a Christians Only section. It´s as simple as that.
Since you initiated our dialog with...
Mrreal4two, please remember that your faith is just your opinion. To claim it to be the TRUTH is beyond your ability to show.
Now in your arrogance you forget it was YOU that addressed ME first with that personal dig ....seems to me it's YOU as an atheist who don't want to be exposed to "my" opinions.....in light of "your"
opinions that is LOL
Moreover REAL "Chist"ianity is a following of the "teachings" of a historical figure namely Yeshuah [Jesus] Christ of Nazareth Israel.
Since
CHRIST [LORD of the CHRISTIANS] historically taught:
John 18:37
Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the [HELLO]" TRUTH". Every one that is of the [HELLO]"TRUTH" heareth my voice[The VERY definition of [HELLO]"CHRIST"IAN].
CHRIST of the word CHRISTIAN talked about TRUTH constantly.....
Why shouldn't HIS followers? HE is the one that declared it TRUTH in the first place
Pseudo-Christians do not promote Christ's teachings but "Humanistic an Humanitarian" views that are common to both Christ AND many other Sages down through the years and Atheist.
It´s not intended to work that way.
How do you know this....Are you one of the creators of the site?
I would not be surprised as many of these so-called Christian [Chris(?)ian] Forums are not "Christ"ian AT ALL otherwise they would promote Christ teachings and discussions about it and NONE OTHER.
They take some humanitarian verses from the ministry of Christ to mean that Christ promoted a "humanist" approach to others. They have a "socially and politically correct" gospel and not that of "the historical figure--the man Christ".
Bottom line:
1) I think you have the "right" to speak out as an atheistic person, the dialog is always healthy and needed.
2) Maybe this sub forum should not be a part of the collection of "Christ"ian Forums, but a part of a stand-alone independent Ethics and Morality Open Forum. But I realize that will not happen nor was ever intended if one of the two previous conditions exist here at CF"S"
3) It is NOT my intention to "show" my statements to atheist to be TRUTH. It is a personal experience NONE - TRANSFERABLE like imperical knowledge (science) is by definition.
4) My beef is NOT particularly with you [if you are not the owner/controller] but the creators/owners of the web-site
creating place for those who are of the spirit of anti-Christ under an entire Web-Site baring CHRIST's name.
1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father[GOD-THEISM-A DIETY]and the Son.
1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
AND YES, I AM aware that this Biblical Quote is "OPINION" to an atheist but IS NOT to a "CHRIST"ian or even the claim of a "CHRIS(?)ian and especially not "BIBLE"ans. IF AND ONLY IF one of these OWNS, CREATED, or MODERATES this website: C(?)F then THEY would know that giving place to icons/people/and opinions of non-theist is UNLAWFUL allowing place for CHRIST to be persecuted in this cyber-community by anti-christ/anti-"christ"ian.
FINALLY a REQUEST:
So that we can allow this thread to get back to the issue of the morality of homosexual "love". Please respond to me if you need in PM and I will do likewise for you.....I will no longer post to you here except with the letters SEE PM if in defiance ( a typical expected atheist behavior)...you are not
sensitive to this request.