OldShepherd
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Originally posted by El Pobre
What are you hiding Oldshepherd? Why didn't you include in here what your reference ACTUALLY thought about verse 6?
I am hiding absolutely nothing, I posted a link to my source, so everyone can verify what I say, so this question is a false accusation. If you have any direct evidence that I have misquoted or hidden anything please post it, show what you falsely claim I am hiding.
The footnote for Heb. 1:8 indicates that this verse was lifted from Psalm 45:6. Your reference does NOT show that Psalm 45:6 was indeed rendered as "Thy throne O God."
False accusation, I did notsay that it did!
Previously posted by OS: Since you claim that Hebrew chap. 1, relies on falsely translated scriptures perhaps you can tell us how the Qumran and Dead Sea Scrolls record these passages.
Again, you are NOT telling the TRUTH. Show our readers where I CLAIMED that Hebrews chap. 1 was falsely translated. One who is "educated" must be careful when discussing important matters such as this.
Here is the link to your previous post, 24th August 2002 04:54 AM.
http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=21028&perpage=10&pagenumber=4
Jesus was NEVER called "mighty God and everlasting Father." Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence! If we use your criteria then we would have to say that Jesus never went to the bathroom, took a bath, or changed clothes because it is never recorded in the Bible.
Any Jim Jones or David Koresh can say words and passages in the Bible are mistranslated and give their opinion what they think it means but since you mocked my training and scholarship then I would like to see some real exegesis of the scripture.
What are you hiding Oldshepherd? Why didn't you include in here what your reference ACTUALLY thought about verse 6?
I am hiding absolutely nothing, I posted a link to my source, so everyone can verify what I say, so this question is a false accusation. If you have any direct evidence that I have misquoted or hidden anything please post it, show what you falsely claim I am hiding.
The footnote for Heb. 1:8 indicates that this verse was lifted from Psalm 45:6. Your reference does NOT show that Psalm 45:6 was indeed rendered as "Thy throne O God."
False accusation, I did notsay that it did!
Previously posted by OS: Since you claim that Hebrew chap. 1, relies on falsely translated scriptures perhaps you can tell us how the Qumran and Dead Sea Scrolls record these passages.
Again, you are NOT telling the TRUTH. Show our readers where I CLAIMED that Hebrews chap. 1 was falsely translated. One who is "educated" must be careful when discussing important matters such as this.
Here is the link to your previous post, 24th August 2002 04:54 AM.
http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=21028&perpage=10&pagenumber=4
So who is telling the truth and who is making false accusations? I ask my question again, more specifically. Since you claim to that Psalm 45:6 is definitely mistranslated and Isaiah 9:6 is possibly mistranslated or an unfulfilled prophecy, you must have some expertise in the Hebrew language, so please translate the Bible passage I posted, in Hebrew, in my previous post. And since I am convinced that you cannot do it, then post an exegesis of that passage by any Iglesia Ni Christo scholar. By exegesis, I dont mean someone just saying what they think the Hebrew means but a full locating of all the words, whether they are Pual, Hithpael, etc, perfect or imperfect, etc.Posted by El Pobre
Heb. 1:8 was LIFTED from a MISTRANSLATED version of Psalm 45:6 The Hebrew writer did NOT talk to God about God's Son. Heb. 1:1-2 teaches that God in various times spoke to our fathers by the prophets has in these last days spoke to us by His SON. Thus, the only way the Hebrew writer knew anything about what God said is by lifting it from the Old Testament.
Isaiah 9:6 is either a prophecy that did NOT come true or a MISTRANSLATION which CONTRADICTS known and accepted TRUTHS about Jesus. If this were an accurate translation, then Isaiah's prophecy did NOT come true. Jesus was NEVER called "mighty God and everlasting Father."
Jesus said he is a MAN (John 8:40). His apostles TAUGHT that Jesus is a MAN (Acts 2:22; Acts 17:31; 1 Tim. 2:5). Jesus taught that the FATHER is the ONLY true God (John 17:3). Jesus COMMANDED his disciples not to call anyone on earth Father for ONE is their Father, He who is in heaven (Matt. 23:9).
Jesus was NEVER called "mighty God and everlasting Father." Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence! If we use your criteria then we would have to say that Jesus never went to the bathroom, took a bath, or changed clothes because it is never recorded in the Bible.
Any Jim Jones or David Koresh can say words and passages in the Bible are mistranslated and give their opinion what they think it means but since you mocked my training and scholarship then I would like to see some real exegesis of the scripture.
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