oh yeah and they didn't have too much to bear either. It must be some other reason that they end their life.
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NO, I believe that people abandon God.
That they chose their own will. And the consequences of sowing in the flesh is destruction in the flesh.
That they chose their own will. And the consequences of sowing in the flesh is destruction in the flesh.
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LouisBooth
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"NO, I believe that people abandon God. "
Exactly, so they refuse the protection God offers them 100% of the time
Exactly, so they refuse the protection God offers them 100% of the time
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If you remain under the shadow of the Almighty then you are sowin after the spirit and reap the blessings of God. If you don't then you reap after the flesh, this is were the curse abides.
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And because they don't have the protection of God then bad things can happen to them.Originally posted by LouisBooth
"NO, I believe that people abandon God. "
Exactly, so they refuse the protection God offers them 100% of the time
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LouisBooth
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*sigh* no no..LOL. If you're a christian you're never under the "curse of the law" again. snup, please read romans.
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why would Paul warn the Galatians or even mention being under the curse if it is something that they would never have to worry about.
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Originally posted by LouisBooth
"NO, I believe that people abandon God. "
Exactly, so they refuse the protection God offers them 100% of the time
I thought that you said they could not lose the protection of God.
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"I thought that you said they could not lose the protection of God."
Nope, you can't. Can you loose God's love?
Nope, you can't. Can you loose God's love?
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LouisBooth
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"If they refuse pertection then their is a loss."
Exactly, thanks for proving my point.
Exactly, thanks for proving my point.
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Originally posted by LouisBooth
"If they refuse pertection then their is a loss."
Exactly, thanks for proving my point.
there is a loss of pertection, the very thing that you said that they could not lose.
It looks like you have no point because you keep contradicting yourself.
Why don't you explain to us what you mean in a way that we can understand.
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"there is a loss of pertection, the very thing that you said that they could not lose."
You can refuse it, that's a little different in this case of loosing it.
God's protection is always on a christian. Now 1. how you definate protection matters and 2. you can refuse it
You can refuse it, that's a little different in this case of loosing it.
God's protection is always on a christian. Now 1. how you definate protection matters and 2. you can refuse it
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I agree, maybe he does have a cold heart to God in this area. I'll be praying for him, as I will for you snup
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Your prayers would be much appreciated. Is a cold heart and a closed heart the same thing? What do you think?
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That depends on how you approach it. But you could always post you answer in the other thread that it would more closely relate.
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Dear Andrew,
The law in Deut. 28 was given to the Jews.
The general curse of the law though is for all that are under it. Since the Gentiles did not have the written codified law [Deut. 28] they were not specifically cursed by it. Rather they lived under the law of sowing and reaping.
This law by the way includes a couple of related things. First, if you break any part of the law you break the whole law. Little white lies or murder made you a lawbreaker and subject to every curse. The major curse is spiritual death and separation from God. If you are under law, you are not under grace which means you are not under the blood which means you are damned. Only by the graciousness of God through Jesus can you be saved from being under law and damnation.
Since Jesus died for ALL of your sins, then ALL of your sins are covered by the blood when you are baptized into His death and raised in new life in the spirit. Since you then are forever and never under the law [you cant break it you are dead to it]. Read the story about the woman who is bound to her husband as long as he is alive. Once there is death, there is no more contract, there isnt any binding.
Read again in Galatians how we are free from the law. How are we free? By Jesus and what He has done for us. We didnt set ourselves free, we died to the law when we died with Him. He set us free and whom the Son sets free is free indeed.
But one can be legally free of something YET still be bound to it out of ignorance to the truth of the situation. That is why we need to KNOW the truth for it to set us free. We can live like we are still bound to our dead spouse even though we are legally, and morally not. So we can put ourselves under the law by our attitude but not in Gods eyes [or the devils] but in our eyes.
In Jesus alone,
mike
The law in Deut. 28 was given to the Jews.
The general curse of the law though is for all that are under it. Since the Gentiles did not have the written codified law [Deut. 28] they were not specifically cursed by it. Rather they lived under the law of sowing and reaping.
This law by the way includes a couple of related things. First, if you break any part of the law you break the whole law. Little white lies or murder made you a lawbreaker and subject to every curse. The major curse is spiritual death and separation from God. If you are under law, you are not under grace which means you are not under the blood which means you are damned. Only by the graciousness of God through Jesus can you be saved from being under law and damnation.
Since Jesus died for ALL of your sins, then ALL of your sins are covered by the blood when you are baptized into His death and raised in new life in the spirit. Since you then are forever and never under the law [you cant break it you are dead to it]. Read the story about the woman who is bound to her husband as long as he is alive. Once there is death, there is no more contract, there isnt any binding.
Read again in Galatians how we are free from the law. How are we free? By Jesus and what He has done for us. We didnt set ourselves free, we died to the law when we died with Him. He set us free and whom the Son sets free is free indeed.
But one can be legally free of something YET still be bound to it out of ignorance to the truth of the situation. That is why we need to KNOW the truth for it to set us free. We can live like we are still bound to our dead spouse even though we are legally, and morally not. So we can put ourselves under the law by our attitude but not in Gods eyes [or the devils] but in our eyes.
In Jesus alone,
mike
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