Mary was a Jewish woman.

ScottBot · Feb 21, 2007

FrauleinElsa said:
The mother of Jesus, who was God also but she was not the mother of God. It sounds like you're saying that she is responsible for God the Father's existence. Jesus is God but not commonly known as God. When you say God it's commonly recognized that you mean the Father, not Jesus. That's how it's possible to distinguish between the two.

Is your mother your creator? Is she your source of origin?

Your mother is the mother of YOU, but God is your creator.

Mary is the mother of the whole Jesus, therefore making her the mother of GOd. This does not mean that she pre-exists God, nor is she the source of God. You cannot separate out Jesus' divinity from His humanity without reducing what He is.

ScottBot · Feb 21, 2007

LittleLambofJesus said:
Hi. The Jew's Messiah had to be a descendant of Solomon's son of whom was given One Tribe, the Tribe of Judah.
I am reckoning that is only through the Cross that Israel and Judah can become One Nation as the Lord Jesus is now the Sceptre of Israel instead of Judah. Hope that helps.

1 Kings 12:21 And when Rehoboam came to Jerusalem, he assembled all the house of Judah with the tribe of Benjamin, one hundred and eighty thousand chosen [men] who were warriors, to fight against the house of Israel, that he might restore the kingdom to Rehoboam the son of Solomon.

TheCosmicGospel · Feb 21, 2007

Renton405 said:
Remember that the virgin mary appeared to Saint Catherine Labouré and told her to write a medal that said : "O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee"

1. Maybe she didn't hear Mary clear enough.

2. So you also think the Tablets of Moroni are a real poissiblity?

3. Maybe apparitions don't tell the truth as to invent new spiritual lies.

4. Could all be a trap. How would we know? At this rate, one superstition becomes as valid as anyother. It is easy to doubt faith. It is much harder to doubt superstitions.

LittleLambofJesus · Feb 21, 2007

Amor Vincit Omnia said:

Perhaps the CC needs to focus on the Old Testament a little more instead of the Mary so much. :wave:

http://www.christianforums.com/t4559751-revelation-a-jewish-polemic-book.html
-revelation-a-jewish-polemic-book

(NKJV) Deuteronomy 4:11 "Then you came near and stood at the foot of the mountain, and the Mountain burned with fire to the midst of heaven, with darkness, cloud, and thick darkness.

Out with the Old:

(NKJV) Revelation 8:8 Then the second angel sounded: And [something] like a great Mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood.

ScottBot · Feb 21, 2007

LittleLambofJesus said:
Perhaps the CC needs to focus on the Old Testament a little more instead of the Mary so much.

http://www.christianforums.com/t4559751-revelation-a-jewish-polemic-book.html
-revelation-a-jewish-polemic-book

(NKJV) Deuteronomy 4:11 "Then you came near and stood at the foot of the mountain, and the Mountain burned with fire to the midst of heaven, with darkness, cloud, and thick darkness.

Out with the Old:

(NKJV) Revelation 8:8 Then the second angel sounded: And [something] like a great Mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood.

You're right. I'll get a memo up to the Pope ASAP.

LittleLambofJesus · Feb 21, 2007

Amor Vincit Omnia said:
You're right. I'll get a memo up to the Pope ASAP.

And better translations also please. Thanks.

Malachi 2:1 "And now, O priests, this commandment is for you. 2 If you will not hear, And if you will not take [it] to heart, To give glory to My name,"

Reve 11:2 and the Court/f, the without of the Sanctuary/m, be ye Casting Out!! out-side, and thou mayest not be measuring it/her,

ScottBot · Feb 21, 2007

LittleLambofJesus said:
And better translations also please. Thanks.

Malachi 2:1 "And now, O priests, this commandment is for you. 2 If you will not hear, And if you will not take [it] to heart, To give glory to My name,"

Reve 11:2 and the Court/f, the without of the Sanctuary/m, be ye Casting Out!! out-side, and thou mayest not be measuring it/her,

Anything else while I'm still in draft?

How about a concordance of completely unrelated Scripture passages?

[bible]job 5:4[/bible]
[bible]Hebrews 7:13[/bible]

LittleLambofJesus · Feb 21, 2007

Amor Vincit Omnia said:
Anything else while I'm still in draft?

How about a concordance of completely unrelated Scripture passages?

[bible]job 5:4[/bible]
[bible]Hebrews 7:13[/bible]

I like the book of Job. :wave:

(NKJV) Job 15:34 For the company of hypocrites [will be] barren, And fire will consume the tents of bribery.

Matt 23:33 "Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of the gehenna? 38 "See! Your house is left to you desolate;

ScottBot · Feb 21, 2007

My personal favorite bible verse is in the book of Job

[bible]job 3:2[/bible]

chickenutbread · Feb 21, 2007

so.. uhh. what's the point of this post?

LittleLambofJesus · Feb 21, 2007

Amor Vincit Omnia said:
My personal favorite bible verse is in the book of Job

[bible]job 3:2[/bible]

Hi. Job uses that Hebrew word for "hypocrites" more times than any other book. I found that interesting in relation to the ones Jesus railed against in the NT.
I guess that is why I brought it up.

chaneph (Strong's 02611) occurs 13 times in 13 verses:
2611 chaneph khaw-nafe' from 2610; soiled (i.e. with sin), impious:-- hypocrite(-ical).

(NKJV) Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; Fearfulness has seized the hypocrites: "Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? Who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?"

WarriorAngel · Feb 21, 2007

LittleLambofJesus said:
Hi. How do you know that? Can the Pope interpret or translate the Bible any better than any other minister or preacher in a denomination outside the catholic church?

Matthew 21:43 "Therefore I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.

Reve 12:7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael [Daniel 12] and his messengers fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his messengers fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place/ topoV <5117> found for them in Heaven any longer.

Could YOU explain why you brought up those WHO rejected the corner stone in Matthew??

IamAdopted said:
I do..why can't you trust in the written word of God?

I think you misunderstood.
You trust the Trinity...as it is explained by the Catholic Church and the term is NO where in scripture.
So it seems you have decided to abide in trust to Tradition, and NOT solely on scripture. :wave:

FrauleinElsa said:
I agree with that. I'd also like to add that since she was a Jewish woman with a good, solid head on her shoulders and she was apparently very devout and faithful to God, that she would not want to be venerated, or have the attention that she is given today. I think that people should honor that wish, that I believe she would hold today if she knew what was going on in this day and age.

First, as a humble woman...which is exactly as you described her, then in HEAVEN she IS EXALTED.
Look up 'the humble will be exalted...'
SO she is now exalted.
She is in Heaven...and we cannot assume to know how she would feel there.

FrauleinElsa said:
The mother of Jesus, who was God also but she was not the mother of God. It sounds like you're saying that she is responsible for God the Father's existence. Jesus is God but not commonly known as God. When you say God it's commonly recognized that you mean the Father, not Jesus. That's how it's possible to distinguish between the two.

Are you denying Christ's 100% Divinity?

Amor Vincit Omnia said:
Is your mother your creator? Is she your source of origin?

Your mother is the mother of YOU, but God is your creator.

Mary is the mother of the whole Jesus, therefore making her the mother of GOd. This does not mean that she pre-exists God, nor is she the source of God. You cannot separate out Jesus' divinity from His humanity without reducing what He is.

TheCosmicGospel said:
1. Maybe she didn't hear Mary clear enough.

2. So you also think the Tablets of Moroni are a real poissiblity?

3. Maybe apparitions don't tell the truth as to invent new spiritual lies.

4. Could all be a trap. How would we know? At this rate, one superstition becomes as valid as anyother. It is easy to doubt faith. It is much harder to doubt superstitions.

The kingdom cannot divide itself.
If satan were the one behind these events and ppl convert to Christ due to them...then he loses...thus his kingdom falls.
I heard Christ say this in scriptures to those who claimed HE was a demon for expelling demons...

Think about it.

LittleLambofJesus said:
And better translations also please. Thanks.

Malachi 2:1 "And now, O priests, this commandment is for you. 2 If you will not hear, And if you will not take [it] to heart, To give glory to My name,"

Reve 11:2 and the Court/f, the without of the Sanctuary/m, be ye Casting Out!! out-side, and thou mayest not be measuring it/her,

And at the beginning of Rev we see the Lord telling John to WRITE TO THE CHURCHES. [The seven already established united in a Single Church...just different nations]
'Go and baptise all nations in the name of........."

LittleLambofJesus · Feb 21, 2007

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus
Hi. How do you know that? Can the Pope interpret or translate the Bible any better than any other minister or preacher in a denomination outside the catholic church?

Matthew 21:43 "Therefore I say to you, the Kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.

Reve 12:7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael [Daniel 12] and his messengers fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his messengers fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place/ topoV <5117> found for them in Heaven any longer.

Could YOU explain why you brought up those WHO rejected the corner stone in Matthew??

Umm. Have you seen them or their temple around lately.

Matt 23:33 "Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of the gehenna?

Ezekiel 39:12 "For seven months the house of Israel will be burying them, in order to cleanse/purify the land. 13 "Indeed all the people of the land will be burying, and they will gain renown for it on the day that I am glorified," says the Lord GOD.

IamAdopted · Feb 21, 2007

I think you misunderstood.
You trust the Trinity...as it is explained by the Catholic Church and the term is NO where in scripture.
So it seems you have decided to abide in trust to Tradition, and NOT solely on scripture.

I am sorry but the trinity is seen in scripture. The word itself is not in the scriptures but I see the trinity in Genesis through out the bible.. So this is where I get my beliefs on the Trinity..

First, as a humble woman...which is exactly as you described her, then in HEAVEN she IS EXALTED.
Look up 'the humble will be exalted...'
SO she is now exalted.

10But when you are invited, take the lowest place, so that when your host comes, he will say to you, 'Friend, move up to a better place.' Then you will be honored in the presence of all your fellow guests. 11For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."

you really need to look this scripture a little more..

Are you denying Christ's 100% Divinity?

No we are simply stating a fact as written in scripture.. Mary was the Mother of Jesus.. God wasn't born.. Only the second person of the trinity was..

The kingdom cannot divide itself.
If satan were the one behind these events and ppl convert to Christ due to them...then he loses...thus his kingdom falls.
I heard Christ say this in scriptures to those who claimed HE was a demon for expelling demons...

Think about it.

And what do they convert to may I ask? Sorry about the misunderstanding of the blasphemy of the Holy spirit on your part.. For we are not talking of Jesus here but mary and she has no divinity...

And at the beginning of Rev we see the Lord telling John to WRITE TO THE CHURCHES. [The seven already established united in a Single Church...just different nations]
'Go and baptise all nations in the name of........."

I really cannot reply to this for it makes no sense to me..

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Letalis · Feb 22, 2007

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UBERROGO · Feb 22, 2007

LittleLambofJesus said:
Hi. The Jew's Messiah had to be a descendant of Solomon's son of whom was given One Tribe, the Tribe of Judah.
I am reckoning that it is only through the Cross that Israel and Judah can become One Nation, as the Lord Jesus is now the Sceptre of Israel instead of Judah. Hope that helps.

1 Kings 12:21 And when Rehoboam came to Jerusalem, he assembled all the house of Judah with the tribe of Benjamin, one hundred and eighty thousand chosen [men] who were warriors, to fight against the house of Israel, that he might restore the kingdom to Rehoboam the son of Solomon.

But no one is claiming that Mary was not Jewish!! Everyone agrees that Mary is Jewish! ...Maybe I am missing something.

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