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Something got brought up in another post that I would love some input on. There is a concept that once we are saved we are either immune to sickness or if we do get sick we will be healed by God as promised in the Bible. The other way at looking at it is that if we get sick and are not healed then we don't have enough faith (at least not in that area).
Previously I had a verse, 2 Corinthians 12:7, I used to disprove this concept but Andrew presented some good evidence in his Was Paul's Thorn Some Sickness thread that I may be inaccurate in my translation of that verse.
Being a Christian Fundamentalist I like to make sure that I am following the Word of God properly, and translating it correctly as well, but have some difficulty with the above concept. I hope it is inaccurate but admittedly I am not very good at researching this one particular concept as I am a little too close to it.
Here is my problem: there are two men who attend my church who are disabled. One has a mysterious disease that causes him extreme pain in his head and neck. The second has a rare disease called Multiple System Atrophy, a crippling disease that results in death often within seven years, along with a second intertwined disease called Chronic Fatigue & Immune Deficiency Syndrome. Both are saved and would like nothing better to do then serve God by working full time at the church. Given the chance they would be there six days a week (not seven only in order to observe the sabbath). The first has the gifts to be a pastor while the second has the gifts to be a teacher. Due to his illness, the first is only able to do a little volunteer work at the church but has a position waiting for him should he become healed. The second has a gift with children but due to his illness, not only is he bedridden most of the time, but he is advised to stay away from kids because of the immune problems, and like the first has a position awaiting him at the church.
Both men are often told of how they are inspirations to others working at the church and those they encounter because of the great faith they have despite having such problems.
Both men also show their pain when someone mentions that since they haven't been healed that they don't have enough faith. That concept is probably the only thing that causes them anguish.
Oddly, both men considers themselves to be blessed as well. I would like to think that the above two do have great faith and have not been healed so they can be used by the Lord in other ways.
Am I wrong? (What Bible verses prove or disprove this?)
Should they be told how they are not being good witnesses because they have not been healed?
In his thread Andrew presented another possible line of thought:
The above could be used to show that the two men do have faith just not faith in the area of healing. That would still condemn them by not having the faith they need to be healed though.
I look forward to your insights
Something got brought up in another post that I would love some input on. There is a concept that once we are saved we are either immune to sickness or if we do get sick we will be healed by God as promised in the Bible. The other way at looking at it is that if we get sick and are not healed then we don't have enough faith (at least not in that area).
Previously I had a verse, 2 Corinthians 12:7, I used to disprove this concept but Andrew presented some good evidence in his Was Paul's Thorn Some Sickness thread that I may be inaccurate in my translation of that verse.
Being a Christian Fundamentalist I like to make sure that I am following the Word of God properly, and translating it correctly as well, but have some difficulty with the above concept. I hope it is inaccurate but admittedly I am not very good at researching this one particular concept as I am a little too close to it.
Here is my problem: there are two men who attend my church who are disabled. One has a mysterious disease that causes him extreme pain in his head and neck. The second has a rare disease called Multiple System Atrophy, a crippling disease that results in death often within seven years, along with a second intertwined disease called Chronic Fatigue & Immune Deficiency Syndrome. Both are saved and would like nothing better to do then serve God by working full time at the church. Given the chance they would be there six days a week (not seven only in order to observe the sabbath). The first has the gifts to be a pastor while the second has the gifts to be a teacher. Due to his illness, the first is only able to do a little volunteer work at the church but has a position waiting for him should he become healed. The second has a gift with children but due to his illness, not only is he bedridden most of the time, but he is advised to stay away from kids because of the immune problems, and like the first has a position awaiting him at the church.
Both men are often told of how they are inspirations to others working at the church and those they encounter because of the great faith they have despite having such problems.
Both men also show their pain when someone mentions that since they haven't been healed that they don't have enough faith. That concept is probably the only thing that causes them anguish.
Oddly, both men considers themselves to be blessed as well. I would like to think that the above two do have great faith and have not been healed so they can be used by the Lord in other ways.
Am I wrong? (What Bible verses prove or disprove this?)
Should they be told how they are not being good witnesses because they have not been healed?
In his thread Andrew presented another possible line of thought:
The above could be used to show that the two men do have faith just not faith in the area of healing. That would still condemn them by not having the faith they need to be healed though.
I look forward to your insights
