Is this is a sin...?

UberLutheran said:

Sometimes the solution to a a problem involves "thinking outside the box."

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Fair enough, but I just worry that we live in a time when people heve been trained to think "outside the box" to such a degree that no one is able to think inside the box any more, when the occasion calls for it, as in "suppose that...."

It seems that these days, whenever you ask someone to choose between option A and option B, they are always going to pick option C.

My opinion: Questions like this are stupid. What purpose do they serve? You asked a question which you answered yourself only a sentence later! What practical application do you get from asking these questions? The likelihood of ever being in the situation where the ONLY source of food is a single fruit tree and it ONLY supplies enough for one family is next to nil.

Let's try focusing on something important, like maybe, getting out from in front of our computers and living for Christ.

SoC said:

My opinion: Questions like this are stupid. What purpose do they serve? You asked a question which you answered yourself only a sentence later! What practical application do you get from asking these questions? The likelihood of ever being in the situation where the ONLY source of food is a single fruit tree and it ONLY supplies enough for one family is next to nil.

Let's try focusing on something important, like maybe, getting out from in front of our computers and living for Christ.

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The ironic nature of this post, is that you thought the question was so stupid, but yet you took the time to respond to this thread. Maybe you should take up your own advice, and get off the computer, and "live it up for Christ".

This is a public forum, and as long as Hope asks questions or reponds within moderator guidelines, she is allowed to inquire about whatever she wants.

HopeBforJC said:

And there you are typing a message? Nice. Very nice.

The question was more or less asking "hey, is it ever ok to kill"...it was thrown into a circumstance, but it's not held to simply just that circumstance. It's thrown out there in general...is it ever ok to kill? Even if it's not ok, what would you really do if you were put into such a situation? Maybe it's meant for something for you to think about and not respond to like you did. Maybe you want to respond, I dont give a rats butt...You get the point.

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There are times when it is required that we kill -- or perhaps, kill or be killed -- but (IMO) it should be ONLY after all possible alternatives have been found.

I would have been among the group who tried to assassinate Hitler with a bomb in 1944. Killing a madman like Hitler is infinitely preferably to the death of a million people -- troops, civilians, and those interned in concentration camps.

I would have killed (or try to kill) the members of Al Queda who hijacked the planes on 9/11. It is far better to kill a member of Al Queda who is hijacking a plane than to sacrifice all the people on the plane, plus all the people in the World Trade Center.

does God give any reasons to disobey His law?
nope.
therefore it is sin.

God is above us, in every way,
He is rightous we are not.

He is Fit to judge us, and therefore kill us, if it is his will.

Just as he cleansed the earth with the flood, and he will do so again at the judgement.

However it is not given to us to do those things in his name.
therefore, as a christian, we should Give the tree up, to the other family, and walk the other way, as Abraham did when Given the choice, with Lot.

HopeBforJC said:

The question was more or less asking "hey, is it ever ok to kill"...it was thrown into a circumstance, but it's not held to simply just that circumstance. It's thrown out there in general...is it ever ok to kill?

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If that's what you really wanted to ask, asking it directly would have minimized the understandably edgy responses you've received.

Is it ever ok to kill? Of course it is. But I don't think it would be the right response in the scenario you painted.

MrsJoy said:

does God give any reasons to disobey His law?
nope.
therefore it is sin.

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The prob with this Black and white response is that it ignores the fact that God has in the Bible commanded people to kill other people...

THEN THE QUESTION IS.......... IS MURDERING SOMEONE THE SAME AS KILLING SOMEONE? Is this another thread? Sorry if it is.

JuJube said:

THEN THE QUESTION IS.......... IS MURDERING SOMEONE THE SAME AS KILLING SOMEONE? Is this another thread? Sorry if it is.

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When we condemn (judge) and sentence a murderer , it is usually for them taking an innocent life...they have committed murder. But taking a murderers life is not taking the life of someone who is innocent. IMO

HopeBforJC said:

And there you are typing a message? Nice. Very nice.

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I never said that it's wrong or stupid to participate in forums. Just that questions like this one are stupid and without reason.

HopeBforJC said:

The question was more or less asking "hey, is it ever ok to kill"...it was thrown into a circumstance, but it's not held to simply just that circumstance. It's thrown out there in general...is it ever ok to kill? Even if it's not ok, what would you really do if you were put into such a situation? Maybe it's meant for something for you to think about and not respond to like you did. Maybe you want to respond, I dont give a rats butt...You get the point.

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My point is that situations like this are so unrealistic, you're more likely to find a talking, thinking monkey that could come up with questions like these than to ever be in them. What's the point in asking them? Especially when subjects like "killing" are so clearly outlined throughout the Bible.

davedjy said:

The ironic nature of this post, is that you thought the question was so stupid, but yet you took the time to respond to this thread. Maybe you should take up your own advice, and get off the computer, and "live it up for Christ".

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What makes you think I don't already?

My point was that a lot of people spend so much time asking and trying to answer these pointless questions that they forget what our purpose is. We're not supposed to sit around asking questions which can be answered by the Bible. We're supposed to be out there, sharing the gospel.

davedjy said:

This is a public forum, and as long as Hope asks questions or reponds within moderator guidelines, she is allowed to inquire about whatever she wants.

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I never said she couldn't post, just that these are stupid, pointless questions. See above.

JuJube said:

THEN THE QUESTION IS.......... IS MURDERING SOMEONE THE SAME AS KILLING SOMEONE? Is this another thread? Sorry if it is.

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Murder is not the same as justifiable homicide or killing in warfare.

HopeBforJC said:

under all circumstances? God kills like TONS of people in the Bible. Especially in the OT. I don't think I agree.

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why did He kill them?
because they were living in sin.
Can we change God' s Word and laws?
no.
God is God and we are humans.
we do not call the shots.

mooduck1 said:

The prob with this Black and white response is that it ignores the fact that God has in the Bible commanded people to kill other people...

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notice the key:
GOD decided.
men didn't just wake up one day and decide to do certain things , even in God's name.
God told them, because of sin.
not because someone thought it was justified.