Are your beliefs falsifiable?

Taure, that is a very tough question.

From my weak stance of human knowledge, all I know is God. He is my everything and I try to rely on Him as much as possible (even though I fail all the time... )

With that said, my beliefs could not be faltered because there will never be anything of a supernatural nature to contradict the existence of God. God has planned for thinking of that nature and will not allow anything that contradicts Himself.



However, your 2nd poll option...that comment isn't necessary. You are not a heretic for searching for the ultimate truth in your beliefs. I am actually proud of you for not being a mindless drone and doing thinking for yourself

Actually it is more complicated than that and much simpler than that.
Since our belief in God is mostly faith, what could cause us to lose our belief? Since our only guide as to who God is, we must have faith in our guide. Also, since we depend so heavily on faith in God, our faith can only be shaken if it is not very strong in the first place. It can appear to be strong by our words and actions but it is in our reactions that is the true tell.

As far as someone coming along with some scientific fact is no proof as to the reality of God and His word. Yet some, though I believe only a few would be swayed, but then we would have to ask how real or strong was that persons or those persons faith in order to be swayed by some fact based teaching.

Where the loss of faith usually comes to pass is through an experience of the heart. And then it may actually a sense of betrayal rather than a loss of belief in a system or in God, (particularly if the system is of God).

I think I could probably write a book or at least a thick pamphlet . So, I will stop here.

Taure said:

So, if (for example), a tomb was discovered in Jerusalem, and it housed the decaying body of someone who had been crucified in it, and the bones were carbon dated to around 30 A.D...this would not effect your beliefs at all?

Because that would be quite strong evidence in the favour of saying that Jesus was never resurected, and the disciples simply got the wrong tomb.

This of course would never happen, but treat it as a hypothetical scenario.

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Not at all, lots of people were crucified in those days. Scourging and many tortures were inflicted on many people as a routine to those considered outlaws. Crucifixtion was one of the tortures. I put little or no faith in what man discovers. My beliefs may be slightly altered or change on some insignificant point but all in all, my faith is what God gave me and I intend on exercising it. I have been through and seen too much not to.

A better question would be whether your beliefs are reasonable, it is quite reasonable to weigh the evidence available and come to a faith in Christ.

Christian belief is in essence not falsifiable. That does not amount to an irrational belief however.

I believe this would be a test of faith.. If this were to happen.. We either have to believe in what Gods word tell us or we have to believe in the schemes of the enemy.. That is why I put my faith in what Gods word tells me.. Heaven and earth shall pass away but My word will never pass away..

I didn't like how the poll was worded w/ the options, so I didn't vote...

What is FAITH? BELIEVING AND TRUSTING IN WHAT IS NOT SEEN. I don't think anything would shake me from the Foundation I have in Jesus Christ...

We're given far too much in scripture to be able to test & prove out that He is truth and others ways are false. I can't even think of anything that would cause me to leave the Faith at this point of my walk.

He's proven Himself true in far too many ways (to all people and to me personally) NOT to be the Way, Truth and Life. He is True!!

Nadiine said:

I didn't like how the poll was worded w/ the options, so I didn't vote...

What is FAITH? BELIEVING AND TRUSTING IN WHAT IS NOT SEEN. I don't think anything would shake me from the Foundation I have in Jesus Christ...

We're given far too much in scripture to be able to test & prove out that He is truth and others ways are false. I can't even think of anything that would cause me to leave the Faith at this point of my walk.

He's proven Himself true in far too many ways (to all people and to me personally) NOT to be the Way, Truth and Life. He is True!!

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Just to counter-point your argument, Muslims use the same argument regarding the Koran to say that Islam is the one true religion and all others are false.

That is neither here nor there, though

Could a particular belief be false? Sure.

Search for Truth.

Forgive me...

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Just to counter-point your argument, Muslims use the same argument regarding the Koran to say that Islam is the one true religion and all others are false.

That is neither here nor there, though

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It doesn't counter my argument tho - the facts are what they are. Just becuz there's someone who's false doesn't demand that all things are FALSE till proven out.

I never said live on BLIND faith, PLENTY proves God out physically and supernaturally... God knows the importance of proper eyewitness testimony which is why He had the bible written by 40 authors over a span of thousands of years with the same message.

They're simply wrong & their Koran has many problems - as does Muhammed their prophet which are well documented.

Your question seems to me to be bias. You seem to be assuming that to be strong in your convictions means that your not thinking. Then again, most of us don't really know what could happen to us and how we might respond under extreme stress.
I believe that my convictions will remain pretty much the way they are now, but I am open to listening to new ideas and thoughts. I am interested and find other ideas curious and interesting. But, that doesn't mean I am going to change my mind. Sometimes listening to someone else's ideas only reinforces what you believe and causes you to think about why you believe what you believe.

Beliefs are metaphysical and can't be falsified.

All faith is blind: if there was evidence backing it up then it would no longer be faith but reasoned out belief.

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It ought to be abundantly obvious that your statement here is simply incorrect. There is in fact historical evidence in support of Christian claims as well as other evidence, whether for instance personal experience is veridical or not is an irrelevance to the fact that for the individual concerned it remains evidence. There is of course no absolute proof but that kind of proof is not required for faith to be reasonable, simple appeal to the best explanation is the minimum requirement there, not proof. Your characterisation of faith as blind is probably true of some groups, it isnt true of all.

If, as you say, you live on faith - faith that is, despite your protestations, blind - then what makes you so sure that you are right and they are wrong?

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I'd advise a reading of someone like Prof William Lane Craig, you very clearly need a lesson in reason and logic.

Every religion has their "evidence", the truth is that these evidences are meaningless: otherwise there would be no atheists in the world.

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Your conclusion does not follow, but as you seem to be in the business of making blind assertions that your view is fact that isnt surprising. What is amusing though is that you have the gall to label others faith blind given that your own view seems to be entirely without rational justification ( ie its blind faith itself ).

As for personal experience: it has no validity as proof, except in an anti-realist way - which really is no way at all.

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Well there are accomplished philosophers who would disagree, now who do i believe? A kid who simply asserts his views with no supporting arguement whatsover or people who have proven their abilities over and over and make a compelling case......

I think it's you who needs that lesson: I used not a single bit of logic or reason in that statement which you quoted: it was simply a factual statement.

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Well I'll agree that your post is devoid of logic or reason, unfortunately for you its also devoid of fact. All you are doing here is repeating assertions, if you want anyone who can actually think to take you seriously you need to make a reasonable case.

My belief in God cannot change.
I know that He is, I've encountered Him over and over in my life.

My belief in the Word of God for the most part, same thing.
I have watched the Living Word of God in action over and over as well.


Some of my beliefs about what different passages mean, different 'traditions' and the way I understand some things in the Bible can and better change, because there is so much that I don't fully understand or know that I know.

I had been anti catholic before joining this website but rethought this mindset due to one of my best friends recently converting to catholicism.
I have been testing my beliefs about catholicism (against scripture) ever since.

There is a spirit of truth and a spirit of error, none of us is immune.

1 John 4:6
6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Would you like to actually make any reasoned out or logical and rational arguments against my posts, or are you just going to continue your ad hominem attack?

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I already pointed out that your statement that there is no evidence is untrue and why that is so, the existence of the historical accounts ( reliable or not ) proves my point and that is a logical arguement!!!

As for ad hominem your last post is a very clear attempt to divert others from the logical arguement I have already made, it is far more an ad hominem that anything I have so far said. On the other hand you have made no point so far, you have merely asserted your view as fact, noting you are not making an arguement is not an ad hominem.

Would you like to reason out why you think my assertations are incorrect, rather than just making a statement?

I have said that all faith is equal in validity, for all faith is blind.

I would like an argument against it that isn't just "you're wrong because I say so, <insert name of a scholar here to make me look clever>"

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Its for you to show your statement is true, not for others to defend against an unsupported assertion that their faith is blind. You have the burden of proof here not me, its you making the statement and thus far failing to make any arguement whatsover to back it up.