Wow, im impressed. Few people are actually mature enough to admit when they were wrong. Thanks. Kudos Susan, its all good. 
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supermagdalena
The Shrubs and the Flan.
Susan, I haven't seen anyone on this fourm apologize like that 
It took guts. Apology accepted!
It took guts. Apology accepted!
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Sure...NO! I must be super-human because I have never said a cuss word in my WHOLE LIFE. No, supermagdalena you don't have to be super human to hold your tongue.
What makes you think they are a Christian band in the first place? Because they say so? Or some other reason? Also, do you believe it is possible to be deceived?
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No. Cussing is what I mean. Cussing is not a christian thing to do.
No, christian means CHRIST-LIKE. That's a good point also. Do you think that Christ cussed? Do you think this makes it ok for them to call themselves Christians (Christ like) bearing the name of Christ and cuss?! I don't think so!
For some reason, people think that I think it's not ok to associate with non-christians... This is not true. I associate myself with non-christians by witnessing to them at every opportunity I can get. It is NOT wrong to associate with non-christian. It IS wrong to act like them (cussing for example).
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Hmm...... Okay, I just sent an email to the guitar world editor asking for information about the interview. I will post his reply as soon as I get it.
hmm... I don't say I'm not christian so that people will listen to me, yet I am still able to witness and I have seen lives saved because of it.
2 Corinthians 4:2
Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use DECEPTION, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth PLAINLY we commend ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
Answer this for me. What is true Christianity? After you have answered this, tell me. Is this your opinion?
I didn't say they were rasta because they liked bob marley. I said it's not ok to support non-christians and their music, etc.
If they use words which are related to rastafarianism (i.e. Jah (by the way, someone mentioned that "Jah" is mentioned in the Bible. Not true. "Jah" is not mentioned in any part of the Bible.
I didn't even see the part where it mentions the symbol. I will look into it...
I responded to this same accusation earlier in my post...
For some reason, people think that I think it's not ok to associate with non-christians... This is not true. I associate myself with non-christians by witnessing to them at every opportunity I can get. It is NOT wrong to associate with non-christian. It IS wrong to act like them (cussing for example).
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Super, or nyoen else I ask you dont respond to this. Ie got this HUGE thing Im going to post that will hopefuly put an end to this and clear up the confusion.
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1. Jah is in the bible. Look up Psalms 68:4
2. You still have no proof P.O.D. has cussed at all or done anything that migt be un-christian liek. Until you do, you ahve no right to say anytthing about it.
3. Christian doesnt mean follower of christ? Then I guess Im not christian because Ill follow christ until I die.
4. P.O.D. is Christian, heres some proof
Interview with Wuv, Sonny and Traa (marcos was away with his family)
FamilyChristian.com: What is P.O.D.'s mission?
Wuv: I think what God did last year was the best mission we could have possibly been on. To get in front of millions of people and just basically rock a show, and at the same time have them see what a Christian is and being able to relate and not feel like they can't be one. When they see P.O.D. they see us padded up, they see us rocking out, having fun, they're like, "Dude, if they can love God and have fun, then I can love God and have fun too." God's the King of fun. He's the one that made everybody's personalities. He's the one that created music, He's the one that created the way we act and the way we look. A lot of times the world sees the stereotypical Christian, all stiff like a cardboard cutout. P.O.D. just shows them the real deal. You can look any way and God will meet you where you're at. You don't need to look a certain way, you don't need to act a certain way. You can be who you are and God will meet you right where you're at. We're just thankful for what God's done today. We never even expected or even strived for P.O.D. to be like this. It was just something we were having fun with in a garage. Now we finally get a chance to be home and look back and see all the things that God's done. It's amazing to us and we still just sit back and laugh. Whenever we're asked what the future holds, we're just like, "Dude, I don't know, man." Whatever it is, I'll be happy changing diapers in the nursery at church. If God were to have it done now, it's all good. (DO I NEED TO EXPLAIN???)
Lyrics from the song T. Warriors "My life of sacrifices made new through these confessions, manifested, this joy is my desire ignite the fire to the flame, praise the name Jehovah Jireh, is the truth that lives inside of this fighter, Master, Sire, takes me higher makes me a rider"
Interview with shoutweb, with Traa Marcos Sonny and Wuv
Shoutweb: I'll say! I have to ask you some questions about things I've been reading. There is apparently a photo in one of the magazines or something where you're holding up both hands and it appears that you're holding up your middle finger.
Traa: Where was this? I'm positive I didn't stick my middle finger up.
Shoutweb: I think I remember seeing something like that.
Traa: I can assure everybody out there that I would never do such a thing. Maybe I had a pen in my hand. I'll have to see what it is that they're talking about. Could be sabotage! (laughter)
Shoutweb: (laughter) I know. Anything is possible these days.
Traa: There was also something printed and it was a misquote. It was something about Eek-a-Mouse and it had me using the "f" word but it was totally a misquote. I never said that.
Lyrics form the song Three in the Power of One
The hard rock and thrash with a little hip-hop
Four christian borther's on a roll, there we go
Coming up hard but you know we got soul
I'm strapped yes, we're packed and it's about time
Jesus got my back, P.O.D. on the frontline
Lyrics from Three in The Power of One-
We are soldiers prepared for war
With the power to speak His name
Satan with his legion of demons
Decieving with his wicked ways
With his life He has paid
With his word I will slay
Any demon that steps in my way
So bring it on
Interview with Highwire Daze
HD: The last song on your E.P. seems to talk about questioning ones belief in God. Is that accurate and have you ever questioned your beliefs?
Sonny: I never questioned my belief, but I questioned whether or not I have what it takes to walk in this world as a believer. It's not easy to be one who tries to follow the examples of Christ. But the bible says that God will give me the strength to do so in a world that hates me. I wasn't raised in the church or grew up a Christian in any way, but recognized myself and how I was living. That last song is actually a testimony of when I became a Christian. I watched my mother pass away of cancer at the age of 37 and she was a Christian the last years of her life. And her example to me as a Christian made me think about life and the world around me. It's easy to follow the world and live life with no conviction. I had been doing that since I learned the word," No." But it takes power to walk and talk like Christ did. To love and serve those around me. To walk in humility. It's not easy at all, but I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me!
HD: When one thinks about certain forms of Christianity, one thinks of narrow minded, opinionated people. What are your views on people who preach the gospel for profit, who spew out hate (aka racism, homophobia)instead of love?
Sonny: It makes me sick to be honest with you. That is exactly what I was saying about examples. Most of the world claims to be Christian, but their lives don't reflect that of Christ in any way. Seems to me like Jesus got a bum rap. All these people claim to follow him but wouldn't even recognize him at a P.O.D. show. (ha ha)
HD: If there was one thing you'd like to leave someone with after hearing P.O.D.'s music, what would it be?
Sonny: Just that God loves them. It's your choice to accept it or not. Christ surrendered his life to prove that to us. It's a lot easier to believe than people think. I'm just trying myself to live my life for God the best that I can and the cool thing is that all God expects from us is to just love him back. But it seems like that is too simple for man to comprehend.
Ive got at least 1000 more interview sources, all proving the same thing so Ill post more if you want me to.
2. You still have no proof P.O.D. has cussed at all or done anything that migt be un-christian liek. Until you do, you ahve no right to say anytthing about it.
3. Christian doesnt mean follower of christ? Then I guess Im not christian because Ill follow christ until I die.
4. P.O.D. is Christian, heres some proof
Interview with Wuv, Sonny and Traa (marcos was away with his family)
FamilyChristian.com: What is P.O.D.'s mission?
Wuv: I think what God did last year was the best mission we could have possibly been on. To get in front of millions of people and just basically rock a show, and at the same time have them see what a Christian is and being able to relate and not feel like they can't be one. When they see P.O.D. they see us padded up, they see us rocking out, having fun, they're like, "Dude, if they can love God and have fun, then I can love God and have fun too." God's the King of fun. He's the one that made everybody's personalities. He's the one that created music, He's the one that created the way we act and the way we look. A lot of times the world sees the stereotypical Christian, all stiff like a cardboard cutout. P.O.D. just shows them the real deal. You can look any way and God will meet you where you're at. You don't need to look a certain way, you don't need to act a certain way. You can be who you are and God will meet you right where you're at. We're just thankful for what God's done today. We never even expected or even strived for P.O.D. to be like this. It was just something we were having fun with in a garage. Now we finally get a chance to be home and look back and see all the things that God's done. It's amazing to us and we still just sit back and laugh. Whenever we're asked what the future holds, we're just like, "Dude, I don't know, man." Whatever it is, I'll be happy changing diapers in the nursery at church. If God were to have it done now, it's all good. (DO I NEED TO EXPLAIN???)
Lyrics from the song T. Warriors "My life of sacrifices made new through these confessions, manifested, this joy is my desire ignite the fire to the flame, praise the name Jehovah Jireh, is the truth that lives inside of this fighter, Master, Sire, takes me higher makes me a rider"
Interview with shoutweb, with Traa Marcos Sonny and Wuv
Shoutweb: I'll say! I have to ask you some questions about things I've been reading. There is apparently a photo in one of the magazines or something where you're holding up both hands and it appears that you're holding up your middle finger.
Traa: Where was this? I'm positive I didn't stick my middle finger up.
Shoutweb: I think I remember seeing something like that.
Traa: I can assure everybody out there that I would never do such a thing. Maybe I had a pen in my hand. I'll have to see what it is that they're talking about. Could be sabotage! (laughter)
Shoutweb: (laughter) I know. Anything is possible these days.
Traa: There was also something printed and it was a misquote. It was something about Eek-a-Mouse and it had me using the "f" word but it was totally a misquote. I never said that.
Lyrics form the song Three in the Power of One
The hard rock and thrash with a little hip-hop
Four christian borther's on a roll, there we go
Coming up hard but you know we got soul
I'm strapped yes, we're packed and it's about time
Jesus got my back, P.O.D. on the frontline
Lyrics from Three in The Power of One-
We are soldiers prepared for war
With the power to speak His name
Satan with his legion of demons
Decieving with his wicked ways
With his life He has paid
With his word I will slay
Any demon that steps in my way
So bring it on
Interview with Highwire Daze
HD: The last song on your E.P. seems to talk about questioning ones belief in God. Is that accurate and have you ever questioned your beliefs?
Sonny: I never questioned my belief, but I questioned whether or not I have what it takes to walk in this world as a believer. It's not easy to be one who tries to follow the examples of Christ. But the bible says that God will give me the strength to do so in a world that hates me. I wasn't raised in the church or grew up a Christian in any way, but recognized myself and how I was living. That last song is actually a testimony of when I became a Christian. I watched my mother pass away of cancer at the age of 37 and she was a Christian the last years of her life. And her example to me as a Christian made me think about life and the world around me. It's easy to follow the world and live life with no conviction. I had been doing that since I learned the word," No." But it takes power to walk and talk like Christ did. To love and serve those around me. To walk in humility. It's not easy at all, but I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me!
HD: When one thinks about certain forms of Christianity, one thinks of narrow minded, opinionated people. What are your views on people who preach the gospel for profit, who spew out hate (aka racism, homophobia)instead of love?
Sonny: It makes me sick to be honest with you. That is exactly what I was saying about examples. Most of the world claims to be Christian, but their lives don't reflect that of Christ in any way. Seems to me like Jesus got a bum rap. All these people claim to follow him but wouldn't even recognize him at a P.O.D. show. (ha ha)
HD: If there was one thing you'd like to leave someone with after hearing P.O.D.'s music, what would it be?
Sonny: Just that God loves them. It's your choice to accept it or not. Christ surrendered his life to prove that to us. It's a lot easier to believe than people think. I'm just trying myself to live my life for God the best that I can and the cool thing is that all God expects from us is to just love him back. But it seems like that is too simple for man to comprehend.
Ive got at least 1000 more interview sources, all proving the same thing so Ill post more if you want me to.
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Sorry peeps, Id ike to add that word Jah found in Psalms 68:4 is not in a Revised Standard Version, Im positive that it IS in the NKJV or KJV, there may be others im not aware o. its just as I was flippin through my RSV, it didnt have Jah, I compred my KJV and my RSV, KJV contained the word Jah, RSV did not.
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supermagdalena
The Shrubs and the Flan.
Wonderful post warrior. But i had to come on here when attacked...
OKay, fine. So we've established that I'm a dirty sinner and you are not. Cussing is an equeal sin to murder, or prejudice, or a little white lie! Don't legalize sin. It's all the same, God hates it all.
I've read the lyrics. I've read interviews. In my mind there's not reason to doubt that they are Christians. You yourself, remember, have provided no evidence.
No. And you've never sinned. You've already established your holier-than-thou tone, my friend. Please get off of it now.
Christ-like = follower of Christ. Don't get super-technical. Christ never sinned. Have you? I thought so. Do you think it's ok to call yourself a Christian when you have sinned, then? Cussing is not a special, sin. They're all fatal. (By the way, we still haven't established that they cussed in an interview. Any evidence?)
What he was trying to say they said their music wasn't only for Christian, hence "Christian band". It's an outreach, in other words.
What's up with you? You think just because you've never cussed before in your life that your better than me? Man, that makes me mad. I just became a Christian a year and a half ago, and some habits are hard to break. But i will never be sinless, and neither will you. So I suggest you drop the attitude. No offense intended, just that attitude is going to get you nowhere especially in any outreach.
OKay, fine. So we've established that I'm a dirty sinner and you are not. Cussing is an equeal sin to murder, or prejudice, or a little white lie! Don't legalize sin. It's all the same, God hates it all.
I've read the lyrics. I've read interviews. In my mind there's not reason to doubt that they are Christians. You yourself, remember, have provided no evidence.
No. And you've never sinned. You've already established your holier-than-thou tone, my friend. Please get off of it now.
Christ-like = follower of Christ. Don't get super-technical. Christ never sinned. Have you? I thought so. Do you think it's ok to call yourself a Christian when you have sinned, then? Cussing is not a special, sin. They're all fatal. (By the way, we still haven't established that they cussed in an interview. Any evidence?)
What he was trying to say they said their music wasn't only for Christian, hence "Christian band". It's an outreach, in other words.
What's up with you? You think just because you've never cussed before in your life that your better than me? Man, that makes me mad. I just became a Christian a year and a half ago, and some habits are hard to break. But i will never be sinless, and neither will you. So I suggest you drop the attitude. No offense intended, just that attitude is going to get you nowhere especially in any outreach.
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Im still awaiting a response from Reckless. Either he comes up with something to combat our posts or apologizes for his accusations.
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Of course I'm not sinless. And I'm definitly not the one to judge you. I was just stating that you don't have to be "super-human" to not cuss. I know I'm not super human, but I do not cuss.
Cussing is an equeal sin to murder, or prejudice, or a little white lie! Don't legalize sin. It's all the same, God hates it all.I understand this... I didn't say that it was worse or something, I think you don't understand much of what I am saying, and that is why you're blowing off steam on me.
No, I don't remember, actually... I've provided clear evidence.
Q: Are you or are you not a Christian band?
A: POD: Were not, but we do believe in Jesus.
(www.movieline.com, 11.00.1999)
I think the original question was: 'What do you think about POD: Are they or are they not a christian band?' (or something similar). They are NOT a christian band. THEY EVEN SAY THAT THEY AREN'T! What more evidence do you need?
I've already said it but to make it clear, I AM DEFINITELY NOT SINLESS. I have never said I am.
I am not any "holier-than-thou." I think you've misunderstood me (whether purposefully or accidentally...), but that is definitely not the point I am trying to get across...
I've already answered your "cussing isn't a special sin" statement.
You keep bringing this up. As I said I emailed the editor and I said I would post it on here as soon as I got any information. Be patient.
Did you ask him yourself? This is not a sure statement. If they're not a "Christian band" then what type band are they? Secular?
Answering this again, I don't think I'm better than anyone. I don't think I'm sinless. You've misunderstood me. My point was that you do not have to be super human to not cuss. I am not superhuman and I don't cuss.
I understand. I'm not judging or accusing you for anything.
Thanks for the advice. And that is exactly why I don't have an attidude
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Originally posted by Warrior4Jah:
I looked this up in the dictionary. www.m-b.com
One entry found for Jah.
Main Entry: Jah
Pronunciation: 'jä
Function: noun
Etymology: Hebrew YAh
Date: 1975
: the Supreme Being of Rastafarianism
Jah may have been a name for God in Bible times, but it has been perverted into this today.
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Sorry it took so long for me to get back on. I was busy moving into a new house.
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Dude, youve ignored what I said. Exactly what i asked you not to do. You cant deny the fact Jah is in the bible. So respond to ME and tell what you think those interviews ment. Respond! P.O.D. is a christian band, hence they are all christians and they sing about christian subjects on evry song. So respond to what I said, respond to the interviews. Dont steer away from the subject.
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address all the issues in my post, not jsut wether or not Jah sis an evil term, becuase it doesnt matter. If you know P.O.D. and what they are about then you know what tehy mean by Jah. And dont tell me they should have to explain it, because they dont. You have no right to say anything on the subject until youve actually listened to most of their music.
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HD: If there was one thing you'd like to leave someone with after hearing P.O.D.'s music, what would it be?
Sonny: Just that God loves them. It's your choice to accept it or not. Christ surrendered his life to prove that to us. It's a lot easier to believe than people think. I'm just trying myself to live my life for God the best that I can and the cool thing is that all God expects from us is to just love him back.
Anotehr thing, until youve proven theyeve cussed you cant continue to argue taht point, so until youve gotten an email back, you cant bring it up anymore. Or Traa can answer it himslef!
Traa: There was also something printed and it was a misquote. It was something about Eek-a-Mouse and it had me using the "f" word but it was totally a misquote. I never said that.
Sonny: Just that God loves them. It's your choice to accept it or not. Christ surrendered his life to prove that to us. It's a lot easier to believe than people think. I'm just trying myself to live my life for God the best that I can and the cool thing is that all God expects from us is to just love him back.
Anotehr thing, until youve proven theyeve cussed you cant continue to argue taht point, so until youve gotten an email back, you cant bring it up anymore. Or Traa can answer it himslef!
Traa: There was also something printed and it was a misquote. It was something about Eek-a-Mouse and it had me using the "f" word but it was totally a misquote. I never said that.
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