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Haha, yea, I've worked in three restaurants in my life. I quit each time for various reasons, but the two common factors among all the jobs were 1) ridiculously long shift hours and 2) extremely high stress.

The money was great, but getting stressed to the breaking point every time you go to work is not a great way to live.

Unfortunately I am 100% friendless. I lost all of my "friends" when I dropped out of college. None of them ever tried to contact me...so much for them being my "friends." I don't go to church and I don't have any friends so I am a pretty lonely guy. I spend all of my time alone and that is why I have so much time to think negatively about myself.

(Why I don't go to church is a whole separate discussion, but let's just say I have visited lots of local churches (15 or so) and they're all full of unfriendly hypocrites. I also have a hard time opening up to complete strangers so that may be part of the problem, as well).

Your story is very encouraging, thanks for sharing it :)
It's true that good friends are hard to find. I've found that keeping in touch is not easy. I am a bit critical, but I still call or email 2-3x to ask what's up before giving up when they don't communicate. As for the stress of restaurant work, it decreases dramatically after ~1yr or so; you get the hang of it. I would also tell myself that at the end of the night, nothing that had happened would matter tomorrow, to decrease the stress.


Could you elaborate on how these 15 churches were full of unfriendly hypocrites?
 
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There are other places to work besides McD's... might require more physical labour (and pay better), but they do exist.


God says He watches out for His children and provides for them; but unless you do the wholelly illogical thing and act as if He will--that's faith in action--you are just giving refusing His care. He will care for you; so if you go out and try to find at least a semi-decent job, you will find one. It might happen immediatly, but keep it up and it'll happen.
Refuse His care (site on your bum and do jack), and you are left to your own ends which ultimately will lead to destruction of some form.
 
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It's true that good friends are hard to find. I've found that keeping in touch is not easy. I am a bit critical, but I still call or email 2-3x to ask what's up before giving up when they don't communicate. As for the stress of restaurant work, it decreases dramatically after ~1yr or so; you get the hang of it. I would also tell myself that at the end of the night, nothing that had happened would matter tomorrow, to decrease the stress.


Could you elaborate on how these 15 churches were full of unfriendly hypocrites?
Well, all of my restaurant work all came within the same 2 1/2 year period, and IMO, the stress never "got better" or "became acceptable." Every day, I dealt with the same BS shift work, the same angry customers whining about something different every day, and the same long/tedious 14-hour shifts. It was never a type of job I ENJOYED doing--I merely did it because of the money (at one particular restaurant, a higher-income clientèle Cajun restaurant, I could typically bring home $100 or more per night during a good week). I just got tired of the stressful shifts and long hours after a while. The money just wasn't worth feeling so tired all the time.

You're definitely a lot more willing than I am, as far as friends go. I haven't made much of an effort at all to talk with my old friends. Not that it really matters, now--I've been out of college since September 2005 so a lot of my old friends have graduated or will be graduating this Spring...we haven't talked in such a long time.

Hopefully, once I finally find a church, maybe I will make some new friends. Either that, or I'm going to turn into one of those lonely losers who are 45 years old and have absolutely no friends whatsoever. :(

As for the church comment, I guess that's not exactly what I meant. I think the hypocrite comment mainly applies to a particular Baptist church I went to whose congregation is largely middle- and higher-income individuals. The church parking lot is full of Mercedes, BMWs, Cadillacs, etc. and they just seem to look down upon everyone else. Maybe I am totally wrong here, but I just called it like I saw it at the time.

As for the other churches, most of them were churches I was invited to by friends. Thus, the particular services I went to were mainly contemporary services, which I absolutely cannot stand. I am a very traditionalist-type worshiper, and when I go to a contemporary worship and I'm the only one who's not getting into the music and who doesn't have my hands up in the air, I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

Additionally...

1) I was born into and raised to the age of 16 in a United Methodist church.
2) At the age of 16, I rejected God and became agnostic for two years.
3) At the age of 18, I let God back into my life but did not ever start going back to church.
4) Between the ages of 18 and 21, I have visited various churches:
----a) on a few occasions, I've visited the United Methodist church I grew up in (usually for the Christmas Eve service)
----b) a Pentecostal church upon a friend's invitation. The whole "speaking in tongues" thing and the whole congregation dancing around the room while worshiping scared me to death and I didn't go back
----c) a "Community" church upon a friend's invitation. The church reminded me of a Baptist church using the "Community Church" name, and the congregation numbered in the thousands--very impersonal experience and I didn't go back
----d) a second "Community" church upon a friend's invitation. While much smaller and more personal, the style of worship was contemporary (guitars/drums/electronic instruments) and I had a very hard time getting into the worship. A positive of the church was that the congregation was largely adults aged 20 - 45...people my age who could relate to my issues.
----e) Finally, an SBC Baptist church. The congregation is the largest in my city (Birmingham, AL), numbering nearly 12,000 people. Extremely impersonal due to the size, and full of rich people who, in my opinion, feel that they are better than other members of the church.
I recently attempted to attend my childhood church again, but there are too many bad memories at that church. Additionally, many of the members are the same members who were going there when I was a kid, and it's just awkward for me to be an adult (as opposed to the kid they once knew me as) around these same adults now, plus the fact that they all know I haven't regularly attended the church since I was 16. It's just weird...hard to explain.

I had been looking at the Roman Catholic Church for a while, but several ideas turn me off to it: The need for a priest to forgive sins (only God can forgive my sins), the heavy focus on the Virgin Mary (last I checked, Jesus is the important figure!), the idea of an infallible Pope (I only answer to God--all humans are sinful in nature, unfortunately, including the Pope), and finally, praying to patron Saints to interlude with God on your behalf (again, I only pray to God--I don't need Saints to speak to God for me when I can speak to God himself).

So yea, I have been having a hard time finding a place to call home. I think it is very important for me to find a church in which I can grow in my Christian walk.:cry:
 
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Hey :)

I'm a 21-year working as a cashier in supermarket. Is it something I've always dreamt of? Certainly not. Do I wish I was in school instead? Yes. My story is that I applied to schools, didn't get in but took a risk and moved to a different city to find a job. I found a job within a week and while it's a thousand miles from what I really want I think there's a meaning behind being put to where I'm at right now. I've found that I've learned a lot about God and about myself and while I don't know where it's going the key factor is trusting God and knowing He'll take me there as long as I don't lose focus. It's a lot of work, of course, but aren't relationships always hard work? It takes time and it's not easy letting your guards down and fully put your trust in someone else. Also, being in a loving community is a huge benefit as it is extremely difficult to cope on your own, we need people.

If you believe God would put you to work in McDonald's for the rest of your life, I think you have a messed-up image of Him and don't have a lot of faith in His goodness and faithfulness. God is love, He doesn't want to mess up with your life; He wants the best for you! It took me a reeeally long time to understand that. God does love you. He will move you in His time but you have to give Him all the control over your life. That's where your personal choice comes in. It's all or nothing. You can't give him just 30 or 50% of your life, He wants it all. It's the hardest thing to do but it will pay off, I promise :)

Oh and you're not in a hurry! (I obviously have to say that as I'm the same age, hah...) I don't regret taking the time after high school. I spent a wonderful year abroad and while the jobs I have had in Finland weren't fantastic at the time, I can grasp their meaning in hindsight. It's not about where you are, it's about what you do there and how you deal with it. Who knows, sometimes what God wants to teach you is patience. You're still young. Well... I think you are :D As for past mistakes, everyone makes some and while it's not what we should've done there's no need to dwell in it. You repent (and that's ongoing, meaning you don't just say you're sorry and do it again) and move on. There's always a new beginning (cliche, cliche...) and today is a good starting point, don't you think? :)

Hope I offered any useful insight. Good reads for you are Rick Warren's 'The Purpose-Driven Life' and Bruce Wilkinson's 'Dreamgiver'. I found them very helpful. I will say a prayer for you, God bless.
 
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The money just wasn't worth feeling so tired all the time.

I know what you mean and killing yourself with work is never a good idea. That's a lot of time off of your life...

Either that, or I'm going to turn into one of those lonely losers who are 45 years old and have absolutely no friends whatsoever. :(

Only with that attitude you will, c'mon! :)

I am a very traditionalist-type worshiper, and when I go to a contemporary worship and I'm the only one who's not getting into the music and who doesn't have my hands up in the air, I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

Nah, I get you. I don't raise up my hands and the only reason I'd do it would be looking holy to others, which is not really the point of worship, now is it? There are as many different worship styles as there are people. God wants you to be true to yourself and true to Him. He hears the silent worship, too.

So yea, I have been having a hard time finding a place to call home. I think it is very important for me to find a church in which I can grow in my Christian walk.:cry:

You hit the nail there. I'm in the process of finding such a place myself and let's just say I haven't been too active about it. I'm determined to make time and stick with a place I feel comfortable in. There's no perfect church, though, that I have learned. You will have to deal with imperfect people (keeping in mind you are one of them) and make an effort. I think with commitment comes a blessing.
 
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I dont wanna make this sound like im too pushy or something but I think you should find a job. Any kind of job. Even if it is another restraunt. Work there for awhile until you have a decent amount of money saved up. Then later on use that money to go back to college. And stop being lazy that is your problem.
 
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Well, all of my restaurant work all came within the same 2 1/2 year period, and IMO, the stress never "got better" or "became acceptable." Every day, I dealt with the same BS shift work, the same angry customers whining about something different every day, and the same long/tedious 14-hour shifts. It was never a type of job I ENJOYED doing--I merely did it because of the money (at one particular restaurant, a higher-income clientèle Cajun restaurant, I could typically bring home $100 or more per night during a good week). I just got tired of the stressful shifts and long hours after a while. The money just wasn't worth feeling so tired all the time.

Well I would definitely find a restaurant without 14 hour shifts, I wouldn’t tolerate that either. I worked at both the Olive Garden and the Outback Steakhouse. The Olive Garden has split shifts and Outback usually only opens at 4pm. Regardless, just say you’ll work x hours and no more. I learned to let the customers’ complaints roll off me and simply dealt with them as I could.

You're definitely a lot more willing than I am, as far as friends go. I haven't made much of an effort at all to talk with my old friends. Not that it really matters, now--I've been out of college since September 2005 so a lot of my old friends have graduated or will be graduating this Spring...we haven't talked in such a long time.
Just give them a call, and ask them over to play cards or play a video game etc. Perhaps invite them to go on a bike ride, because you want to get back in shape and are looking for a partner…etc. Just call, it won’t hurt anything, the worst they’ll say is no. So what? It does need to be people in town though.

Hopefully, once I finally find a church, maybe I will make some new friends. Either that, or I'm going to turn into one of those lonely losers who are 45 years old and have absolutely no friends whatsoever. :(

As for the church comment, I guess that's not exactly what I meant. I think the hypocrite comment mainly applies to a particular Baptist church I went to whose congregation is largely middle- and higher-income individuals. The church parking lot is full of Mercedes, BMWs, Cadillacs, etc. and they just seem to look down upon everyone else. Maybe I am totally wrong here, but I just called it like I saw it at the time.

As for the other churches, most of them were churches I was invited to by friends. Thus, the particular services I went to were mainly contemporary services, which I absolutely cannot stand. I am a very traditionalist-type worshiper, and when I go to a contemporary worship and I'm the only one who's not getting into the music and who doesn't have my hands up in the air, I feel like I'm doing something wrong.

Additionally...

1) I was born into and raised to the age of 16 in a United Methodist church.
2) At the age of 16, I rejected God and became agnostic for two years.
I did the same thing.
3) At the age of 18, I let God back into my life but did not ever start going back to church.
I was more like 19, but wow, that’s eerie.
4) Between the ages of 18 and 21, I have visited various churches:
I recently attempted to attend my childhood church again, but there are too many bad memories at that church. Additionally, many of the members are the same members who were going there when I was a kid, and it's just awkward for me to be an adult (as opposed to the kid they once knew me as) around these same adults now, plus the fact that they all know I haven't regularly attended the church since I was 16. It's just weird...hard to explain.

I had been looking at the Roman Catholic Church for a while, but several ideas turn me off to it: The need for a priest to forgive sins (only God can forgive my sins), the heavy focus on the Virgin Mary (last I checked, Jesus is the important figure!), the idea of an infallible Pope (I only answer to God--all humans are sinful in nature, unfortunately, including the Pope), and finally, praying to patron Saints to interlude with God on your behalf (again, I only pray to God--I don't need Saints to speak to God for me when I can speak to God himself).

So yea, I have been having a hard time finding a place to call home. I think it is very important for me to find a church in which I can grow in my Christian walk.:cry:
I see a couple things here. First, friends have invited you to Church. Call them to do something besides go to Church. i.e. you do have friends. Remember, one purpose of Church is fellowship and you obviously want fellowship. Also, I mostly agree with you doctrinally, but just attend somewhere, all you need is one friend at the Church, ignore the rest of them. It really doesn’t matter if you don’t enjoy it first. As you state, “Jesus is the important figure!”
 
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Disclaimer: i'm not suggesting these denominations are better than any other (i don't go to any of the ones i'm about to mention at te moment) Just they might correspond to what te OP is aspiring to.

Ok based on my extensive denominational experience...
If you're looking at a traditionnal church minus the catholic theology, why not try

-brethren chuches. Often small, friendly, very bible-based intimate services. risk of encountering hand waving/dancing/tongue speaking close to 0. disadvantage: some can get a bit passionate about minor doctrine issues ( not as much as baptists)

-anglican churches: will remind you of catholic minus the theological issues you mentionned. Services often structured by mild liturgy. They can vary a lot.

-adventist churches: the weight of their theological particularities (vegetarianism, service on saturday, books by ellen white...) really varies from country to country and i wouldn't know what they're like in your area, but speaking for europe they are now theologicaly very close to all other evangelical churches (having relegated the ellen white books to a very secondary role) my experience: generaly good, well-prepared, structured, cringe-free services. Unlikely to have too much hand-raising, and certainly no speaking in tongues.

-lutheran: same remarks as for anglicans. You'll have the traditional service with liturgy. Biblical emphasis strongly varies from church to church.

I know it's hard to find a good church, but no church is perfect. I find that if you settle in on where you ave a few minor issues, you'll often fin that with time you fit in all the same. God will speak to you through whatever place you choose.
 
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I think that it is important for you to realieze God never gives you more than you can handle. YOu need to stop focusing on the negative aspects of life and start focusing on the possitive ones. Thank God that you woke up this moring, that your parents are there for you and allowing you to stay with them. Many people arent that fortunate. I think of the story of Job... God tested Job and he lost everything... his family, money, health, EVERYTHING, but he refused to cruse God and in the end he was rewarded for his dilagents and received everything he lost and more back. So my advice to you would be to read Job and to start rejoycing no matter what... even when your situation isnt the best you thank and praise God that he woke you up this morning, that you have food to eat, clothes on you back, a roof over you head, health, and family that loves and cares about you. I know its easier said then done but just give it a try and see what happens... watch the Lord move on your behalf. I'll keep you in my prayers!
 
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of coarse he is, for god love endures forever and his mercy endures forever...god will forsake you or turn againist his always been my best friend someone i can rely on everytime i felt down.. and our awesome god is no diffrent from me to you...
god bless
 
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You've said before that your parents are not rich and just have enough to support themselves and you. Don't you think you're being selfish by knowing what your parents' financial position is and yet not making much of an effort to find a job and support them?! You're an adult now, you need to take responsibility for yourself and your life.
 
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My brother is/was in a similar situation as you. He was in school for 2 years, dropped out, Had several Jobs...was fired from the one that was actually giving him money. Tried to join the air force and Navy but drugs were the issue. My Parents decided to help him one more time and he has just started college again but he is doing well this time.

In the process of finding this stuff out, He did find out that even though he had some experience with drugs ( I mean serious experience), It was possible for him to join the army. I don't know how you feel about Army, but maybe look there?? Or...Work a temp job to save enough money to take classes at a community college....Do the part time thing...It would take some time but you could be working toward an education. Try working retail...most of them start above minimum wage...God always wants the best for you, but that doesn't mean that you won't suffer the consequences for actions you have done before. You might feel hopeless and angry at God, but if you continue to feel like he doesn't want to help you...How can he?

Psalm 121:2
My help comes from the LORD,
the Maker of heaven and earth

Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
 
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I got accepted to a very good private school right out of high school. I got drunk, partied and was a general idiot. Because of that, i dropped out and moved back home. Talk about tucking your tail between your legs.
Anyway, i enrolled right away at the local community college for the very same degree i dropped out of. Today i'm what most would consider successful.

We all have hard times. How you deal with those hardships is what defines who you are.
 
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I think that it is important for you to realieze God never gives you more than you can handle. YOu need to stop focusing on the negative aspects of life and start focusing on the possitive ones. Thank God that you woke up this moring, that your parents are there for you and allowing you to stay with them. Many people arent that fortunate. I think of the story of Job... God tested Job and he lost everything... his family, money, health, EVERYTHING, but he refused to cruse God and in the end he was rewarded for his dilagents and received everything he lost and more back. So my advice to you would be to read Job and to start rejoycing no matter what... even when your situation isnt the best you thank and praise God that he woke you up this morning, that you have food to eat, clothes on you back, a roof over you head, health, and family that loves and cares about you. I know its easier said then done but just give it a try and see what happens... watch the Lord move on your behalf. I'll keep you in my prayers!
Unfortunately, I am not Job. I wish I had faith like his because it is faith unlike anything I've ever heard of.

Thanks for the post!
 
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What's your plan of action?
Well, thankfully, God finally answered a prayer for me. I can't remember the last time I prayed for something specific to happen in my life and God provided exactly what I asked.

I was given a "third chance" for the Marines. I have a drug test on February 16, and if I'm clean, everything will be fine and I should be off to basic training within a few weeks thereafter.

By February 16, it will have been nearly two months since the last time I used...so I should be clean, without a doubt.

And, thank goodness, I have resisted multiple recent offers from my druggie friends to smoke with them. I'm trying my best to stay strong for the good of my own future. If I can stay away from the drugs now, it could mean a better and happier future for me in the long run.

I hope this works out for me!

To everyone talked about going back to college...while education can be important, there are tons of successful people without an education. I feel that a lot of people these days are driven to get a degree simply because "everyone else is doing it."

As for me, I'm just not focused enough for school. Even if I go back now, I feel like I would get lazy and just drop out again.

Hopefully the Marines can provide the "butt-kicking" I need to get everything back on track for me.
 
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The best way to not take drugs is to stay away from your druggie friends.

Yea, I'm pretty sure that's what I said I did in my previous post. :thumbsup:

I hope it all works out for you. Let us know what happens.

I will. Of course, there will be a three-month long posting hiatus on my part because of basic training. :cool:
 
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