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franky67

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In the light of Jesus' words in Matt. 5:32, knowing that we are under the Blood of Christ, how are we to justify a divorce?

I am not putting this out to start a big argument, I just want some of you theologians out there to help me understand.

Also, I am not devorced, and I do not see a divorced person as lost. I don't think the church at large does either, because there are divorced pastors, and deacons.


Matthew 5:32

But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
 

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"But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to commit adultery, and anyone who marries a woman so divorced commits adultery."
Adultery is the only valid reason. Otherwise, you are to be alone unless you can reconcile.
 
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Divorced people not falling into this catagory have any comments?

Also, I would submit that you don't fall into this catagory if you're using the adultry of your spouse as an excuse to get out of a marriage you've long wanted to get out of anyway.

Also, question, what if both spouses commit adultry? Are they both free and clear to repent and remarry?
 
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Divorced people not falling into this catagory have any comments?

Also, I would submit that you don't fall into this catagory if you're using the adultry of your spouse as an excuse to get out of a marriage you've long wanted to get out of anyway.

Also, question, what if both spouses commit adultry? Are they both free and clear to repent and remarry?
That is a much tougher question. Obviously, it is not unpardonable sin. but, what is right to do afterward?
 
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Right, and how does one repent of something that is ongoing in one's life ? IOW divorced and remarried

Yes, if you've remarried someone and your divorce was not biblically valid and you've come to the place in your life where you want to repent and recommit your life to Christ what do you do?

Leave your spouse because they're not really your spouse and you're biblically still married to the person you divorced (and it gets really messy because they already remarried seeing has how you cheated on them and left the and divorced them and remarried someone else) or do you leave your current spouse and stay single or do you repent every time you have intercourse with your new spouse?

What?

Oh and what do you do about the huge part of the Christian community telling you that you're on your way to hell?
 
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When we are discussing "Divorce and Re-Marriage", this is "case-by-case" of each divorce cases. "Remarriage" is NOT a "blanket sin" when we follow specific biblical parameters. The one of the parameters involve a man who has been widowed, the innocent victim of an unrepentant adulterer (which is my case), or someone who's been abandoned by an unbelieving spouse.

In the concept of God's forgiveness, this also contradicts. God loves us very much and has forgiven our sin (i.e. adultery & divorce) when we confessed it from our heart. He not only forgives our sins but rebuilds our lives from where we are. Love hopes all things (1 Corinth 13). Love refuses to take human failure as final. With Christ in me, my human failures are never final. Love never keeps a record of wrongs. Love forgives and love is unable to think about them anymore. Forget the past and move on. Focus on the future as I focus on Christ at the same time. Romans 4:8 (also Psalms 32:2) "Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against him". That if a local church forgive those who sinned (divorce), our heavenly Father will forgive us. But if we refuse to forgive others, our Father will not forgive our sins. We should all take a long hard look at what things we consider to be important from God's perspective rather than man's perspective.

When I remarried, God acknowledges our new marriage as valid before Him and now holds me and my second wife accountable to be faithful to each other. The marriage covenant is very sacred that my wife and I understand this much more now because of the past. But as Paul says, we need to put the past behind us, accept the forgiveness of Christ and serve and praise Him in the days remaining on this earth.
 
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[BIBLE]Mark 10:2-12[/BIBLE]

The passage that The pharisees were refering to is this one from Deuteronomy.

[BIBLE]Deuteronomy 24:1-4[/BIBLE]

I think this answers the question of returning to the original spouse once a divorce has been granted.
 
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In the light of Jesus' words in Matt. 5:32, knowing that we are under the Blood of Christ, how are we to justify a divorce?

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Although both my wife and I are remarried and both past victims of unwanted divorces, we would never “justify” divorce. IMO, no one hates divorce any more than a divorced person.

Jim



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What if the marriage is warrant for divorce?

I know there are cases where spouses are abused, raped, etc...

Would that justify the divorce, or not?
Truthfully, I do not believe it would be scripturally justified. We have Jesus' words that adultery is the only justified grounds for divorce, and some other scriptures about loving those who continually abuse you. Personally, the thought of someone being abused by a loved one is heartbreaking, truly, to me.
 
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Lev 20:10

There's some interesting marriage imagery in Isa 54:6 ... God relating to His people.

On a practical level -- and God always has dealt with people on a practical level -- there are so many abusive marriages, destructive addictions, dangers to the children, theft issues in marriages. We could glibly condemn people for breaking covenants, but the covenants might already be broken.

When crimes have been committed, often these are not dealt with (within the marriage) because the spouse justifies it or protects the family unit. According to Mosaic Law, punishment for these offenses might have already taken the offender out of the household.
 
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Lev 20:10

There's some interesting marriage imagery in Isa 54:6 ... God relating to His people.

On a practical level -- and God always has dealt with people on a practical level -- there are so many abusive marriages, destructive addictions, dangers to the children, theft issues in marriages. We could glibly condemn people for breaking covenants, but the covenants might already be broken.

When crimes have been committed, often these are not dealt with (within the marriage) because the spouse justifies it or protects the family unit. According to Mosaic Law, punishment for these offenses might have already taken the offender out of the household.
Although we are obviously no longer under Mosiac Law, I like this idea very much. Just not sure about re-marrying under this arrangement. It is something that warrants more study. Not for me personally (My wife only beats me senseless when I really need it, like when I leave the toilet seat up).
 
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NIV said:
But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

I would not apply this as Law . The two may not have been married in the Lord's sight to begin with . I would leave the situation between the Lord and the people involved .
 
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