How does God feel about those who drink alcohol or smoke marijuana?

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Personally, I drink alcohol, and do not see a sin in so doing. I don't, however, get drunk, because I do think that according to the Bible that is a sin.

I find the argument that Jesus made and drank grape juice rather than wine (BTW I've never tasted grape juice, is it nice?) rather odd. Particularly when you look at the miracle at Cana:

John 3:9-10 When the steward of the feast tasted the water now become wine, and did not know where it came from (though the servants who had drawn the water knew), the steward of the feast called the bridegroom and said to him, "Every man serves the good wine first; and when men have drunk freely, then the poor wine; but you have kept the good wine until now." (RSV)

Why would you only serve poor wine after people had drunk a lot of good wine? If it was grape juice you were serving then people would still notice that you had suddenly started serving poor quality wine! The only way that comment makes sense is if they were serving fermented wine, because after the wedding guests had drunk quite a bit of good fermented wine, then they would be less likely to notice poor wine being served later on. Jesus made good quality fermented wine for the guests at Cana.

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Here's the scriptures for ya, speaking on the law of liberty mature Christians have.

Romans 14

1 Corinthians 8

It is really only offense if it makes you stumble, and if it doesn't, you must be sure that it does not make your brother stumble, or that sin will stand.

blessings

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The question is, how much harm? If we show that a glass of red wine a day is good for your health, is it sinful *not* to drink it?

I think that drinking in moderation is well below the kind of "harm" that's generally under consideration. I'm less confident about most drugs, although, to the best of my limited knowledge, marijuana is less harmful than alocohol or tobacco.

I think that, in general, the clear guideline would be to distinguish between things which disrupt your life, and things which don't. If drinking tends to be a problem for you, don't do it. If an occasional glass of wine seems to have no ill effects, don't worry about it.

Just MHO. God's opinion may vary. :)
 
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I could never understand why......if Mormons consider drinking alcohol a sin.............why is alcohol served at Marriott hotels and restaurants?

They are owned by a world famous Mormon--------J. Williard Marriott. The profits are then tithed and sent to Salt Lake City to Mormon headquarters.

Would not that be like one of Jehovah's Witnesses opening up a chain of blood banks????-------Only they do not tithe.
 
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Jesus Christ is our High Priest, The Lord commanded the priest not to drink wine.

Leviticus 10:8-11 And the LORD spake unto Aaron, saying, Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations: And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean; And that ye may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which the LORD hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses.
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Good verse, but this verse refers to Aaron and his sons. If you remember, Jesus is a High priest not after the Aaronic (Levitical) priesthood, but after Melchisedec. If He were a Levitical priest, He would have sinned against God by drinking wine. All things are lawful to us, but not all things are expedient. But we should not be brought under the power of any (paraphrase of I Corinthians 6:12) - this calls for responsibility and being responsible.
 
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(quote) this verse refers to Aaron and his sons.

In a general way, it does give instruction for all who desire to be a priest before God.

1 Peter 2:9a
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
 
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I would offer Jesus a beer, ice tea (sweet tea, I'm a southerner), or water (what we have in the fridge) if he walked into my home. I would not be ashamed since I abuse none of the above. However, I would not offer Him pot. Totally different in my opinion. I say this to those who think pot is okay:

Not everyone who smokes pot will end up on hard drugs; everyone who is on hard drugs started on pot......
 
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No, I disagree. They started with cigarettes, then they got drunk; both, possibly on the same night.

If your going to tell a young person why they should not smoke pot, find some truth to tell them about it and how to redeem the time they have. The first time you lie to them and they experiment and find out they haven't gone berserk like they were told, they will never trust anything else you have to say pertaining to drugs. If you point out how hedonistic life can become just sitting around stoned and that everyone needs to get off their duff and go to work serving others, then you've given them truth plus a goal of giving their lives away just like Jesus did for us.
 
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Originally posted by lared
Why is it that Mormons and Baptists are so similiar?

Healthy, moral behavior is healthy moral behavior. You don't have to be religious to know that smoking, drinking, drugs and sex outside of marriage are unhealthy and immoral.

The fact that both the Baptists and the mormons subscribe to the same standards is purely inadvertent.
 
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Although drinking itself is not a sin, we never know who's watching us and how our actions will affect them. I said that to say this: If we're going to have a drink (me included as I do enjoy the occasional mudslide, or buttery nipple), we need to take great care that no one is going to stumble because of it, and this should not be used to cause division in the church. Of course, if you're so into your alcohol that it causes problems with your church, maybe you shouldn't be drinking.
 
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But is it profitable? The Bible tells us that all things that are lawful are not always profitable, and therefore, logically, if it is not profitable why should we do them?

Let me pose another question with this reply - what do you think of places that sell liquor? Drunkenness is a sin - hopefully we can all agree on that. The reason being drunk is a sin is because it is an abomination in the eyes of God - not because it's illegal. Prostitution is legal in some places - yet this is still a sin, but don't you all think that the one who arranges the "meeting" is sinning as well?

In Romans the first chapter it is written:

"...and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them."

- Romans 1:32

This comes at the end of a long dissertation concerning things that those do who have turned away from God. If this is listed, giving approval to their sin, as being a sin, then how much more would it be to provide for their sin.

What are you thoughts?
 
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Originally posted by aggie03
But is it profitable? The Bible tells us that all things that are lawful are not always profitable, and therefore, logically, if it is not profitable why should we do them?

Let me pose another question with this reply - what do you think of places that sell liquor? Drunkenness is a sin - hopefully we can all agree on that. The reason being drunk is a sin is because it is an abomination in the eyes of God - not because it's illegal. Prostitution is legal in some places - yet this is still a sin, but don't you all think that the one who arranges the "meeting" is sinning as well?

In Romans the first chapter it is written:



This comes at the end of a long dissertation concerning things that those do who have turned away from God. If this is listed, giving approval to their sin, as being a sin, then how much more would it be to provide for their sin.

What are you thoughts?

Actually, I find it rather insulting that you would qualify me as a drunkard for approving of the moderate use of alcohol. But what can I say? They did the same thing to Christ.

And I honestly can't see any parallel between moderate alcohol consumption and prostitution. Sex with someone that is not your wife is adulterous, detestable sin. An occasional drink with family or friends is celebratory fellowship.
 
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No accusations here. Just for our consideration:

Matthew 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
 
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