Originally posted by Susan
I would like to know more on this subject.
Hello Susan! Let me state, as did filosofer that Calvinism and Arminianism are not terms found in the Bible. Contrary to his position, however, the Bible most certainly does support the views espoused by John Calvin.
The main precepts of Calvinism are often identified by the acronym T.U.L.I.P.
I won't go into detail about the individul explanations but if you look at the following threads started by Blackhawk you can get the gist of it:
T - Total Depravity
U - Unconditional Election
L - Limited Atonement
I - Irresistable Grace
P - Peseverance of the Saints
Basically, the emphasis of the doctrines espoused by John Calvin, and many others, is that God is sovereign and effectual in all things. If you put forth that man can "hold off" or "thwart" the Will of God then He is no longer really God. The Scriptures readily attest to God's omnipotence and omniscience and, as such, God has purposed the salvation of those He is pleased to bring to a knowledge of Himself. Man is dead in his trespasses and unable, and unwilling, to be rescued from the quagmire of filth he so vehemently clings to, that of death in the flesh. God, without the cooperation, or permission, of His creation quickens the spirit of those He has predestined for salvation. They are regenerated from death to life and reconciled,
through Christ's death, to the Father. Their salvation is held
for them in Heaven and is an incorruptible seed that shall not fade. The Holy Spirit performs God's perfect work of sanctification by carrying our God's promise that we be made complete and perfect, lacking nothing:
James 1:2-4
My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials,<SUP> </SUP>knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience.<SUP> </SUP>But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.
As much of the hang up about Calvinism seems to spawn from a misunderstanding of the scope of Jesus' perfect work, i.e. limited atonement, let me clarify that it is not the Calvinist teaching that limits the
power of God. On the contrary, it is the Arminianist teaching that God must have the permission of His own creation before enacting His Will. To say that it is God's desire that all men be saved, yet some aren't, is saying outright that God could not accomplish that which He sets out to do.
Susan, my intent in replying was only to enlighten you to the glorious truth of Scripture. I must, however, try and clear up an important point of contention for many on this board. I often hear things like, "Calvin altered this" or "Luther rewrote this, or included this word." The issue comes about due to incorrect interpretation that has become mainstream Christian theology. Therefore, the masses grow up learning a falsehood. I have no doubt God will work this to the good of His body but I would like to point one thing out. The word "all" in the Bible is used in two ways,
all without distinction and
all without exception.
For example, look at the following:
Mark 1:5
Then
all the land of Judea, and those from Jerusalem, went out to him and were
all baptized by him in the Jordan River, confessing their sins.
Does this mean that
every man, woman and child from "
all the land of Judea and they of Jerusalem" was baptized of John in Jordon? Surely not. Luke 7:30 distinctly says, "But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves,
being not baptized of him." Then what does "
all baptized of him" mean? It means
all without distinction,
not all without exception. The same explanation applies to Luke 3:21:
Luke 3:21
When
all the people were baptized, it came to pass that Jesus also was baptized; and while He prayed, the heaven was opened.
Again in John 8:2:
Now early in the morning He came again into the temple, and
all the people came to Him; and He sat down and taught them.
Are we to understand this expression absolutely or relatively? Does "
all the people" mean all without exception, or all without distinction, that is, all classes and conditions of people? Obviously the latter; for the Temple was not able to accommodate
everybody that was in Jerusalem at this time.
Susan, there is so much more that testifies to these facts that I would be happy to explain to you. I strongly suggest you check out a book called "The Sovereignty of God" by A.W. Pink. It costs about 5 dollars and it's one of the best 5 dollars I've ever spent. I have never seen a better dissertation on this inescapable truth.
God bless.