Nigeria considers same-sex marriage ban
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I would support this law but I do not agree with prohibiting gays from associating with each other.
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Both have their origins in hate. and both have the same outcomes...Killing someone is just fasterThis post is disgusting. How can you compare discrimination to killing?
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One can discriminate against a person without hating him. Discrimination is even practiced by businesses like movie theatres. Ever heard of price discrimination? Ever noticed how movie theatres seem to charge less for people that go to matinees than for people who watch their movies at night or on the weekends? Is there hate involved when companies practice price discrimination?
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Im sorry but when I read this I went into coughing fits. Turns out that milk actually CAN go up and out your nose when you drink it.
How can this NOT be discrimination? Would you consider it discrimination if the rule applied to blacks or hispanics?
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Not just discrimination. But also criminalisation of groups which support Gays or which might take cases supporting them against the courts / Parliament in NIgeria.
So not only illegal to BE Gay but also illegal to help them or to support them.
So not only illegal to BE Gay but also illegal to help them or to support them.
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Interesting story, but nothing to get excited about people. It is fascinating to watch other sovereign nations decide which laws they will enact-this concerns only the Nigerians on this board. I would be more interested in hearing what they say about this law that will affect their countrymen if passed.
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you know, for kids!
It concerns anyone who is in the least bit interested in human rights. It's their government and of course a sovereign nation has the ability to make laws as they see fit, but anyone who cares for the fate of those who will be so severely discriminated against if this law passes should be concerned.
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LovesTruth
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We people of faith love our Nigerian brothers and sisters. What they do affects God's blessings upon Nigeria.
When they ban immorality, God is pleased and blesses them. That is a wonderful lesson for us.
God wants Christians to discriminate against evil. I do! Let the discrimination continue in our lives, our churches, and our hearts before God.
Wisdom is to love God and to hate evil. Love the sinner and hate the sin. God set the example.
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Blackness
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Ooops, lol
who cares, I am going to still support it. No matter what those tyrants say.Oh and LovesTruth, what ever happend to Love thy neighbor and LOVE your enemies? Would Jesus discriminate? HA! NO! Jesus did not go to the tax collector's house to sit there and discriminate against him.
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Jesus certainly would not stand up for gay marriage. The Bible and Christian tradition clearly states that homosexual acts are sinful.Ooops, lol
Oh and LovesTruth, what ever happend to Love thy neighbor and LOVE your enemies? Would Jesus discriminate? HA! NO! Jesus did not go to the tax collector's house to sit there and discriminate against him.
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Blackness
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Did Jesus say anything about homosexuality? NO, so if it was such a big deal to God as many Christians say it is, he would have mentioned it at least once (if not more), but no he talked about loving and accepting. Who cares about Christian tradition, I want to know about CHRIST'S tradition, not tradition created by others.
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That one believes homosexual acts to be immoral and that one believes they ought to be prohibited by law are two very different things. And the latter can only follow from the former with the addition of the central idea that legislating personal morality is OK.
I see so many people jumping from 'It seems wrong to me' to 'It is immoral' and then to 'It should be illegal'. Neither of the second two statements follow on from the previous one, and we have to stop pretending that they do.
And as for this only being an issue for Nigeria, I can see the point, but I think it is very important that we are all concerned about this, or any other attack on personal liberties. Out of a genuine concern for the freedom of our brothers and sisters around the world, and secondly to protect ourselves by doing all we can to eradicate the spread of this sort of hatred.
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I see so many people jumping from 'It seems wrong to me' to 'It is immoral' and then to 'It should be illegal'. Neither of the second two statements follow on from the previous one, and we have to stop pretending that they do.
And as for this only being an issue for Nigeria, I can see the point, but I think it is very important that we are all concerned about this, or any other attack on personal liberties. Out of a genuine concern for the freedom of our brothers and sisters around the world, and secondly to protect ourselves by doing all we can to eradicate the spread of this sort of hatred.
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Well said!
Personally, I'm a little suspicious of the Bible extracts which say that homosexuality is wrong. Apparently, a lot of schoolars are doubtful as to whether any of those references (there are eight in the whole bible, I think) are properly done- it could just as easily have meant something else.
Also, even if Jesus does think that homosexual acts are wrong, I can think of no time where he went out of his way to force someone who did not want to change to do so. Can you?
I think that, if it is your bag, by all means say you think homosexuality is sin and respectfully try to explain why to those around you (it is a free country, after all), but to actively discriminate against gays and make them change is a totally different realm altogether. Passing a law against homosexuality won't do anything to recommend the word of God, it will just put people off and draw them farther away from Jesus, which I'm guessing is the last thing any of us want. People have to make these decisions for themselves, being physically unable to without breaking the law won't make them any more righteous in the eyes of God if they still want to. (Note that I am still working on the assumption that homosexuality really is a sin...)
As Christians, we used to, and still are, be discriminated also. I realise that we are being persecuted for very different reasons, but I think we owe it to the Christians who suffered for their faith not to make anyone else go through something similar.
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Blackness
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One of the reasons I think Christians today are discriminated against are because of the acts of a few (the Christian extremist, Phelps ect..), I do hope people tell the difference between certain Christians and Christ, because people might start thinking this is how Christ would really act (in fact I am in a chat room where somone just said somthing very blasphemous about Jesus), it seems that people are confused between the two, very sad.Well said!
Personally, I'm a little suspicious of the Bible extracts which say that homosexuality is wrong. Apparently, a lot of schoolars are doubtful as to whether any of those references (there are eight in the whole bible, I think) are properly done- it could just as easily have meant something else.
Also, even if Jesus does think that homosexual acts are wrong, I can think of no time where he went out of his way to force someone who did not want to change to do so. Can you?
I think that, if it is your bag, by all means say you think homosexuality is sin and respectfully try to explain why to those around you (it is a free country, after all), but to actively discriminate against gays and make them change is a totally different realm altogether. Passing a law against homosexuality won't do anything to recommend the word of God, it will just put people off and draw them farther away from Jesus, which I'm guessing is the last thing any of us want. People have to make these decisions for themselves, being physically unable to without breaking the law won't make them any more righteous in the eyes of God if they still want to. (Note that I am still working on the assumption that homosexuality really is a sin...)
As Christians, we used to, and still are, be discriminated also. I realise that we are being persecuted for very different reasons, but I think we owe it to the Christians who suffered for their faith not to make anyone else go through something similar.
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You are mistaking discernment (telling different things apart) and discrimination (denying equal access to a group based on personal prejudice)
A movie theatre refusing to sell a ticket to a person because he is not wearing shoes is discernment. A movie theater refusing to sell a ticket to a person because of the color of his skin is discrimination.
When one discriminates one judges not just individuals but entire groups based on ones prejudice and hate not on the individual merit of the minority being discriminated against.
To judge an entire minority as unworthy of equality is not discernment it is an act of hate.
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