I am beging to hate god

waterdragon · Nov 11, 2006

I am really mad right now....I am angry with god ...sense i can rember hears how my life has gone ....when i was really little and was an only child my parts fought and fought and that screwed with my head and that made my life a living hell and when i say fought i don't mean just screaming i mean beting each other up stabbing each other with things beating each other till blood came out and stiches and casts were needed....then my parents got a devorce ....my dad took me ...bye that time i had 2 little sisters both to young to take care of themselves both still in dipers I was around 7 and my dad met a nother lady they got married oh yea i forgot to mention my dadwas a huge drugatic through all of this and still is... well the new woman had to boys both still in dipers ....for the next 5 to 7 years i spent my life taking care of 4 children and minde you the child caring i had to do started when i was seven and ended when i was around 13 that whole time evry day i would coock for them clean the house do ALLL of the cleaning make shure they got in bed made shure the ones that were old enuf got up and whent to school in rthe mornings the whole time my stepmom and my dad were laid up in bed doing drugs and having sex ... my dad all ways lost his jobs and got us kicked out of every were we liverd so we were constantly moving .... this whole time i was in hell ... now i am finally away from him and his abuse and i live with my mom (me and my little sisters) and she screams none stop and the little girls drive me crazy ....but thrugh all of that i have trid to stay good and minde god and be a good cristian .. but after all of that hell i am condimed to hell when i die because i am gay ....now what kinde of god ...huw has the power to do any thing he wants and I am shure has been thruogh no hardships ...would send me to hell over being gay after all of that .... were does he have the right to judge me after all i have beeen through and he has been through nothing tell me what kinde of god does that to some one he soposedly "loves" cause god love all Right

Faith In God · Nov 12, 2006

How much of this is God responsible for?

Isn't it because God WASN'T in any of this that these hardships came about?

I'm sorry about that. But if anyone goes to hell, it will NOT be because of one "little" thing. It will be because of all of their sins. If you can tell me the ONLY sin you've ever committed in your life is being gay...

Do what you know is right, trust God fully with every fiber of your being and every action to be your good Lord, and He WILL be your good Lord. Through it all. If you let little pieces of yourself do their own thing...

:prayer:

waterdragon · Nov 12, 2006

no being gay is not the only si i have commited i have a list so long it wold take every peace of paper in the world to wright it down...but i can repent for those sins and stop doing them and he will forgive me but even if i repent for being gay I cant stop doing it belive me i have tried

RaddMadd · Nov 12, 2006

waterdragon said:
no being gay is not the only si i have commited i have a list so long it wold take every peace of paper in the world to wright it down...but i can repent for those sins and stop doing them and he will forgive me but even if i repent for being gay I cant stop doing it belive me i have tried

Jesus died for your sins, have faith that He can save you from it

ALIgator · Nov 12, 2006

First off I just want to say that I really respect you for taking care of your siblings for so long. That really says a lot about your character.

There are a couple things from your post that I want to address.

waterdragon said:
now what kinde of god ...huw has the power to do any thing he wants and I am shure has been thruogh no hardships

No hardships? I don't know about you, but I would say that being nailed to a cross is a hardship.

waterdragon said:
were does he have the right to judge me after all i have beeen through and he has been through nothing

Like I said before, it's not fair or you to say that he's been through nothing. Not only that, but Jesus never sinned and did not deserve to go through any of that. We deserve hell, yet we are given life.

waterdragon said:
tell me what kinde of god does that to some one he soposedly "loves" cause god love all Right

I know this has been really rough for you and you have every right to be upset, but God is not doing this to you. The things that you've had to deal with are consequences of the sin in the world. God will never ever let you go through anything which you're not strong enough to handle. If you've been through this much, you must be a very strong person, and I'm sure He's using these hardships to make you even stronger.

Have you read the book of Job? You might find that you're able to relate to a lot of the pain and anger that Job felt.

And, finally, when God says that something is a sin, it means that He can and will deliever you from it. Don't have the attitude that you will always be gay, instead have faith that God will help you get through this.

I will keep you in my prayers. Feel free to send me a PM anytime.

~Ali

Aaron_3521 · Nov 12, 2006

Actually one goes to hell for not believing in Him and following Him, all one must do is believe in Him. The impact of the cross is then given to us default and all our sins are forgiven us, forever.

Suffering too, is not of God, but we are rewarded through it, as it shows who has genuine faith.

onajourney87 · Nov 12, 2006

I totally suck at encouraging folks and while I've been through hell, I'd be nuts to claim it is as bad as what you've dealt with and are dealing with...

I have no clue why God allows half the stuff on this earth to happen; I know intellectually that He will bring justice one day, but I have a hard timie bringing that knowledge into my day-to-day life when I find out a friend was raped by her so-called father or a friend overdosed and died or someone else got tortured for weeks in Iraq and is hardly recongnizable now.

So I'm not gonna try and explain why God has allowed all the crap to happen to you.

Jesus did two things for us dude:
1) set us in right before God
2) freed us from our sinful selves and freed us from the sins committed against us

The first thing, setting us right before God, deals with God looking at us and instead of masturbating to inappropriate content (be it gay or straight or whatever), cussing someone out, being unfaithful in their relationship with Jesus, etc... God instead sees Jesus, perfect, flawless, and sinless. So that's how God sees you; not gay, not sinful, but He simply sees Jesus who is perfect. And it because He sees Jesus, you are saved from Hell.
No one is moral enough for God to look at and not send to Hell. The only way we ever get saved from Hell is if God looks at Jesus instead of us.
We all are broken, screwed up people helplessly lost and often betraying God over and over; but He sees Jesus and as such we get Heaven when we should be given Hell.

Now the second part sadly goes missing in a lot of Christian teaching today, but it's totally Biblical. When the Bible says that "by His wounds we are healed" it meant it literally; Jesus took all the crap committed against us on Himself and will heal us of it. It's not instant, healing takes time. But healing is there.
Not only did Jesus take the sins committed against us and bring healing to us, He also freed us from our sinful nature; the part of us that all it wants to do is sin and that makes us depressed and angry over a seeming lack of ability to conquer it.. if we follow Jesus and learn to live by the power He gives and not by the power we think we have, we can say no to our sinful nature. Again, it's not instant; it takes time.

SteadyRock · Nov 12, 2006

that is why there needs to be judgement this life is not fair. but God wants the people to have a chance to repent first.

you will see the judgement of these people, but pray for love.

Faith In God · Nov 12, 2006

Here_I_am said:
This thread may be locked, but you can choose whether or not to have gay sex. People may debate on the origin of homosexual feelings and such, but everyone on here can agree that you can stop or not have gay sex.

btw, if my post sounded harsh, I am sorry. I meant it all out of brotherly love.

I'm just going to take one second out of this thread to address this.

Everyone is born with sinful tendencies. No one is without hope of being cleansed by God.

Aaron_3521 · Nov 13, 2006

osmaker said:
I totally suck at encouraging folks and while I've been through hell, I'd be nuts to claim it is as bad as what you've dealt with and are dealing with...

I have no clue why God allows half the stuff on this earth to happen; I know intellectually that He will bring justice one day, but I have a hard timie bringing that knowledge into my day-to-day life when I find out a friend was raped by her so-called father or a friend overdosed and died or someone else got tortured for weeks in Iraq and is hardly recongnizable now.

So I'm not gonna try and explain why God has allowed all the crap to happen to you.

Jesus did two things for us dude:
1) set us in right before God
2) freed us from our sinful selves and freed us from the sins committed against us

The first thing, setting us right before God, deals with God looking at us and instead of seeing a sinful guy jacking to inappropriate contento (be it gay or straight or whatever), cussing someone out, being unfaithful in their relationship with Jesus, etc... God instead sees Jesus, perfect, flawless, and sinless. So that's how God sees you; not gay, not sinful, but He simply sees Jesus who is perfect. And it because He sees Jesus, you are saved from Hell.
No one is moral enough for God to look at and not send to Hell. The only way we ever get saved from Hell is if God looks at Jesus instead of us.
We all are broken, screwed up people helplessly lost and often betraying God over and over; but He sees Jesus and as such we get Heaven when we should be given Hell.

Now the second part sadly goes missing in a lot of Christian teaching today, but it's totally Biblical. When the Bible says that "by His wounds we are healed" it meant it literally; Jesus took all the crap committed against us on Himself and will heal us of it. It's not instant, healing takes time. But healing is there.
Not only did Jesus take the sins committed against us and bring healing to us, He also freed us from our sinful nature; the part of us that all it wants to do is sin and that makes us depressed and angry over a seeming lack of ability to conquer it.. if we follow Jesus and learn to live by the power He gives and not by the power we think we have, we can say no to our sinful nature. Again, it's not instant; it takes time.

Great post, but I do have to point out one thing. The whole "by his stripes we are healed" thing is not actually to do with healing - it is a reference to the forgiveness we have of our sins. You are correct in saying though that we appear holy and blameless before God because of Christ, who has taken away the penalty of ultimate doom from us.

tessas212 · Nov 13, 2006

waterdragon said:
were does he have the right to judge me after all i have beeen through and he has been through nothing

Nothing, eh?

You say you were responsible for your brothers and sisters. So perhaps you can understand.

When you have a child, that child means the world to you. You would give your life for that child. You want more than anything for that child to grow up to be a good person.. and if that child starts turning in the wrong direction, it hurts you more than anything. Because YOU want to help, but you can't force help upon a person. They must accept it.

You are God's child. Every day is a hardship for Him. Every day He has to see His children go through horrible things. And every day He wants more than anything for all those children to know His love, to feel it, to accept it.. He has to live with the heartache of knowing that not all of his children will someday make it back to Him.

prismsmiles · Nov 14, 2006

Hmm.... to Aaaron_2521, I somehow do think the verse in Isaiah about "By His Stripes we are healed" thing is about physical healing and is Biblically correct.

You see in Leviticus and Deutoronomy and stuff God put curses of sickness and diseases on the people who were to do certain sins or etc and it was called the" curse of the law". These curses were before Christ's death and would fall on those whom he had cursed.

Later in Galations 3:13 it says
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree.
Luka 10:9
And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.

Therefore we have been redeemed from these curses. GOd opened the way for forgiveness, yes, a direct connection with him and wiped away many of the laws of old (e.g. killing animals for atonement and the Sabbath as a law) and also took away all these curses.

So yes, by Christ dying on the cross, he defeated the Devil, he who inflicts sickness, and then by allowing us to be made whole again and connecting us with God, he as also given us the authority over the Devil and sickness .....

Luke 10:19
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Luke 9:1
Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases.

Okieee dokes. SO thats my 2 cents worth of what I have been taught.

God Bless!

lilbeliever · Dec 2, 2006

no-one sed life was going to be easy
But God is dere every step of the way

Love88 · Dec 2, 2006

i dont understand it either, so im not even going to pretend to understand. but he DOES love you, more than youll ever know.

Bornagain15 · Dec 2, 2006

waterdragon said:
no being gay is not the only si i have commited i have a list so long it wold take every peace of paper in the world to wright it down...but i can repent for those sins and stop doing them and he will forgive me but even if i repent for being gay I cant stop doing it belive me i have tried

The Bible says that God never allows you to be tempted beyond what you can resist (James 1:13). It sounds like you realize that you've sinned, but have you repented of that sin? I don't mean just saying you're sorry. I mean turning away from sin and giving your life to Christ because He is so kind as to offer you salvation from hell. This won't necessarily make your life better, but it will give you eternal life.

powie · Dec 3, 2006

ALIgator said:
First off I just want to say that I really respect you for taking care of your siblings for so long. That really says a lot about your character.

There are a couple things from your post that I want to address.

No hardships? I don't know about you, but I would say that being nailed to a cross is a hardship.

Like I said before, it's not fair or you to say that he's been through nothing. Not only that, but Jesus never sinned and did not deserve to go through any of that. We deserve hell, yet we are given life.

I know this has been really rough for you and you have every right to be upset, but God is not doing this to you. The things that you've had to deal with are consequences of the sin in the world. God will never ever let you go through anything which you're not strong enough to handle. If you've been through this much, you must be a very strong person, and I'm sure He's using these hardships to make you even stronger.

Have you read the book of Job? You might find that you're able to relate to a lot of the pain and anger that Job felt.

And, finally, when God says that something is a sin, it means that He can and will deliever you from it. Don't have the attitude that you will always be gay, instead have faith that God will help you get through this.

I will keep you in my prayers. Feel free to send me a PM anytime.

~Ali

It is funny that you reference the book of job. The book of job tells the story of a bet satan has with god, stating that god's most faithful will not turn from faith if beset with hardship. And so, God sends hardship. Job's family is killed, he is given boils on his face, all the while, satan hoping he will abandon his faith, and god hoping he will not. Job is beset with hardship and God wins, even after allowing Job's family to be murdered and wealth to be plundered. The story ends with Job enjoying his god-given boon of family and wealth. All returns to normal.

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faithgirl · Dec 3, 2006

I am so sorry for everything you have and are going through. A home life has been everything to me.

I also struggle with being angry at God. Two of my friends lives were taken in car accidents that were not their fault. I found myself blaming God and asking him why he let this happen. The answer is we don't know. As much as you don't want to hear it we don't. Like in my sig "I am not skilled to understand what God has willed what God has planned" from the song My Savior, My God helps me out lots. Being a Christian will ultimatly win you the biggest prize. Life in heaven. As much as you hate life on earth it is only temporary.

God loves you and he accepts you for who you are. Remember that. No matter what you are struggling with God will do his best to pull you out of it. Nothing is more pleasing to God than someone who tells Him that they surrender to Him and allow Him to try to change the wrong in their life. If you wanna talk ever, pm me.

AJB4 · Dec 4, 2006

I think that one reason God allows suffering to happen (and all suffering must eventually be laid down before the Devil, or men) is because he wants to 'test' us, to see how faithful we are. If we are faithful, then of course we're going to get a hard time from the Devil. It's part of the Christian life. We suffer, but we don't let go of the hope of eternal salvation we have, and that keeps us striving forward, through all of the hardships in this life. It's so hard to remember sometimes that this life is only temporary, and either better days, or worse days, are coming in the next life, depending on how faithful we are.

Don't blame God, blame the Devil. God could take away all of the suffering in this world, but in the end, earthly suffering is for our own good. Not only does it make us stronger people (if we let it), it also gives us a teeny tiny percentage of what Jesus felt like as the sins of the entire world were placed on his shoulders as he was nailed to the cross.

DanMan · Dec 4, 2006

My biggest struggle in life is that I've had no struggles--or at least that that many. I don't understand, and that's what is hard for me--to believe in a God that has kept me safe, but others get hurt. But, I believe God is a good God. I believe God loves you. And I believe that love is so powerful, it can save us from any end. That is my greatest encouragement to you, and I'm sorry to say the most I can give.

Know this: you need to know the magnitude of God's love for you. God I pray You love on him tonight. God does love you. Don't let anyone or anything--even yourself--tell you otherwise. And you need to know that love. Love of a Father, Friend, Savior, and much more.

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