35 countries meet on Iran nuclear intentions

Exonoesis · Dec 1, 2006

soblessed53 said:
That is a "sweet" thought,but such actions anger the rest of the world,unless the majority agree he is a threat. Since he has mostly threatened Israel and America, they really don't care.

Please prove that he has threatened Israel and America.

JPPT1974 said:
That is a very scary thought as I
Don't know why that maniac dictator of
Theirs can't be removed from office asap
Before it is too late.

What maniac dictator?

soblessed53 said:
Umm,let's see the President of Iran has said in no uncertain terms that Israel needs to be annihilated and has also expressed a similiar wish when speaking of the U.S. ie the great satan,and Israel ie the little satan! Any thinking person should see what he intends.

Prove it.

soblessed53 · Dec 1, 2006

Exonoesis said:
I don't think he ever said anything about killing them; I think he wants the Jews moved.

Ahmadinejad: Israel’s destruction near
Published: 11.13.06, 08:53
AHMADINEJAD SAYS ISRAEL'S DESTRUCTION IS NEAR NOV 13
According to the Iranian media Monday, Iranian President Mahoud Ahmadinejad declared that Israel was destined to ‘disappearance and destruction’ at a council meeting with Iranian ministers.
“The western powers created the Zionist regime in order to expand their control of the area. This regime massacres Palestinians everyday, but since this regime is against nature, we will soon witness its disappearance and destruction,” Ahmadinejad said. (AFP)

http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3083,00.html

This was on the news over and over again,as well! :doh:

Ahmadinejad warns Europe it will pay for backing Israel
We have advised the Europeans that the Americans are far away, but you are the neighbours of the nations in this region," he said. "We inform you that the nations are like an ocean that is welling up, and if a storm begins, the dimensions will not stay limited to Palestine, and you may get hurt. It is in your own interest to distance yourself from these criminals ... this is an ultimatum. Don't complain tomorrow."
Mr Ahmadinejad, who last year called for Israel to be "wiped off the map" and dismissed the holocaust as a "myth", has not previously made such a clear distinction between US and European support for Israel.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,1927936,00.html

Iran: Nuclear program will be operating by February
"I will soon send a message to the American people. The message is in the stage of preparation," he said. Without elaborating, he said his message would be in response to U.S. government statements.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/14/iran.nuclear/index.html

UN Racism Expert Confronts Ahmadinejad's Anti-Semitism
Will the UN allow itself to be exploited by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s denial of the Nazi Holocaust, and his incitement to genocide against Israel, which is home to more than half of the world’s surviving Jewish people? One day before Ayatollah Khomeini's heir is set to address the General Assembly plenary, the evidence is mixed.
http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=bdKKISNqEmG&b=1317481&ct=2941499

Iran's P-2 +centrifuge
http://archive.gulfnews.com/indepth/irancrisis/more_stories/10033955.html

Thousands Respond to Call for Martyrs
The 300 men filling out forms in the offices of an Iranian aid group were offered three choices: train for suicide attacks against US troops in Iraq, or train for suicide attacks against Israelis. Or train to assassinate British author Salman Rushdie.
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=873

TheProfessional · Dec 1, 2006

Point 2: If the terrorist state of Israel can have nukes then why can't Iran? I'd trust the Iranians with nukes over the Jews any day.

That's just ignorant. How many suicide bombers are Jews, and how many of the are radical Muslims, which is exactly who controls Iran.

A minute of examination will show you just how wrong you are.

Jews != Isreal. While a third of the Jewish population does live there, Israel does not represent Judaism as a whole. When you say "I would trust Iran over the Jews", it makes you sound like anyone who is Jewish is somehow innately untrustworthy.

3

I have little doupt that's what he actually thinks.

The Bad Templar · Dec 21, 2006

*bump*

Exonoesis? Exonoesis?

Someone call an ambulance!

CCGirl · Dec 21, 2006

JPPT1974 said:
That is a very scary thought as I
Don't know why that maniac dictator of
Theirs can't be removed from office asap
Before it is too late.

Wouldn't that be up to the Iranian people??

cyberfugue · Dec 22, 2006

JPPT1974 · Dec 23, 2006

The Iranian people have no
Say in what they do with their leader
My friends. Sad but true.
Always thought the USA and their allies
Would have a say.

TheIranianCanadian · Dec 23, 2006

"Israel" has created the largest refugee population in the world: Palestinians.

They've lived as refugees for 60 years.

The west doesn't see them as humans.

Something like 25% of all people in the media are Jewish, and while many of them aren't Zionists (IOW. aren't part of a Jewish organization that supports the Israeli regime), enough of them are that it affects the media slant in the US.

The Israeli lobby, which is funded by some of the richest people in the world, is documented to be enormously powerful.

The US, in the form of grant and gauranteed loans, gives Israel $10 Billion a year.

This is enough to create about 10,000 Jewish Zionist millionaires a year.

This money is used to further strengthen the Jewish political apparatus, which in turn fund pro-Israel media and the Israel lobby.

It's a cycle.

Israel has almost completel control over America.

TheIranianCanadian · Dec 23, 2006

here is an excerpt from a paper written by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt: dean of Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.

The Israel Lobby

John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt

For the past several decades, and especially since the Six-Day War in 1967, the centrepiece of US Middle Eastern policy has been its relationship with Israel. The combination of unwavering support for Israel and the related effort to spread ‘democracy’ throughout the region has inflamed Arab and Islamic opinion and jeopardised not only US security but that of much of the rest of the world. This situation has no equal in American political history. Why has the US been willing to set aside its own security and that of many of its allies in order to advance the interests of another state? One might assume that the bond between the two countries was based on shared strategic interests or compelling moral imperatives, but neither explanation can account for the remarkable level of material and diplomatic support that the US provides.

dignitized · Dec 23, 2006

Exonoesis said:
Please prove that he has threatened Israel and America.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/20/world/main2110011.shtml

http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1216

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/12/iran.holocaust.conference.reut/index.html

http://www.adl.org/main_Anti_Semitism_International/ahmadinejad_words.htm

I can't imagine with the mountains of evidence available on the web that anyone could possibly believe that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is anything other than a a raging anti Semite and future mass murderer.

dignitized · Dec 23, 2006

CCGirl said:
Wouldn't that be up to the Iranian people??

The Iranian people are about as free as are the Cuban people. :sigh:

dignitized · Dec 23, 2006

TheIranianCanadian said:
"Israel" has created the largest refugee population in the world: Palestinians.

They've lived as refugees for 60 years.

The west doesn't see them as humans.

Something like 25% of all people in the media are Jewish, and while many of them aren't Zionists (IOW. aren't part of a Jewish organization that supports the Israeli regime), enough of them are that it affects the media slant in the US.

The Israeli lobby, which is funded by some of the richest people in the world, is documented to be enormously powerful.

The US, in the form of grant and gauranteed loans, gives Israel $10 Billion a year.

This is enough to create about 10,000 Jewish Zionist millionaires a year.

This money is used to further strengthen the Jewish political apparatus, which in turn fund pro-Israel media and the Israel lobby.

It's a cycle.

Israel has almost completel control over America.

TheIranianCanadian · Dec 23, 2006

Mordechai Vanunu is pretty free huh Br. Max?

CCGirl · Dec 23, 2006

Br. Max said:
The Iranian people are about as free as are the Cuban people.

Exactly. So they have control over their lives. Leave them alone. The last thing anyone needs is more meddling by the USA.

The hypocrisy of these actions is disgusting. :sick:

icedtea · Dec 23, 2006

CCGirl said:
Exactly. So they have control over their lives.

That is a funny joke. I can do without that kind of "control."

dignitized · Dec 23, 2006

CCGirl said:
Exactly. So they have control over their lives. Leave them alone. The last thing anyone needs is more meddling by the USA.

The hypocrisy of these actions is disgusting.

right control over their lives . . . . The cuban people got to to choose from what? 1 person during their last election? NOW THAT - That's freedom . . . .

Iran? they get to choose - as long as they choose who the Ayatollahs want them to pick . . . .

cyberfugue · Dec 23, 2006

CCGirl said:
Exactly. So they have control over their lives. Leave them alone. The last thing anyone needs is more meddling by the USA.
The hypocrisy of these actions is disgusting.

Why don't you live in Cuba? Just curious why your family left.

icedtea · Dec 23, 2006

More freedom in Canada.

cyberfugue · Dec 23, 2006

HowardDean said:
More freedom in Canada.

Exactly.

CCGirl · Dec 23, 2006

cyberfugue said:
Why don't you live in Cuba? Just curious why your family left.

I am Canadian. I have the Cuban flag on display as a sign of solidarity with the people and the revolution. PM me if you really want to know more.

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