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Paul Is A Deceivers !
That is debatable of course.

Paul did have his work cut out for him explaining to his followers and the pagan unbelievers what the "resurrection" of the Lord symbolized to Israel and the Jews.

He used a lot of OT jewish symbology concerning the "Day of the Lord" spoken of by the Lord Jesus in the Gospels. Thoughts? :wave:

Mat 13:49 So 3779 shall it be 2071 at 1722 the End4930 of the age 165: the angels 32 shall come forth 1831 , and 2532 sever 873 the wicked 4190 from 1537 among 3319 the just 1342,

http://ourworld.cs.com/preteristabcs/id84.htm

The Lord will descend to do battle against the powers of darkness and to deliver his elect once and for all. The “cry of command,” “the archangel's call,” and “the sound of the trumpet of God” are very likely apocalyptic expressions for the same occurrence, namely the summons of Christ to gather his people (cf. Matt 24:31) and to enact judgment upon the impenitent (cf. 2 Thess 1:8-10). As is common among portrayals of theophanies, these three phrases qualify each other as demonstrations of the divine summons which are seen and heard by faith amidst natural conditions, such as a tremendous storm. Thunder is used to describe both the voice of God (Exod 19:19; Job 37:4-5; 40:9; Ps 29:3; 77:18; Rev 4:5) and the voice of his angels (Rev 6:1; 10:3-4; 19:6 [saints and/or angels]). Thus, the “cry of command,” whether it comes from God, Christ, or an angel, is further explained by the sound of “the archangel's call,” both of which are described in Scripture by the sound of thunder. Finally, the voice of God (Exod 19:16; 20:18; Zeph 9:14; Rev 4:1), the risen Christ (Rev 1:10) as well as the possible voice of the angels are all described by means of the trumpet, which is associated in the OT with the theophanic coming of God (Exod 19:16; Isa 27:13), particularly in judgment.
 
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The following are some of the viewpoint by famous Christian scholars and historians . < Christian historian James Mackinon admits openly > . The train of thought is distinctively his own . Whether it is altogether in accord with the mind of Jesus is not so evident in spite of his claim in direct revelation .. at the same time . Jesus conception of the law is hardly in accordance with that of Paul .. in this respect Saul , Shaool , Paul's - claim that his received his gospel by revelation from Christ is rather problematic .


< James Mackinon > states in his own words in this book titled , Christ to Constanting as follows . '' At his conversion he went away into Arabic
( Nabatae ) - apparently to think out the implications of his new faith , rather than to preach to Nabataeans . It was only three years later that he went to Jerusalem to visit Peter and James . the Lord's brother , presumably to consult them on the tradition about Jesus .

The Encyclopedia Britannica , Inc . by William Benton , Publisher , 1943-1973 A.D. Helen Hemingway Benton Publisher , 1973-1974 A.D. states ; Paul quickly saw the need to stay in a quiet and peaceful area where he could reflect over his new position . Hence he went to the southern regions of Damascus .. the main problem facting him was to interpret the law and teachings of Jesus in a new form in the light of his own novel experience .

The Encyclopedia Britannica decribes the word of Paul ; One group among the writers . represented for example by W . Wrede, who was by no means opposed to Paul , opine that Paul changed Christianity to such an extent that he has become its second founder . In reality he is the founder of that church Christianity which is totally different from the Christianity taught by Jesus simultaneously ,

In a book titled The Black Messiah . By Albert B. Cleage Jr . of the Shrine of the Black Madonna , it states , ... there is the spiritualized Jesus , reconstructed many years later by the Apostle Paul who never knew Jesus and who modified his teaching to conform to the pagan philosophies of the WHITE GENTILES . Considering himself an apostle to the gentiles , Paul preached individual salvation and life after death . We , as black Christians suffering appression in a white man's land do not need the individualistic and other worldly doctrines of Paul and the white man .

So it is clear that Saul , Shaool , Paul teaching were not in agreement with Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus or the original disciples who also questioned him him about what he was teaching , This is nothing we made up . Other Christian scholars who took the time to study the original language that The Holy Bible was written in also see Saul , Shaool , Paul's discrepancies. We worship on Elyon El . The Father Of Us All . The God Of Jesus and we follow The Messiah Yashu'a Isa , Jesus and Makhud , Muhammad , Mohamet and Al Mahdi and want to bring their teachings back to its pristine purity as the true words of The Most High , The Highest .

On the other hand , those who followers of Saul . Shaool . Paul , are slowly removing Yashu'a Ha Mashiakh , Isa Al Masih , Jesus the Messiah '' Christ '' from the picture and replacing him , his teachings . and his way of life with Saul . Shaool . Paul . Trying to get their genes or genealogy into the pure seed . As the Indo -Arabs did to the true Islamic teaching of The Quraan / Koran and replaced it with '' Tradition '' Hadith '' . Customs '' Sunna '' . a new religion different from Millat Ibrahim '' Rituals of Abraham , What is taught nowdays by Muslims are not the original teachings and this has also happened to the original teaching of Jesus .

Euro-Christians , Euro-Jew are trying to take over it . For they know that they will not be included in the court as it states in < Rev 11;1-2 > In the Book of James ( who was the oldest half-brother of Yashu'a Isa , Jesus and His Disciple
Matt 13;55 , Chapter 2 verse 20 Also in James 2;26 , Rev 15;3 , This goes to show that the Angels of God / Elohyeem recognize the works done by God / Elohyeem , and if man is in the image of God / Elohyeem as it states in Genesis 1;27. Also if you read Romans 3;27-30 , Now in one breath Saul , Shaool , Paul was saying all you need is faith yet in Roman 3;31 he contradicts himself ,

And to reinforce the words of Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus , in Matt 19;16-17 ( KEEP THE COMMANDENTS ) . Yet , with all of these words that were written by men that walked with Yashu'a Isa , Jesus , Saul , Shaool , Paul . is insistent on defying the teaching of Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus , Saul , Shaool , Paul obviously feel that living by faith is merely enough . However .if that is not what Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus taught who is the Son Of God ( Matt 3;1 , Word of God ( John 1;1, Quraan 3;45 ) and was filled with the Spirit of God ( Matt 3;18 , Quraan 4;171 ) Then who is Saul , Shaool , Paul , to go against what he taught and tell people that faith is enough ?

LQQk at what Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus said in Matt 4;4, As stated previously . it was Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus said that he did not come to destroy the law or the prophet but to fulfill it in Matt 5;17 . As You have seen , fulfill means perform the law do it , act upon it . So According to whose teaching , is Saul , Shaool Paul following ? So again , Saul , Shaool , Paul had no intention of ever following or teaching or the law of Elyon El The Most High God of Israel who gave the law to Moshed , Musa , Moses , NOWHERE in the scriptures does Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus say that he came to abolish the law .

So whose teaching in Saul , Shaool . Paul Propagating ? Exactly , Saul , Shaool , Paul was propagating the teaching of the ANTI-CHRIST . Saul , Shaool , Paul deviated people towards lawlessness , through his strange philosophy that the observance of the law promotes Sin . This was simply a means for his innovation reggarding the abolishment of the Law of The Holy Torah . But you must remember the Christ Testament wasn't written until the year 40 A.D. With the Book of Matthew way after Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus had gone . So Yashu'a , Isa . Jesus could only have been living by and practicting the laws in The Holy Torah .
 
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That is debatable of course.

Paul did have his work cut out for him explaining to his followers and the pagan unbelievers what the "resurrection" of the Lord symbolized to Israel and the Jews.

He used a lot of OT jewish symbology concerning the "Day of the Lord" spoken of by the Lord Jesus in the Gospels. Thoughts? :wave:

Mat 13:49 So 3779 shall it be 2071 at 1722 the End4930 of the age 165: the angels 32 shall come forth 1831 , and 2532 sever 873 the wicked 4190 from 1537 among 3319 the just 1342,

http://ourworld.cs.com/preteristabcs/id84.htm

The Lord will descend to do battle against the powers of darkness and to deliver his elect once and for all. The &#8220;cry of command,&#8221; &#8220;the archangel's call,&#8221; and &#8220;the sound of the trumpet of God&#8221; are very likely apocalyptic expressions for the same occurrence, namely the summons of Christ to gather his people (cf. Matt 24:31) and to enact judgment upon the impenitent (cf. 2 Thess 1:8-10). As is common among portrayals of theophanies, these three phrases qualify each other as demonstrations of the divine summons which are seen and heard by faith amidst natural conditions, such as a tremendous storm. Thunder is used to describe both the voice of God (Exod 19:19; Job 37:4-5; 40:9; Ps 29:3; 77:18; Rev 4:5) and the voice of his angels (Rev 6:1; 10:3-4; 19:6 [saints and/or angels]). Thus, the &#8220;cry of command,&#8221; whether it comes from God, Christ, or an angel, is further explained by the sound of &#8220;the archangel's call,&#8221; both of which are described in Scripture by the sound of thunder. Finally, the voice of God (Exod 19:16; 20:18; Zeph 9:14; Rev 4:1), the risen Christ (Rev 1:10) as well as the possible voice of the angels are all described by means of the trumpet, which is associated in the OT with the theophanic coming of God (Exod 19:16; Isa 27:13), particularly in judgment.
So it is clear that Saul , Shaool , Paul teaching were not in agreement with Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus or the original disciples who also questioned him him about what he was teaching , This is nothing we made up . Other Christian scholars who took the time to study the original language that The Holy Bible was written in also see Saul , Shaool , Paul's discrepancies. We worship on Elyon El . The Father Of Us All . The God Of Jesus and we follow The Messiah Yashu'a Isa , Jesus and Makhud , Muhammad , Mohamet and Al Mahdi and want to bring their teachings back to its pristine purity as the true words of The Most High , The Highest .
When did the Apostle Paul ever speak against Jesus or the LORD God His Father?

He spoke of the same coming as Jesus did and the ones the Muslims are waiting on. ;)

Mat 13:49 So 3779 shall it be 2071 at 1722 the End4930 of the age 165: the angels 32 shall come forth 1831 , and 2532 sever 873 the wicked 4190 from 1537 among 3319 the just 1342,


2 thess 1:7 and to [give] you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed[#602]from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence/FACE[#4383] of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes[#2064], in that Day, to be Glorified in His Saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed
 
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When did the Apostle Paul ever speak against Jesus or the LORD God His Father?

He spoke of the same coming as Jesus did and the ones the Muslims are waiting on. ;)

Mat 13:49 So 3779 shall it be 2071 at 1722 the End4930 of the age 165: the angels 32 shall come forth 1831 , and 2532 sever 873 the wicked 4190 from 1537 among 3319 the just 1342,


2 thess 1:7 and to [give] you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed[#602]from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence/FACE[#4383] of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes[#2064], in that Day, to be Glorified in His Saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed




Poor Thing LOLOLOLOLOLOL:wave:
 
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Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus
When did the Apostle Paul ever speak against Jesus or the LORD God His Father?

He spoke of the same coming as Jesus did and the ones the Muslims are waiting on. ;)

Mat 13:49 So 3779 shall it be 2071 at 1722 the End4930 of the age 165: the angels 32 shall come forth 1831 , and 2532 sever 873 the wicked 4190 from 1537 among 3319 the just 1342,


2 thess 1:7 and to [give] you who are troubled rest with us when theLord Jesus is revealed[#602]from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence/FACE[#4383] of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes[#2064], in that Day, to be Glorified in His Saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed
Poor Thing LOLOLOLOLOLOL:wave:
Only if your the "Supper" when He comes. :)

Reve 19:11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. 12 His eyes [were] like a flame of fire.............Then I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the midst of heaven, "Come and gather together for the supper of the great God, 18 "that you may eat
 
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Only if your the "Supper" when He comes. :)

Reve 19:11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. 12 His eyes [were] like a flame of fire.............Then I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the midst of heaven, "Come and gather together for the supper of the great God, 18 "that you may eat




Have A Bless Day
 
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Hi Khaliyl,

As history show us, I would not use "The Encyclopedia Britannica" to quote anything religious... you may not understand what I mean with this at this point but take my word, is not a safe source.


May the LORD bless you with the wisdom of the truth that you seeking and not keep you in the dark, if that is what you truly searching for.
 
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Hi Khaliyl,

As history show us, I would not use "The Encyclopedia Britannica" to quote anything religious... you may not understand what I mean with this at this point but take my word, is not a safe source.


May the LORD bless you with the wisdom of the truth that you seeking and not keep you in the dark, if that is what you truly searching for.




Isn't that like saying don't use the Hebrew Dictionary / Lexical / Concordance Etc , Etc . ??????
By the way only Light blind's , Remember the creator was in darkness before the Eloheem said let the be light .


Have A Bless Day .
 
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