A study and disscusion of Romans

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I have just finished a personal study on Romans, here are my thoughts...lets discuss chapter by chapter if we can and deepen our understanding. This is my interpretation of the entire epistle.


The first of Paul’s letters in Canonical order is also to longest, and perhaps the most influential. Written at the height of his career (54-58 AD) it displays his experience of Christ. He write to the Roman Church to explain his view of things and his plans to carry the Gospel to Spain.


(A reoccuring theme perhaps is Paul's opinion towards humanity's sexual and carnal nature.)

a rough outline

world’s need for salvation 1:18-3:20
God’s saving act with Christ 3:21-4:25
new life 5.1-8:39
the Jewish nation and God’s new plan chap. 9-11
other teachings chap. 12-16


God Bless,
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(note: I am quoting the RSV unless I say other wise)

Chapter 1


1.1-7: A normal salutation, an expression of the Christian faith is also there

1:3 a link is acknowledged between David and Jesus

1:4 "Spirit of holiness" a rewording of Holy Spirit

1.8-15: Thanksgiving

1.9 serving God with spirit, praying without ceasing (hmm..interesting that last part is the ultimate goal of one of the 5 pillars of Islam..perhaps borrowed, or part of the popular spirtual thought of Mohammed's age, that is a whole different disscusion within itself)

1.10 A petition through prayer

1.16 Salvation to all with faith, an extension of God's love to all, Gentiles included...the theme of the entire letter

through verse 16...to be continued..it is too late for me..I will resume tommorow with some more complete thoughts
 
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Hi there!

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1.1-7: A normal salutation, an expression of the Christian faith is also there


This is the longest salutation of any of Paul's writings because he needed to introduce himself to people who did not know him.

The term "servant" can be translated to be a "bondservant" (doulos) which is one who, when their term of service was completed, chose to remain a slave to their owner, and who would be taken to the priest for the declaration and an awl would be used to drill a hole in his ear as a special marking of his choice to be a slave to that master for all of his life. Paul wanted to express that type of devotion to Christ.



1:3 a link is acknowledged between David and Jesus
verse 3 .... made (human) verse 4 .... declared (divine)
verse 3 .... flesh (human) verse 4 .... resurrection (divine)





1.9 serving God with spirit, praying without ceasing (hmm..interesting that last part is the ultimate goal of one of the 5 pillars of Islam..perhaps borrowed, or part of the popular spirtual thought of Mohammed's age, that is a whole different disscusion within itself)

What needs to be noted is that Paul prayed for a church and for people that he had never met and that he might never meet.

"without ceasing, I make mention of you always in my prayers"

When Paul says in verse 10, that He is requesting "by any means" and by the will of God to see them, do you think that he had any understanding that he would be in chains when he said, "by any means"?





through verse 16...to be continued..it is too late for me..I will resume tommorow with some more complete thoughts


Loved your comments...


~serapha~
 
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romans 11:29 says that "God's gifts and call are irrevocable". there are some pastors quoting this verse in response to pastors who have "lost and strayed" from their calling. but, if we will look at the context of this verse, this verse is beng reffered to the israelites. i'm quite surprised that a pastor who graduated from a reputable seminary here in the phillipines, quoted this verse not in the context of the israelites; isn't it a strict rule in hermeneutics not to use a verse out of context? what can you say about this? i will be further enlightened and delighted if pastors and hermeneutics buff would share their opinions on this matter.:)
 
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kensky said:
romans 11:29 says that "God's gifts and call are irrevocable". there are some pastors quoting this verse in response to pastors who have "lost and strayed" from their calling. but, if we will look at the context of this verse, this verse is beng reffered to the israelites. i'm quite surprised that a pastor who graduated from a reputable seminary here in the phillipines, quoted this verse not in the context of the israelites; isn't it a strict rule in hermeneutics not to use a verse out of context? what can you say about this? i will be further enlightened and delighted if pastors and hermeneutics buff would share their opinions on this matter.:)
The Scripture context in which (Rom. 11:29) falls is indeed speaking of national Israel. Paul is teaching that a day is coming when Israel, as a nation, will be brought into the new covenant. Some believe the phrase "all Israel" is speaking of the remnant, or those Jewish believers that have been saved as a part of the Church, but if this were true there never was a "breaking off" of the natural branches. Also, there would be no need to graft them back in since they have always been a part of the tree. No, Paul is refering to national Israel and looking towards the day when God will "take away their sins" (vs 27) and declares it will surely happen because the "gifts" (the covenant promises) and the "calling" (the national election) of God are irrevocable.

In Christ,
Tracey
 
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kensky said:
romans 11:29 says that "God's gifts and call are irrevocable". there are some pastors quoting this verse in response to pastors who have "lost and strayed" from their calling. but, if we will look at the context of this verse, this verse is beng reffered to the israelites. i'm quite surprised that a pastor who graduated from a reputable seminary here in the phillipines, quoted this verse not in the context of the israelites; isn't it a strict rule in hermeneutics not to use a verse out of context? what can you say about this? i will be further enlightened and delighted if pastors and hermeneutics buff would share their opinions on this matter.:)
This refers to all individuals that God gives gifts and callings too.
 
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Paul repeatedly states in his epistles that he was trying to get to the church in Rome. His ministry throught Asia minor and Greece was growing like wild fire and he spent most of his third missionary journey at Epehesis (three years). The church there was most likely started shortly after Pentecost, it was required that Jews attend this no matter where they were and when they returned to Rome they were Christians.

Paul goes on for almost three chapters describing the effects of unrightousness of man and the turning point is 3:21:

But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference" (Romans 3:21,22)

The law is a recurring theme and the Righteousness of God is the heart of the emphasis. There is a pattern in Pauline epistles that start with doctrine and then goes into more practical exortations after. Paul finishes his doctrinal portion in the 11th chapter and begins the practical part in 12. Here is my outline if anyone is interested:

1. The Righteousness of God revealed in the Gospel of Christ and the wrath of God against all unrightousness.

2. God's righteous judgement and the hardness of the hearts of both Jew and Gentile

3. God's righteousness justified and his righteousness imputed by faith through the blood of Christ.

4. Abraham and David as examples of righteouness granted through faith.

5. Christ is the new Adam and the old nature was crucified with him. This is a punishment that we have all richly earned and yet God gave his Son as a substitute.

6. Dead to Sin and alive to God, slaves to sin leading to death or righteousness leading to eternal life. Every Roman road to salvation quote from the end of this chapter. 'The wages of sin is death'.

7. The law did not provide righteousness it only condemned the sinner. Sin is impowered by the law even thought it is holy, righteous and good. However I am not so I, along with Pau, cry out O Wretched Man that I am, who will save me from this body of death! I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord!

8. This is suitable for memorazation and every serious student of the New Testement should know it by heart. There is no condemnation for those who walk in the Spirit and not according to the flesh.

9. This is both a horrible lament for the rejection of Christ by Israel and the hope that Israel will be saved. We are warned not to judge Israel in this and Paul makes one of his most heart rending expositions of the implications of the Gospel being rejected by Israel. It broke his heart that they rejected Christ.

10. He continues with this exposition and quotes extensivly from the Old Testement.

11. Bottom line, Israel'e rejection is neither total nor final. Thats not an interprutation, thats the Gospel.

12. Living sacrifices and walking in the faith.

13. Submitting to authority and loving your neighbor as yourself.

14. The law of liberty and the law of love. This is spoken of thoughout the New Testement, it is refered to as the fruit of the Spirit, the royal law, the mark of a disciple and the clothing of the saints. We could do an encyclopedia on this theme alone.

15. He pours his heart in this one urging them to bear one anothers burdens and expresses just how much he longs to meet them.

16. Most of this is personal in nature but there is one thing here we should heed. Mark those who are divisive and argue against the Gospel and avoid them.

I think that the reason this one is so long is because he had so many things he wanted to share with them but couldn't get to Rome.

Grace and peace,
Mark
 
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