For Those That Think inappropriate contentography Harms Noone

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foolsparade said:
yes, the topic of the thread is a bad argument against inappropriate contentography. {no offense mhatten}.

I'm offended ;)

No for me it is just one more reason I don't apporve of inappropriate contentograhy, do I think it should be banned, no but I don't think it just harmless adult fun either.

My main issue with inappropriate contentography is the portrayal of women as sex objects, I have a real issue with that.
 
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ThePhoenix said:
I can also state, with absolute certainty that every serial killer and rapist has eaten bread. [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]! BAN THE BREAD!!!
I do believe that there were certain serial killers that said they stared objectifying people and dehumanizing them, making them easy to murder, with inappropriate contentography, which is what inappropriate contentography does, it dehumanizes people.
 
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mhatten said:
I'm offended ;)

No for me it is just one more reason I don't apporve of inappropriate contentograhy, do I think it should be banned, no but I don't think it just harmless adult fun either.

My main issue with inappropriate contentography is the portrayal of women as sex objects, I have a real issue with that.

Hi! I totally understand your complaint. Now we should try to figure out how to make women less appealing sexualy. If the men would no longer crave the idea or picture of a woman being sexual, would the world be a better place? Erotica has been around for a long time. We should look at why males crave this, and why some[alot] females crave this also.
 
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foolsparade said:
Hi! I totally understand your complaint. Now we should try to figure out how to make women less appealing sexualy. If the men would no longer crave the idea or picture of a woman being sexual, would the world be a better place? Erotica has been around for a long time. We should look at why males crave this, and why some[alot] females crave this also.

Well in my view erotica and inappropriate contentography are not the same thing. Erotica has some artistic value. inappropriate contentography is pure titilation. It is like the difference between Annais Nin and and Larry Flint.

And there is absolutely nothing erotic about pop-up inappropriate contentography ads that force you to close dwon your browser becuase of the stupid pain in the you know what programming loop. Geez I hate that.
 
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Firscherscherling said:
Hmm, if Jesus was over I would't sit in front of the TV in my underwear and eat leftovers, but that doesn't mean its bad for me. And what movie would be appropriate to screen for him is an excellent question. The Passion comes to mind. I'm sure we would laugh and laugh at how this or that really didn't happen this way or that way.

But seriously, one cannot judge right and wrong based on what is polite to do with company and what is not. I do lots of things that I wouldn't do with company.

And my kids don't notice or care about the magazine covers in the supermarket. I often see where people complain and have the market put something up in front of Cosmo to hide the cleavage. Now, I bet the kid of that parent noticed the breasts on the magazines from then on. Must be important if it makes mom and dad freak out.
read it all. i said the Christian has a higher calling, not you. i defended the use of the courts for inappropriate content protection. it will win. fear not. i am not a man who believes we can legislate our faith.
i have a feeling that Jesus would have a hard time laughing at "The Passion", even with it's inevitable errors. just my gut guess. but the point isn't what we watch with company, silly. Jesus is with us all the time, so when we put that movie in, we do have company. we try to live like him if we are doing this thing with any integrity, and i don't believe it would be the choice of entertainment for him. if he is what he says he is, can you imagine this scene? it's not the undies and the leftovers that Jesus admonishes, it is love that he preaches that is in conflict with inappropriate content. it is respect for humanity and the admonishment against sexual immorality that would make it an absurd offer to make to Christ. you have no such restriction in your philosophy, so the constitutional law is all the law you need, perhaps more. for us, we have a yoke of a higher calling, and it may surprise you, but we don't always like it. many would probably love to throw in a inappropriate content flick or go to an adult bookstore where the movie booths have holes between them to accomodate the patrons, but we have a cross to bear, and many of us Christians fall on our knees and beg for help because we know we are not up to the task of facing temptation alone. Christianity is a discipline. it is not a free pass to nirvana on earth. it is a realization that we passed on the utopia that was given us and have chosen this. and we regret it.
we look around and see destruction that we have made and can not reverse. some of that destruction has been to our own souls. don't be so sure about what your kids are subtly gleaning from those magazine racks. did you know that 50% of our middle school children are having oral sex? is that cool? they see no reason to not participate since everything they see is telling them to dive in at an age that the impressions made are indelible. it makes me mad only because you don't get to be a kid for long, and we are robbing them of close to half of it. this is not an attack on YOUR kids, but surely your concern for humanity extends beyond your four walls. kids have been effected by something in our culture.
as you know but did not address, i believe Jesus was right when he said the love of money is the root of all evil, and inappropriate content is HUGE money, because people want it. in our country they will always have it, at least if i have anything to say about it. constitutional law, man's law, is somewhat irrelevant to us. we honor it, until it conflicts with a higher law that we have willingly committed ourselves to. i will defend the constitution because it is what gives me the freedom to believe what i do without being prosecuted. just like it does for the inappropriate contentographer. but i still think it is killing us. i just fully anticipate the u.s. to implode from hubris and liberty. man's little countries and such have nothing to do with the kingdom of which we believe we are subjects. we believe man will be the earth's downfall. so murder us en masse, ye who pursue mammon as your god. in the end, there is no profit in it, nor any way to stop it, except God. this is what we believe. it is why i go to my knees from time to time. your philosophy bears no such yoke. there are many ways i envy you and my old life. but once you have been touched by him, there is no going back. some never are, and we will miss you.
 
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I have to agree with the reverand on, of course the higher calling but specifically on what children are paying attention too.

I am a very open parent about sexuality and my children have no problem coming to me and talking about things of which I am so glad. But I would not assume that because children are not making an "issue" of things that it does influence there thought processes, especially in the preteen early teenage years when they arer trying find their own identity and their peers values are of much higher import than parental ones for the average teen.

If anything what it does is set the idea in their mind that anything is okoy, anything meaning, since it is published and for sale on the newsstand it must have some inherent value. It desensitizes them.
 
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ThePhoenix said:
I can also state, with absolute certainty that every serial killer and rapist has eaten bread. [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]! BAN THE BREAD!!!
^_^

inappropriate content is despicable, but it is not the cause of sexual violence. People were sexually violent long before inappropriate content existed and people who have never had access to inappropriate content can still be sexually violent. Rape is not some modern phenomenon.
 
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Milla said:
^_^

inappropriate content is despicable, but it is not the cause of sexual violence. People were sexually violent long before inappropriate content existed and people who have never had access to inappropriate content can still be sexually violent. Rape is not some modern phenomenon.
I agree, its not the sole cause, but it is another route which it does take thus it cannot be ruled out.
 
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foolsparade said:
Annais Nin wrote in the "Delta of Venus" a story of school aged boys raping another boy...Thats "erotica?" You might be right but who am I to judge? Which brings us too; who is going to judge for the rest of us?? Do you see how absurd it gets? :)

yes I did not find the book the best, but it was what came to mind. I agree about where do you draw the line and that is why I am not in favor of banning for two reasons, you can legislate morality and it goes agaisnt freedom of speech. However I do think that regulation, i.e. condom use is a must and it should be a must in the movie, not a credit that nobody is reading but the actual act of putting it on.

As far as the degradation of women, well that can't be regulted either, woemen have to come to realize their self-worth outside of theri sexuality. That indeed is a personal issue.
 
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mhatten said:
yes I did not find the book the best, but it was what came to mind. I agree about where do you draw the line and that is why I am not in favor of banning for two reasons, you can legislate morality and it goes agaisnt freedom of speech. However I do think that regulation, i.e. condom use is a must and it should be a must in the movie, not a credit that nobody is reading but the actual act of putting it on.

As far as the degradation of women, well that can't be regulted either, woemen have to come to realize their self-worth outside of theri sexuality. That indeed is a personal issue.

I read that book when I was like 16 or something. Testing for HIV is just common sense, however I think it is impossible to require the use of condoms. Anyone can make a inappropriate contento and sell it. I am not convinced that women demonstrate a lack of self worth purely by acting or "allowing" someone to video tape them having sex. I do recognize that some acts which men seem to enjoy may be interpreted as "degrading". {Degrading} might be a turn on for some people. Humans are very complicated.
 
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Bush says he spends half his time on the "War on Terror". Meanwhile, inappropriate contentography has increased 10 fold under his watch. There was no one single prosecution by Janet Reno, but it's almost election time and Ashcroft has done nothing either. They were preparing to go after the inappropriate content industry, but then 911 changed everything and they shifted to the 'war on terror'.

I'll tell you something I know in my heart, if you win the war on terror, and you lose the war on inappropriate contentography, it will be a meaningless victory for the government. The war on terror is a tiny, insignificant thing compared to what inappropriate contentography will do to this country's soul. It will create a country full of people who DESERVE what happened on 911, and worse.
We need to make sure we are defending what is good, not what is the most vile, wickedness. If we are fighting the war on terror overseas and not fighting the insidious wickedness of inappropriate contentography, we are wrong on national defense.
 
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My main issue with inappropriate contentography is the portrayal of women as sex objects
But you don't care that it shows men as sex objects? ;)

I don't think "inappropriate contentography" shows anyone as objects. It shows people enjoying sex. Sex is an enjoyable activity. I have no problem with that.
 
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Rae said:
But you don't care that it shows men as sex objects? ;)

I don't think "inappropriate contentography" shows anyone as objects. It shows people enjoying sex. Sex is an enjoyable activity. I have no problem with that.
wow, so you're saying there is a plot line? Doubtful. These people are viewed objects because the only reason for inappropriate content is for sexual sitimuation. Thus they are a means to an end.
 
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PresidentsAnalyst said:
Bush says he spends half his time on the "War on Terror". Meanwhile, inappropriate contentography has increased 10 fold under his watch. There was no one single prosecution by Janet Reno, but it's almost election time and Ashcroft has done nothing either. They were preparing to go after the inappropriate content industry, but then 911 changed everything and they shifted to the 'war on terror'.

I'll tell you something I know in my heart, if you win the war on terror, and you lose the war on inappropriate contentography, it will be a meaningless victory for the government. The war on terror is a tiny, insignificant thing compared to what inappropriate contentography will do to this country's soul. It will create a country full of people who DESERVE what happened on 911, and worse.
We need to make sure we are defending what is good, not what is the most vile, wickedness. If we are fighting the war on terror overseas and not fighting the insidious wickedness of inappropriate contentography, we are wrong on national defense.
But Ashcroft did do something. He covered the boobies of those dirty statues in his building.
 
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Kelly said:
Wasn't one of the first tasks of Bush's people to clear off all the pr0n from Clinton staff's PCs?
I recall this was either a misunderstanding or a fabrication. Unless you have evidence to the contrary?
 
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it seems simple to me if you dont like inappropriate content dont watch it.
do something else
ignore it
or make better inappropriate content one that you will like.

I dont like a lot of things
take Christians for example... I just don't goto church.
when you approach me with your religous beliefs I tell you to go away
I dont worry that you will hurt me or my kids
we just sorta laugh it off
It is the same for inappropriate contentography.
I dont care for inappropriate content. so I dont watch it
I'd like to make inappropriate content that I would like but my wife ignores all my suggestions.
sigh...

inappropriate content just isn't important enough to worry about.
I've always wondered at the Christians consternation over the activities of others
 
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