Originally posted by sampo
anybody know what the deal with all the HTML code is in my post above? Help me! I tried to edit it and it did not work.
What's with you and your fancy colors?
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Originally posted by sampo
anybody know what the deal with all the HTML code is in my post above? Help me! I tried to edit it and it did not work.
Originally posted by foolsparade
ever since I was a child,I always had doubt that a God just created everything.I never accepted the stories told to me in sunday school.These stories always sounded "made up" for some reason.as I have gotten older I am more convinced now that we did rise from the mud.I have always had a problem with unanswered questions being tossed to a God.We as humans owe it to ourselves to try to look for answers and not give up or pawn the question over to God.The mere fact of the amazing diversity of life is almost to astounding for even a God to have created,in my opinion.300,000 species of beetles? if there is a god then who or what created him?the whole "God theory" seems so much more far fetched.in my opinion...
Originally posted by Stormy
I do not mind speaking of my Faith, but for now I would still like to hear from the others on their ideas about evolution. I hope we can get this thread back on track.
My opinion? I am an agnostic.
I cannot prove or disprove the theory of evolution, no more than I can prove or disprove the existence of god. I am more inclined to believe the Theory of Evolution, as there is a mountain of verifiable evidence that
supports it. I have found not a shred of evidence in support of creationism. I am a very show-me kind of person, who was raised in a holy-roller Christian household (Pentecostal Holiness). Somehow I managed to grow out of it all. You had said that you did not have enough faith to believe that it all came from nothing. Yet you have enough faith to believe that it was all created with a magical wave of the hand or something.
Actually, there is a very easy way to demonstrate how something could come from nothing. Leave a slice of bread out on the counter for a day or so. It will become covered with living organisms. How did they get there? Walk? Nope, no means of locomotion. They were already in the bread? Again, no. The bread created them? Nyet. God made them? Some may believe so but, no. There is a scientific explanation for what happens on the bread, and it is a simple process, not requiring some miraculous creation.
The fact, as I see it, is that it is more impossible to fathom some supreme entity using a little hocus pocus than it is to imagine that everything just happened. My newbie two cents.
I have enjoyed the discussion.
"Yet you have the faith to believe in it all being created by an unseen being who was careful enough not to leave one shred of evidence as to his existence." (I am paraphrasing myself for clarity there.) I understand that you are of the mindset that evolution is improvement on gods creation.
When I was a child, I thought the way my parents taught me to think, and the way my pastor taught me to think.
I thought that if I questioned the word of god that I was doomed to burn in hell for all eternity.
To me, creationism is nothing more than a lame attempt to reconcile biblical accounts with the overwhelming evidence presented by the scientific community.
Originally posted by s0uljah
I have no problem with the idea of evolution and natural selection, except that it couldn't have happened so perfectly on its own. Things in this Universe will go from states of order to disorder if left alone, but in this case, life went from disorder to order. By itself? I don't buy it. Not to mention the problem of incredibly complex biological structures that take a leap of the imagination to think that they could evolve from star dust...
Originally posted by seebs
My ideas: I think evolution is probably the best of the available explanations for life as we know it and observe it. It doesn't address motivation, or anything else, and it doesn't really need to; the point is that, so far as we know, the universe is such that life like us might well evolve somewhere. Maybe other kinds evolve elsewhere; we don't know yet.
Originally posted by ThienAn
Okay, so, what did we evolved from?
Originally posted by seebs
How far back do you want to go? Most immediately? Probably something similar to homo erectus, or an earlier homo sapiens, depending on how finnicky you are. A study of the hominid tree gets us back a ways.
You want to go back further? Eventually to early multicellular life, and to single-celled organisms before that. Depending on how life formed, I wouldn't be surprised if, in the end, we go back to particles of chemical compounds floating in the primordial sea... That would be the dust of the earth, no?
It's a wonderful allegory.
Originally posted by ThienAn
You believe this even though you have faith in God?