There was a program on TV that talks about how 97% of the universe is missing. They say that science can not find it. How ever they can measure it's effect so they decided that 97% of the universe is made up of dark energy and dark matter that they can not find in anyway other then to study it's effect on the 3% of the universe that we do know about.
97% of the universe is gone?
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There was this guy one this place on that time that said this and that. Why not list some sources>?
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Isn't 95 % quite a bit of universe for science to lose? Do you think that they will ever find it again?
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I thought the point was they have not been about to detect ANY of its properties. They have been able to measure it's effect with some degree of accuracy. But they are unable to directly observe it in any way.
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cerad
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Always wondered how long it would take for a creationist to point this out. Of course the notion that science has actually lost most of the universe is just classic JohnR7 silliness.
But that fact that galaxies should not be stable based on what we currently know about the universe does call into question the foundations of our current cosmology theories. If our universe requires invisible matter to exist then why not an invisible sky daddy?
Now I wonder who will be the first to post a few bible quotes describing dark matter.
But that fact that galaxies should not be stable based on what we currently know about the universe does call into question the foundations of our current cosmology theories. If our universe requires invisible matter to exist then why not an invisible sky daddy?
Now I wonder who will be the first to post a few bible quotes describing dark matter.
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Chalnoth
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This just shows how little you understand about science. Nobody has ever directly observed an electron. Nobody has directly observed a proton. Or a neutrino. Or any other number of subatomic particles. All that we have for these things is indirect evidence. All that we can ever measure are the effects of things.
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Chalnoth
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Well, I personally don't like this explanation of dark matter. Galaxies would just be very different if dark matter didn't exist. Similar structures would still exist, I'm pretty certain, they'd just have different properties.
Anyway, observing the velocity of stars was the first detection of dark matter, but today there is far, far more. Much stronger evidence comes from gravitational lensing, CMB measurements, baryon acoustic oscillation measurements, and supernova observations.
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Do you want me to put you on ignore? Because I am getting tired of people on here being so mean all the time.
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My car keys are missing. Isn't that a lot of mass for science to lose?
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Yeah, the point is if Science only knows 3% of that there is to know in the known universe, how can they say that their theorys have any accuracy.
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How do you go from "A full 97 percent of the mass needed to hold galaxies together is missing" (or unaccounted for) to "Science only knows 3% of that there is to know in the known universe"???????
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Well, science could have CLAIMED to know everything and not told you about the other 97%. We're still working on that part. There are some good ideas, and some stupid ones, and we'll keep you updated.
For recent dark matter discoveries (i.e., why we know it's there), check out this paper review http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/21/dark-matter-exists/ .
For recent dark matter discoveries (i.e., why we know it's there), check out this paper review http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/08/21/dark-matter-exists/ .
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It is like the constant drip of water. There are people on here that are like a bunch of little kids most of the time. They have very little maturity. The result is they chase people away from them. Now if that is what they want to do, that is fine, they have obtained their objective. I am just wondering if that is their objective to end discussion and shut down the board?
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Yeah, I am still trying to find the information on that. But from what I remember they have only found 3% of the stuff that is out there in the ground to find.How do you go from "A full 97 percent of the mass needed to hold galaxies together is missing" (or unaccounted for) to "Science only knows 3% of that there is to know in the known universe"???????
I see that figure now and then that we only know 3 to 5% of what there is to know. That means 95 to 97% is unknown.
The question has been asked: why does science act so arrogant about what they know, when they in effect do not really know all that much about anything.
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