Being a homosexual Christian - I've come to a huge A-HA moment today...

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Still missing the point Romanov.

Paul was talking about heterosexuals who gave up the (for them) natural relations with women and men in order to have same-sex relationships, It is not, indeed Cannot, be talking about Homosexuals simply because they do not HAVE relationships with the opposite sex.

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Still missing the point Romanov.

Paul was talking about heterosexuals who gave up the (for them) natural relations with women and men in order to have same-sex relationships, It is not, indeed Cannot, be talking about Homosexuals simply because they do not HAVE relationships with the opposite sex.

Kiwimac
how about you answer my post ;)

Why wouldn't he mention anything about homosexuals? Cleary homosexuality and homosexual acts have been rapent through history. Why woulnd't God bless homosexual unions like he did for heteroseuxal?
 
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Still missing the point Romanov.

Paul was talking about heterosexuals who gave up the (for them) natural relations with women and men in order to have same-sex relationships, It is not, indeed Cannot, be talking about Homosexuals simply because they do not HAVE relationships with the opposite sex.

Kiwimac

Well, alrighty then. I'm back to my games.
 
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You can love someone while simultaneously making them think that you abhor them, think you're leagues better than they are, and that you generally look down on them. Those people tend to say "What is up with Christianity?!" and run far, far away. Sort of like Sam did.

Although to be honest, I don't think he's turned his back on his faith in God. He's just tired of lumping himself in with the people around here. At least that's what I got out of his post.
 
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You can love someone while simultaneously making them think that you abhor them, think you're leagues better than they are, and that you generally look down on them. Those people tend to say "What is up with Christianity?!" and run far, far away. Sort of like Sam did.

Although to be honest, I don't think he's turned his back on his faith in God. He's just tired of lumping himself in with the people around here. At least that's what I got out of his post.
You're taking out of context what is being said here though sister, I suggest you re-read.

I love myself, but I hate my sin. In the same way I see my brothers and sisters in Christ.
 
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far out hey
ive only read the first page, but man its sad to see you leave. i guess you have to realise that theres alot of people on here to argue or disect every thing or person they read or meet on here.
but i have been interested to read about how you went on here. i allways wonder how i would go if i was homosexual, i think i would decide to be non practicing, but dont know if i would tell any one that i was gay, or how i would deal with every thing that isnt sexual, could i have a best friend that may be in love with me as long as we didnt have a sexual nature to it? alot to wonder about hey. but i hope you continue in your walk with christ no matter what, i dont know what being homosexual means to a christian relationship, as there are so many passages to look at, but im glad that im streight as i can see what a challenge it brings to life.
 
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mabey some people are tired but i say its earthly minds getting in the way of there hearts. god knows that, the only bad thing ive said about anyone is nothin, just the fact that i dont like sin and i think that enabling people to pout that god isnt listning,but in the same breath they bash those he gives words to. all im sayin is u cant tell me ur right and were wrong, for what we belive- ill be praying for all as well as myself on this subject
 
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haha ok if u dont like what people have to say then u dont have to be here, it s all ur freewill sweetie
Yes... I've just noticed when I was reading this thread that at least two people here, I don't remember who, tried to excuse themselves by saying that "truth hurts" when they were posting something hurtful. It's not even about being anti-homosexual. I've seen people who are against homosexuality, but express their views in a kind, loving way. So it's possible to be against homosexuality and say it without the "I-am-speaking-God's-word-so-I-don't-care-if-I-hurt-someone" attitude.
 
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The Romans 1 thread has nothing to do with homosexuals. It has to do with heterosexuals engaging in homosexual acts. There is quite a difference but feel free to go further than Romans 1 and tell me what Paul says to everyone in Romans 2:1

Bisexual practice was common in Rome. You are not aware of this? Soldiers had songs about Julius Caesar's earlier days that spoke of such practices.

Pagan temples in Corinth and Ephesis had sexual forms of worship. It could be with a male prostitute,,, female,,, child.... and even animals were employed in the back of the temple for such purposes. It was all about worship.

Sexual amorality was the norm in much of Rome. That is one reason the Jews looked down upon Gentiles. And, until the transforming power was entered into the culture, Jews were forbidden to associate with Gentiles with God's justification. But, God put an end to that. For the Holy Spirit was now transforming souls everywhere as the Gospel spread.

Romans 1 speaks of the origin of homosexuality in mankind. It all began with a spiritual issue. Men were created heterosexual by God. Later on down the road the first homosexuals began with a Romans 1 experience. These were the inflammed uncontrollable types. These sought out and evangelized others actively. Later on, after this was introduced to mankind, it took on other forms. The origin was with the Romans 1, types.

Many in Rome experienced all kinds of sexual experience as an accepted part of their culture. They more or less viewed it as trying different types of food. They saw it on the same level. Sex was seen as eating and drinking to them. They did not give it much thought.

1 Corinthians 6:13 niv

"Food for the stomach and the stomach for food"—but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.

They did not have God's Law to guide them like the Jews did. They were essentially, culturally, sexually amoral. They saw the same comparison between casual sex, as one would see no wrong in eating a hamburger.

Roman soldiers of rank had a common practice of having young boys along in the field to care for, and to bear their armor. These boys also were to service the soldier's sexual needs. One scene in the famous movie Ben Hur was originally edited out when Roman sexuality was included. Those who studied ancient Roman culture understand what I am talking about.

There was no such thing as homosexuality as we know it today. The Romans were too promiscuious at that time in history to have such a thing come about. Homosexuality as we know it today (civil unions, etc), became that way because it had to evolve as the world was being transformed by the Church.

Monogamy as we know it today was not as well accepted back then by heterosexuals. Roman men married and it was expected for them to have sex outside of marriage. After all, their pagan worship involved sex with temple prostitutes. Love as we now know it was a revolutionary idea to them. For some, it was hard to except.

And? If homosexual marriage was to become blessed by God? The Bible would contain passages on how such a marriage should be conducted. For two reasons. The Jews who had the law, knew homosexual expression was forbidden by God with the penalty of death. So? If God were to have a turn around? It would have to begin with instructing the Jews who received God's Word on its newly formed acceptance.

It would also require several pages of Scripture for special guidance in how to conduct oneself in such a marriage. After all? The Bible had to instruct the much more stable heterosexuals in marriage. How much more the homosexual marriage would be in need of special instruction in God's Word? That is... If there were a change in Gods thinking in regards to such sexual expression.

You find any instructions?


Grace and truth, GeneZ
 
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Romans 14: 12 , 13 (NKJV)
So then, each of us shall give account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or cause to fall in our brother's way.

There is too much conflict in here. How is it bringing anyone closer to God to bash them over the head repeatedly with one's own interpretation of scriptures?
 
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