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Once again, I am going to put all of the threads about this topic under this new thread.
Outstanding issues:
From Who is God's God?
Archieve: "If God is the God of himself, then I am my Mother."
Balron's response: "That's different. God has always existed. He is the source of all things. Therefore, God is the God of Himself. The Son (the Word, or logos) existed in the beginning with God, and He was God. He was not a created being like you or your mother."
From God has a Father, Angels and A Throne
Louisbooth:
"There is two Gods in heaven, according to the Trinity believers."
Not really, there are the father, the son and the Holy Spirit..all distinct but ALL ONE GOD.
Archieve:
In the verse I have stated, It's Jesus talking. You say Jesus is God.
So, answer me, who is he referring to as His God, His Father?
From How come there are two God's in Heaven?
Archieve:
Break down what the Father mean then.
ZoneChaos:
The Father as pertaining to God:
He is the Father of the stars, the heavenly luminaries, because he is their creator, upholder, ruler
He is the Father of all rational and intelligent beings, whether angels or men, because he is their creator, preserver, guardian and protector
He is the Father of spiritual beings and of all men
He is the Father of Christians, as those who through Christ have been exalted to a specially close and intimate relationship with God, and who no longer dread him as a stern judge of sinners, but revere him as their reconciled and loving Father
He is the Father of Jesus Christ, as one whom God has begotten, and has united to himself in the closest bond of love and intimacy, made acquainted with his purposes, appointed to explain and carry out among men the plan of salvation, and made to share also in his own divine nature since before time.
Outstanding issues:
From Who is God's God?
Archieve: "If God is the God of himself, then I am my Mother."
Balron's response: "That's different. God has always existed. He is the source of all things. Therefore, God is the God of Himself. The Son (the Word, or logos) existed in the beginning with God, and He was God. He was not a created being like you or your mother."
From God has a Father, Angels and A Throne
Louisbooth:
"There is two Gods in heaven, according to the Trinity believers."
Not really, there are the father, the son and the Holy Spirit..all distinct but ALL ONE GOD.
Archieve:
In the verse I have stated, It's Jesus talking. You say Jesus is God.
So, answer me, who is he referring to as His God, His Father?
From How come there are two God's in Heaven?
Archieve:
Break down what the Father mean then.
ZoneChaos:
The Father as pertaining to God:
He is the Father of the stars, the heavenly luminaries, because he is their creator, upholder, ruler
He is the Father of all rational and intelligent beings, whether angels or men, because he is their creator, preserver, guardian and protector
He is the Father of spiritual beings and of all men
He is the Father of Christians, as those who through Christ have been exalted to a specially close and intimate relationship with God, and who no longer dread him as a stern judge of sinners, but revere him as their reconciled and loving Father
He is the Father of Jesus Christ, as one whom God has begotten, and has united to himself in the closest bond of love and intimacy, made acquainted with his purposes, appointed to explain and carry out among men the plan of salvation, and made to share also in his own divine nature since before time.