Does God know/see the future?

Originally posted by Neo

In the same way people 'choose' to be tortured and killed, for refusing to submit to a 'loving' tyrant.

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If God were a tyrant, then He would force you to choose him against your own will. He would force you to make the descision to do what he says, regardless of what you want.
Life apart from God is not fun. Not because God is a evil tyrant that wants to punish people, but because He in himself is the source of all that is good. If he is rejected, then you are not just rejecting God, you are rejecting all the good that comes from knowing him.
You may never believe this, you may never believe in God, but i feel the need to tell you what Christians believe, so that you are clear about it once and for all. God created you for a wonderful purpose. That purpose will give you joy, hope, love, faith, peace, patience and salvation. By rejecting God, the one who created you, you reject all that he wants to give you. When your heart is hardened completley, then you will be in Hell. It doesn't have flames, it isn't a torture chamber....but it is removal from the source of all that is good...because that is what you chose.
your life will change forever if you accept Christ. I guarantee it, it has changed me completley. All the wonderful things that you want in life...God is the creator of. The beauty, the love, the peace, the fun...all of it...thats God. Please remember that next time you call him an evil tyrant. Perhaps he isn't such an evil being, if he can create such wonderful things?

Godbless.

Originally posted by unworthyone


So is God infinite or is the Trinity infinite?

This is a commonly faught argument especially by fellow Christians. Since when does perfection have anything to do with emotions or the lack there-of?

What scriptural reference are we to go off of that states God does not understand loneliness or never experienced it.

Tell me, how can God know emotion without experience? How can He pass emotion to us without the emotion being understood and held by Him?

I really do not understand how we can say God has never felt or knows loneliness yet still passes this emotion onto us.

And you are right. If God was completely fulfilled He would have never created us.

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The reason that this argument is illogical, is because it implies that God "lacked" something to fufill himself. God is infinite. God is the trinity...the trinity is infinite. By very nature, He is totally complete in himself. He does not "need" anything. Lonliness is a result of sin and not a part of original creation. God can never be anything less than perfect completion. If he ever actually "needed" us, he would not be God.

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Or how could 'Jesus' weep? Matt. 23 is all about Agape Love & the Principle that is behind it. [All of creation] has feelings so to speak.

Even in the verse of Gen. 4:6-7 God is telling the 'mature' Cain, who up to this point had been a faithful follower of truth. ALL that was required of him, even then, was the condition. "IF" thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted?"
Of course he would have been accepted! It was not too late even then! And the 'free choice' was the opposite of 'rightousness' and the conclusion when one had met [DECIDED} Maturity? Is that a 'new' leader took over the person Cain! The leader was DESIRED (emotion!) and thou shalt rule over him.

Man NEVER does his own thing! Eph. 6:12. They just 'think' so! And this IS [emotion!!] ----You know, DESIRE!
Pastor N.B.

The one thing God can't do... *drumroll*

Create something that loves Him of its own free-will. By definition, in order for the will to be free, He has to let it choose its own path...

it seems the question was answered so I'm closing the thread

Josephus' views are in no way a reflection of this site. In fact, the rest of the staff disagree with his particular view on God's nature.

As far as I am concerned, God is omniscient, and knows EVERYTHING, with NO exceptions.