America is Mystery Babylon/Babylon the Great of the End Times

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I,ve posted this on this subject in the past you should spend some time studing Jerimiah 50- 52 in particular This is were these revelations started to begin with
Jer 50v45 Therefore hear ye the counsel of the LORD, that he hath taken against Babylon; and his purposes, that he hath purposed against the land of the Chaldeans: Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out: surely he shall make their habitation desolate with them.
46 At the noise of the taking of Babylon the earth is moved, and the cry is heard among the nations

Jerimiah51v33 For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; The daughter of Babylon is like a threshingfloor, it is time to thresh her: yet a little while, and the time of her harvest shall come.
34 Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out.
35 The violence done to me and to my flesh be upon Babylon, shall the inhabitant of Zion say; and my blood upon the inhabitants of Chaldea, shall Jerusalem say.
36 Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will plead thy cause, and take vengeance for thee; and I will dry up her sea, and make her springs dry.
37 And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.
38 They shall roar together like lions: they shall yell as lions' whelps.
39 In their heat I will make their feasts, and I will make them drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the LORD.
40 I will bring them down like lambs to the slaughter, like rams with he goats.
41 How is Sheshach taken! and how is the praise of the whole earth surprised! how is Babylon become an astonishment among the nations!
42 The sea is come up upon Babylon: she is covered with the multitude of the waves thereof.
43 Her cities are a desolation, a dry land, and a wilderness, a land wherein no man dwelleth, neither doth any son of man pass thereby.
44 And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up: and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.
45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.
46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler.
47 Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her.
48 Then the heaven and the earth, and all that is therein, shall sing for Babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, saith the LORD.
49 As Babylon hath caused the slain of Israel to fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of all the earth
50 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.
51 We are confounded, because we have heard reproach: shame hath covered our faces: for strangers are come into the sanctuaries of the LORD's house.
52 Wherefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will do judgment upon her graven images: and through all her land the wounded shall groan.
53 Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith the LORD.
54 A sound of a cry cometh from Babylon, and great destruction from the land of the Chaldeans:
55 Because the LORD hath spoiled Babylon, and destroyed out of her the great voice; when her waves do roar like great waters, a noise of their voice is uttered:
56 Because the spoiler is come upon her, even upon Babylon, and her mighty men are taken, every one of their bows is broken: for the LORD God of recompences shall surely requite.
57 And I will make drunk her princes, and her wise men, her captains, and her rulers, and her mighty men: and they shall sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the King, whose name is the LORD of hosts.
58 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The broad walls of Babylon shall be utterly broken, and her high gates shall be burned with fire; and the people shall labour in vain, and the folk in the fire, and they shall be weary.
59 The word which Jeremiah the prophet commanded Seraiah the son of Neriah, the son of Maaseiah, when he went with Zedekiah the king of Judah into Babylon in the fourth year of his reign. And this Seraiah was a quiet prince.
60 So Jeremiah wrote in a book all the evil that should come upon Babylon, even all these words that are written against Babylon.
61 And Jeremiah said to Seraiah, When thou comest to Babylon, and shalt see, and shalt read all these words;
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Then shalt thou say, O LORD, thou hast spoken against this place, to cut it off, that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but that it shall be desolate for ever.
63 And it shall be, when thou hast made an end of reading this book, that thou shalt bind a stone to it, and cast it into the midst of Euphrates:

64 And thou shalt say, Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not rise from the evil that I will bring upon her: and they shall be weary. Thus far are the words of Jeremiah.
I have spent 10 years studying those Scriptures.

And you think that one more hour is going to change my mind?

NOT!!
 
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I,ve posted this on this subject in the past you should spend some time studing Jerimiah 50- 52 in particular This is were these revelations started to begin with
Jer 50v45 Therefore hear ye the counsel of the LORD, that he hath taken against Babylon; and his purposes, that he hath purposed against the land of the Chaldeans: Surely the least of the flock shall draw them out: surely he shall make their habitation desolate with them.
46 At the noise of the taking of Babylon the earth is moved, and the cry is heard among the nations

Jerimiah51v33 For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; The daughter of Babylon is like a threshingfloor, it is time to thresh her: yet a little while, and the time of her harvest shall come.
34 Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out.
35 The violence done to me and to my flesh be upon Babylon, shall the inhabitant of Zion say; and my blood upon the inhabitants of Chaldea, shall Jerusalem say.
36 Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will plead thy cause, and take vengeance for thee; and I will dry up her sea, and make her springs dry.
37 And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.
38 They shall roar together like lions: they shall yell as lions' whelps.
39 In their heat I will make their feasts, and I will make them drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the LORD.
40 I will bring them down like lambs to the slaughter, like rams with he goats.
41 How is Sheshach taken! and how is the praise of the whole earth surprised! how is Babylon become an astonishment among the nations!
42 The sea is come up upon Babylon: she is covered with the multitude of the waves thereof.
43 Her cities are a desolation, a dry land, and a wilderness, a land wherein no man dwelleth, neither doth any son of man pass thereby.
44 And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up: and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.
45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.
46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler.
47 Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her.
48 Then the heaven and the earth, and all that is therein, shall sing for Babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, saith the LORD.
49 As Babylon hath caused the slain of Israel to fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of all the earth
50 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.
51 We are confounded, because we have heard reproach: shame hath covered our faces: for strangers are come into the sanctuaries of the LORD's house.
52 Wherefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will do judgment upon her graven images: and through all her land the wounded shall groan.
53 Though Babylon should mount up to heaven, and though she should fortify the height of her strength, yet from me shall spoilers come unto her, saith the LORD.
54 A sound of a cry cometh from Babylon, and great destruction from the land of the Chaldeans:
55 Because the LORD hath spoiled Babylon, and destroyed out of her the great voice; when her waves do roar like great waters, a noise of their voice is uttered:
56 Because the spoiler is come upon her, even upon Babylon, and her mighty men are taken, every one of their bows is broken: for the LORD God of recompences shall surely requite.
57 And I will make drunk her princes, and her wise men, her captains, and her rulers, and her mighty men: and they shall sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the King, whose name is the LORD of hosts.
58 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The broad walls of Babylon shall be utterly broken, and her high gates shall be burned with fire; and the people shall labour in vain, and the folk in the fire, and they shall be weary.
59 The word which Jeremiah the prophet commanded Seraiah the son of Neriah, the son of Maaseiah, when he went with Zedekiah the king of Judah into Babylon in the fourth year of his reign. And this Seraiah was a quiet prince.
60 So Jeremiah wrote in a book all the evil that should come upon Babylon, even all these words that are written against Babylon.
61 And Jeremiah said to Seraiah, When thou comest to Babylon, and shalt see, and shalt read all these words;
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Then shalt thou say, O LORD, thou hast spoken against this place, to cut it off, that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but that it shall be desolate for ever.
63 And it shall be, when thou hast made an end of reading this book, that thou shalt bind a stone to it, and cast it into the midst of Euphrates:

64 And thou shalt say, Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not rise from the evil that I will bring upon her: and they shall be weary. Thus far are the words of Jeremiah.
Besides, Ancient Babylon already was destroyed thousands of years ago. This is NOT the same scriptures pertaining to Babylon BEFORE CHRIST'S RETURN.

Keep searching. You might actually come into the knowledge of the truth.
 
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Warrior4ChristAL said:
ANCIENT BABYLON / IRAQ is already gone!!

I think you do not understand history from the prophetic.

One is PAST the other is FUTURE.
The Roman Empire took over. Ancient Babylon in Iraq was destroyed thousands of years ago. I don't think the Apostle John would be foretelling the past in the book of Revelation, do you?

Iraq today is NOTHING compared to its history. SO, the book of Revelation was speaking about FUTURE events, not speaking of historial facts.

Do you see anything FUTURE that resembles Babylon today?

That's what this discussion is. It is NOT to debate Ancient Babylon / Iraq.

Try again!
 
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Warrior4ChristAL said:
ANCIENT BABYLON / IRAQ is already gone!!

I think you do not understand history from the prophetic.

One is PAST the other is FUTURE.
Much of it is using the same symbolism from a differing perspectives.

Jerimiah51v63 And it shall be, when thou hast made an end of reading this book, that thou shalt bind a stone to it, and cast it into the midst of Euphrates:
64 And thou shalt say, Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not rise from the evil that I will bring upon her: and they shall be weary. Thus far are the words of Jeremiah

Rev 18v21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
 
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inhisdebt said:
Much of it is using the same symbolism from a differing perspectives.

Jerimiah51v63 And it shall be, when thou hast made an end of reading this book, that thou shalt bind a stone to it, and cast it into the midst of Euphrates:
64 And thou shalt say, Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not rise from the evil that I will bring upon her: and they shall be weary. Thus far are the words of Jeremiah

Rev 18v21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
You mean like these guys did?

Matthew 21:43 "Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.

Ezkeiel 39:12 "For seven months the house of Israel will be burying them, in order to cleanse the land. 13 "Indeed all the people of the land will be burying, and they will gain renown for it on the day that I am glorified," says the Lord GOD.

http://www.donaldsensing.com/docs/JesustheJew.txt
Since Jesus supported all these things opposed by the Sadducees, Jesus did not fit within the Sadducean movement. Being closely associated with the Temple, the Sadducees disappeared from history when the Temple was destroyed in 70.
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Warrior4ChristAL said:
The Roman Empire took over. Ancient Babylon in Iraq was destroyed thousands of years ago. I don't think the Apostle John would be foretelling the past in the book of Revelation, do you?

Iraq today is NOTHING compared to its history. SO, the book of Revelation was speaking about FUTURE events, not speaking of historial facts.

Do you see anything FUTURE that resembles Babylon today?

That's what this discussion is. It is NOT to debate Ancient Babylon / Iraq.

Try again!

Bless you sister,
The United States Is Mystery Babylon The Great the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth.

AMERICA and its LAW is the daughter of ROME, the daughter of The Jewish led GREEK, Hellinistic empire, from Alexandria in Egypt and its law.

Persian Jews from Babylon rebuilt Jerusalem. First recorded case of tax exempts status

Jerusalem under Solomon was the SEAT OF INTERNATIONAL TRADE LAWS.
Egypt was The founders of a theocracy enforced by killer priests as tax collectors.

The BLOOD Brotherhood of Egyptian Rite killers has recruted and instructed the ZELOT scribes and lawyers continualy from Jerusalem since before Abraham.

Every secret society is connected to the criminal underworld and its serpent or lizard cult of blackmailers and assassans.

The Masonic Eastern Star is the cult of the GREAT MOTHER, EASTER, ESTHER, ASTARTOTH, Babyonian goddess of fertility and WAR.
Called by the FRENCH, "LADY LIBERTY".

All these things are coded into our English language.
With love in Christ
brother daniel
 
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inhisdebt said:
Much of it is using the same symbolism from a differing perspectives.

Jerimiah51v63 And it shall be, when thou hast made an end of reading this book, that thou shalt bind a stone to it, and cast it into the midst of Euphrates:
64 And thou shalt say, Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not rise from the evil that I will bring upon her: and they shall be weary. Thus far are the words of Jeremiah

Rev 18v21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
You mean like these guys did?

Matthew 21:43 "Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.

Ezkeiel 39:12 "For seven months the house of Israel will be burying them, in order to cleanse the land. 13 "Indeed all the people of the land will be burying, and they will gain renown for it on the day that I am glorified," says the Lord GOD.

http://www.donaldsensing.com/docs/JesustheJew.txt
Since Jesus supported all these things opposed by the Sadducees, Jesus did not fit within the Sadducean movement. Being closely associated with the Temple, the Sadducees disappeared from history when the Temple was destroyed in 70.
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The United States Is Mystery Babylon The Great the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth.

AMERICA and its LAW is the daughter of ROME, the daughter of The Jewish led GREEK, Hellinistic empire, from Alexandria in Egypt and its law.
That is why Paul was desperately trying to get his follower to "come out of" before the great Jewish Law Babylon fell in the first century.
Paul is my "Bro". ;)

http://ourworld.cs.com/preteristabcs/id84.htm

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]The Thessalonian church was comprised primarily of Gentile converts from the pagan cults of Dionysus, Zeus, Asclepius, Aphrodite, Demeter, and perhaps most important, the cult of Cabirus. They were converts from a social and religious milieu in which gods and demons were understood to have control over virtually all aspects of life. “Threatened by powers and demons, by illnesses and unforeseen strokes of fate, one lived in suspense and fear and felt subject to overpowering forces against which one could not assert oneself.” 2 The Thessalonian converts may have thought that the gods and demons who inhabited the air were responsible for the persecution and death suffered in their church. In fear occasioned by the apparent victories of the forces of darkness over them, the Thessalonian church was concerned whether those who had died would be with the Lord at all, not simply at his parousia. Their own fate would thus also have been in doubt. It was with these specific concerns in mind that Paul wrote the 4,13-5,10 pericope, affirming that those whom God has elected are assuredly the Lord's, attested by their “meeting in the air” at the parousia to behold the victory of the conquering Christ over the forces of darkness.[/FONT]
 
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brother daniel said:
Bless you sister,
The United States Is Mystery Babylon The Great the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth.

AMERICA and its LAW is the daughter of ROME, the daughter of The Jewish led GREEK, Hellinistic empire, from Alexandria in Egypt and its law.

Persian Jews from Babylon rebuilt Jerusalem. First recorded case of tax exempts status

Jerusalem under Solomon was the SEAT OF INTERNATIONAL TRADE LAWS.
Egypt was The founders of a theocracy enforced by killer priests as tax collectors.

The BLOOD Brotherhood of Egyptian Rite killers has recruted and instructed the ZELOT scribes and lawyers continualy from Jerusalem since before Abraham.

Every secret society is connected to the criminal underworld and its serpent or lizard cult of blackmailers and assassans.

The Masonic Eastern Star is the cult of the GREAT MOTHER, EASTER, ESTHER, ASTARTOTH, Babyonian goddess of fertility and WAR.
Called by the FRENCH, "LADY LIBERTY".

All these things are coded into our English language.
With love in Christ
brother daniel
All fine and dandy yet no one has been able to account for all the scripture pointing to the land of the chaldeans as babylon. Untill that is accounted for (amongst other things), you have holes in your theories.
 
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inhisdebt said:
All fine and dandy yet no one has been able to account for all the scripture pointing to the land of the chaldeans as babylon. Untill that is accounted for (amongst other things), you have holes in your theories.
:) Don't you know that Rome and the Catholic church are the "chaldeans"?

(Young) Habakkuk 1:6 For, lo, I am raising up the Chaldeans, The bitter and hasty nation, That is going to the broad places of earth, To occupy tabernacles not its own.

Mark 11:17 Then He taught, saying to them, "Is it not written, 'My House shall be called a house of prayer for all nations'? But you have made it a 'den of thieves.' "

zech 14:21 Yes, every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holiness to the LORD of hosts. Everyone who sacrifices shall come and take them and cook in them. In that day there shall no longer be a Canaanite/merchant in the House of the LORD of hosts.
 
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Phoenix said:
Still not much here as far any proof whatsoever of anything.

Revelation is full of counterfeits - The beast, false prophet, and the dragon are counterfeits of ???

Mystery, Babylon the great, the mother of all harlots and adbominations of the earth are counterfeits of ???

Yes, it is so easy to see for those who open thier eyes and put down thier commontaries and JVI tapes.

Babylon is Jerusalem people !!!!! wake up.

Mark
 
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inhisdebt said:
All fine and dandy yet no one has been able to account for all the scripture pointing to the land of the chaldeans as babylon. Untill that is accounted for (amongst other things), you have holes in your theories.

. Before the 7th century, their was no such thing as a chaldean, but later on as more and more missionaries from the vatican succeded in the region, half of mesopotamia's population became Catholic. So by the 16th century (1543 I think,) the pope decided to call those catholics of Mesopotamia as Chaldean.

Ur is considered by many to be the city of Ur Kasdim mentioned in the Book of Genesis as the birthplace of the patriarch Abram (Abraham). This identification is, however, disputed.
Ur is mentioned four times in the Tanakh or Old Testament, with the distinction "of the Kasdim/Kasdin" — traditionally rendered in English as "Ur of the Chaldees", referring to the Chaldeans, who were already settled there by around 900 BC. In Genesis, the name is found in 11:28, 11:31 and 15:7. In Nehemiah 9:7, a single passage mentioning Ur is a paraphrase of Genesis.
The Book of Jubilees states that Ur was founded in 1687 Anno Mundi (year of the world) by 'Ur son of Kesed, presumably the offspring of Arphaxad, adding that in this same year, wars began on Earth.
"And 'Ur, the son of Kesed, built the city of 'Ara of the Chaldees, and called its name after his own name and the name of his father. (ie, Ur Kesdim)" (Jubilees
11:3)

"The Book of Genesis narrative of Abraham places him at Ur, which was at a later time the country of the kasidim— the "Chaldeans", or just possibly the "Kassites". The toponymy is that of the Neo-Babylonian period of the Torah editors, not that of the supposed time of the original patriarch of the Hebrew people himself." --Wetman 09:09, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
The land of the Chaldeans is the land they conquer, .

I would suggest that Hurran, Kassitte ,Chaldean War Lords of the Zagros Mountians, Ararat, and the Tauris Mountains controled Syria and Harran in the time of Abraham.
This would today be called kurdistan located in parts of Syria, Turkey, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbijan, Iraq-Persia and Iran-Babylon.


At a later period these same gangester families of Media with the aid of the Scythian horse archers conquered Greco-Persian Babylon and its Jewish administrators..Their Parthian Empire stoped the westerm movement of the Romans and collect tribute for trade between Rome,Greece, Asia Minor, Arabia., Armenia, Georgia, Azerbijan, China and India.


These are the equestrian rural elite merchants that patrol the Danube from the Black Sea to the Amber rich Baltic,
.
In the Hartz mountains of Germany they became known as Saxons a branch of the Suavii Economic cult league.

These are the Chaldien, Magi sorcerer kings and their scribes, who forge the edge of the plow and sword and grind the point of the etching instrument. These are todays godless lawyers who write the law and devise trapdoors to escape.

The United States of America is the land of the Chaldean scribes and all their Mystery schools. with its Heirogamos
.http://www.hg.org/

With love in Christ
brother daniel









 
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I must admit, I have often wondered if it was America, but not everything fits there?? We do not have, nor are we responsible for
'the blood of the prophets".

Yet we do give, and help always!

I do think America is going down both moraly and spiritually. We have so far remained a steadfast friend to Israel, if that would change, then I would say all bets are off, as far as our heavenly father is concerned.

The way political correctness is directing the way people behave, and react to policies, I would not be surprised if that changed in the future, I do not like it, but I would not be surprised. I just do not know, but I am concerned about America, and it's decline. I also hope and pray we remain a steadfast friend to Israel.
 
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mhoward55 said:
Hello,

I must admit, I have often wondered if it was America, but not everything fits there?? We do not have, nor are we responsible for
'the blood of the prophets".

Yet we do give, and help always!

I do think America is going down both moraly and spiritually. We have so far remained a steadfast friend to Israel, if that would change, then I would say all bets are off, as far as our heavenly father is concerned.

The way political correctness is directing the way people behave, and react to policies, I would not be surprised if that changed in the future, I do not like it, but I would not be surprised. I just do not know, but I am concerned about America, and it's decline. I also hope and pray we remain a steadfast friend to Israel.

It's easy to remain friends with yourself. ;)
 
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brother daniel said:
. Before the 7th century, their was no such thing as a chaldean, but later on as more and more missionaries from the vatican succeded in the region, half of mesopotamia's population became Catholic. So by the 16th century (1543 I think,) the pope decided to call those catholics of Mesopotamia as Chaldean.

Ur is considered by many to be the city of Ur Kasdim mentioned in the Book of Genesis as the birthplace of the patriarch Abram (Abraham). This identification is, however, disputed.
Ur is mentioned four times in the Tanakh or Old Testament, with the distinction "of the Kasdim/Kasdin" — traditionally rendered in English as "Ur of the Chaldees", referring to the Chaldeans, who were already settled there by around 900 BC. In Genesis, the name is found in 11:28, 11:31 and 15:7. In Nehemiah 9:7, a single passage mentioning Ur is a paraphrase of Genesis.
The Book of Jubilees states that Ur was founded in 1687 Anno Mundi (year of the world) by 'Ur son of Kesed, presumably the offspring of Arphaxad, adding that in this same year, wars began on Earth.
"And 'Ur, the son of Kesed, built the city of 'Ara of the Chaldees, and called its name after his own name and the name of his father. (ie, Ur Kesdim)" (Jubilees
11:3)

"The Book of Genesis narrative of Abraham places him at Ur, which was at a later time the country of the kasidim— the "Chaldeans", or just possibly the "Kassites". The toponymy is that of the Neo-Babylonian period of the Torah editors, not that of the supposed time of the original patriarch of the Hebrew people himself." --Wetman 09:09, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
The land of the Chaldeans is the land they conquer, .

I would suggest that Hurran, Kassitte ,Chaldean War Lords of the Zagros Mountians, Ararat, and the Tauris Mountains controled Syria and Harran in the time of Abraham.
This would today be called kurdistan located in parts of Syria, Turkey, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbijan, Iraq-Persia and Iran-Babylon.


At a later period these same gangester families of Media with the aid of the Scythian horse archers conquered Greco-Persian Babylon and its Jewish administrators.Their Parthian Empire stoped the westerm movement of the Romans and collect tribute for trade between Rome,Greece, Asia Minor, Arabia., Armenia, Georgia, Azerbijan, China and India.


These are the equestrian rural elite merchants that patrol the Danube from the Black Sea to the Amber rich Baltic,
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In the Hartz mountains of Germany they became known as Saxons a branch of the Suavii Economic cult league.

These are the Chaldien, Magi sorcerer kings and their scribes, who forge the edge of the plow and sword and grind the point of the etching instrument. These are todays godless lawyers who write the law and devise trapdoors to escape.

The United States of America is the land of the Chaldean scribes and all their Mystery schools. with its Heirogamos
.http://www.hg.org/

With love in Christ
brother daniel

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Beloved, Perhaps you can demonstrate from scripture and history why the United States of America is not MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT,MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ALL ABOMINATIONS?

What other city in the world has more international commerce and tourists than NEW YORK CITY, the BIG APPLE.

What State other than New York has more Jews than the state of Israel?

Where is more ethnos, Greek for the English word Gentiles, Than in New York?

When Jesus returns will he set his feet down on the mount of Olives?

With love in Christ
brother daniel
 
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What other city in the world has more international commerce and tourists than NEW YORK CITY, the BIG APPLE.

What State other than New York has more Jews than the state of Israel?

Where is more ethnos, Greek for the English word Gentiles, Than in New York?

When Jesus returns will he set his feet down on the mount of Olives?
They will be safer in NY than in Israel/Judea. The Jews that are in Israel may even flee all the way to NY to escape the Wraths on Israel, don't know. :wave:

Zech 14:5 Then you shall flee [through] My mountain valley, For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal. Yes, you shall flee As you fled from the earthquake In the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Thus the LORD my God will come, [And] all the saints with You.
 
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LittleLambofJesus said:
They will be safer in NY than in Israel/Judea. The Jews that are in Israel may even flee all the way to NY to escape the Wraths on Israel, don't know. :wave:

Zech 14:5 Then you shall flee [through] My mountain valley, For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal. Yes, you shall flee As you fled from the earthquake In the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Thus the LORD my God will come, [And] all the saints with You.
Don't be so sure. If NORAD had stand-down orders on 9/11, what makes you think that we are "all protected" if N. Korea, China or other countries start sending bombs are way.

I wouldn't be so arrogant to say that we are "safer" in America. We might not see to much action on American soil but that will soon change.
 
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LittleLambofJesus said:
They will be safer in NY than in Israel/Judea. The Jews that are in Israel may even flee all the way to NY to escape the Wraths on Israel, don't know. :wave:

Zech 14:5 Then you shall flee [through] My mountain valley, For the mountain valley shall reach to Azal. Yes, you shall flee As you fled from the earthquake In the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Thus the LORD my God will come, [And] all the saints with You.

Do you feel safe where you live?.

1 Thess. 5:3
For when they say, peace and safty then sudden distruction cometh upon them as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. .
With love in Christ
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