my husband hit me.

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Katomi said:
Anyone suggesting an ultimatum is severely mistaken with their advice, imo. An ultimatumonly hurts a relationship even further, it does NOT help. You cannot force anyone to go to counselling, you cannot force anyone to do anything. The only person you can make do anything is *yourself*.

Whether your husband wants to go to counselling or not, *you* (the OP) make sure that you get counselling. That may seem unfair, but truly its not, because you as well need support from a trained professional in a situation like this. And since you are the only one you have any control over, you must carry out the actions to keep yourself healthy even if your husband will not do the same thing.

Ultimatums ("do this or we get divorced", "do this to remain married to me") are not the answer, and it shocks me to see such advice here. Ultimatums, regardless of what they concern, are demeaning, insulting, and disrespectful.. to use one is to wage war on your own marriage.

And ontop of it, ultimatums don't even work. People cannot change because they are forced. They must change becauswe they want to change, because they have made the conscious decision to change. If they do not, if they instead make the choice to please someone else, the original behavior WILL return. So in truth, an ultimatum puts everyone in even more danger.. one party will supress themselves for the other, and sometime in the future, that supression will break down.. and the truth will come raging out, possibly in the form of anger and violence beyond anything previously experienced.

Ultimatums are harmful. Don't use them. Discussion of what it will take to heal your marriage is warranted however.. but it must be a *discussion* and not an ultimatum. They are not the same thing. To say "this is what we must do to be healed" and to say "this is what YOU must do to remain married to me" are two very vastly different things.

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Agree...I just can't see an ultimatum working. I still think you should file a police report, or maybe leave for a while, but don't make him go to counceling as a condition to stay married to him. If he asks questions tell him you need time to think, or that you are doing this for your safety as well as the childrens.
 
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If you look at the dictionary definition of ultimatum..

A statement, especially in diplomatic negotiations, that expresses or implies the threat of serious penalties if the terms are not accepted

... what is wrong with that? Even better, substitute consequences with penalties. We spend there whole childhood teaching our children that their actions have consequences, good and bad. Why should that end as they become adults? I think it is fair to go in that direction in this situation.
 
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I think she's talking more about terms and conditions.

If you hit me again, I'll call the police. (protective steps)

If you hit me in front of the kids, I am suing for custody
(protective steps)

If you touch the kids, you need to move out until you can safely relate to them.

If you don't help me move, I am not going to listen to your rants about how messy the house is.


Then he knows what to expect, and she is able to have a say in the relationship. And she makes it clear that she will not cower under his abuse.
 
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JMO, but I don't think now is the time to be worrying about whether you can make your marriage work in the long run. Maybe you can, maybe you can't. It would take a lot of work and changing on his part, forgiveness on yours-- and only time will tell wether this becomes a reality for you two.

Your husband sounds verbally AND physically abusive. The fact that he told you that you WILL start OBEYING him suggests to me that your husband is used to being the biggest, loudest, most important person in his life. Maybe he needs a really big guy whom he respects (and it's HORRIBLE that he does not respect you, but that's what were dealing with here) to sit down and explain to him that true men don't hit their wives and to convince him of the importance of counciling and medical help for his bipolar.

He sounds as if he's an unhappy and angry person. I'd be willing to bet a small mint than when he hit you, it didn't have anything to do with you. You say he's not interested in your church. Is he trying to BE God instead of serving God? Is he trying to be the center of his own universe?

Right now you need to get yourself and your two children safe. I wouldn't advice giving up on your marriage right now, but I gotta tell you, if he wants to leave, I say don't let the door hit him on the way out.
 
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A lot of men act tough and capable, but I suspect that many of them are more worried than the women are. They are emotionally taking on the responsibility for several people (whether financially or not, they still feel that obligation). The payments of a new house are worrisome...not sure if the decision to move will work...seeing the marriage weaken... he could have snapped into manipulation out of sheer terror.

That doesn't make it right, and it doesn't mean women feel less weight of responsibility...just adding some insight.
 
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Seems like the typical scenario in most abuse cases.

I know you're still in shock by what happened. As mush as it hasn't dawned on you as yet "It is abuse".It doesn't matter how stressful the situation "is or was". He was way out of order.
I'm of the opinion Once he hit you once...he would feel he could hit you again. It doesn't end.

I would seriously listen and take these advices.File that report.:hug:
 
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This kind of abuse can start years into marriage...
If she stays - he'll do it again and again and again.
Bi-polar or not, it's a crime to assault someone.
That's like saying a person can murder someone
but they can't help it.
If that's his excuse then he justifies it and more will
come but worse the longer she tolerates it.
Get out, Get out, Get out!!!!!
 
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sing4777 said:
This kind of abuse can start years into marriage...
If she stays - he'll do it again and again and again.
Bi-polar or not, it's a crime to assault someone.
That's like saying a person can murder someone
but they can't help it.
If that's his excuse then he justifies it and more will
come but worse the longer she tolerates it.
Get out, Get out, Get out!!!!!
We can only hope the reason she hasn't logged on is because he has repented of his hard heartedness and they have gotten good counsel. I pray that it was God's will and their outcome that they are happy in their new home and renewed by the Spirit in love and respect for one another - if you're out there, won't you let us know that you're okay?? If things are not better, I pray that the Lord give you protection and a spirit of discernment to know when to take measures to keep yourself safe...
 
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Lacey,

Do you mind if I refer your case to my wife? Her username is Linda44. My wife is a counselor, who specializes in women help, treatments, and therapy. I can have her PM you, so you can further discuss this. Do you have nearby family members that you can stay with during the time being? God is with you and your husband.
 
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sing4777 said:
This kind of abuse can start years into marriage...
If she stays - he'll do it again and again and again.
Bi-polar or not, it's a crime to assault someone.
That's like saying a person can murder someone
but they can't help it.
If that's his excuse then he justifies it and more will
come but worse the longer she tolerates it.
Get out, Get out, Get out!!!!!
I have to agree completely.

I hope you stay safe. And He gets the help that he so desperatley needs.
 
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I am so sorry that you have to go through such a hard situation. If your husband does not get counselling then it sound like you should,even if its just for the support.I know that if you get the police involved that it could get really ugly.If you had your husband arrested,would that control him enough to wake him up ?
 
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