Pray I don't run away the next time

pboop · Jul 4, 2006

Hello all. :clap:

It took awhile but I think this is where I should be. Please feel free to visit my 'blog'. I don't know where to start. I am recently seperated, pending divorce (my second marriage). Both marriages ended because of infidelity. The men I meet always says they want a "good, God fearing woman" it seems thats what they want because it eaiser to cheat. I don't bar hop or anything like that, if I'm not a work or church...I'm home. I waited 26 years before my second marriage. Before we married my husband went to church and even prayed with me; four months later is all stopped and everything just got progressively worse until they were nights my husband wasn't even home. I'm angry, hurt and disappointed. I pray I don't become bitter and fearful to love again. Please pray for me. God Bless you all and thank you. :prayer:

MissingHim · Jul 4, 2006

I'm so sorry you are dealing with this for a 2nd time! My prayers are with you!

:prayer:

Autumnleaf · Jul 6, 2006

As a God fearing woman, do you believe God can heal your marriage?

HuntingMan · Jul 7, 2006

Autumnleaf said:
As a God fearing woman, do you believe God can heal your marriage?

As a studied christian, do you believe God will ever force a spouse to do the right thing against their will?

Autumnleaf · Jul 10, 2006

HuntingMan said:
As a studied christian, do you believe God will ever force a spouse to do the right thing against their will?

I never claimed to be a studied Christian. I know God can and does change people's will, whenever it serves his purposes, so they do his bidding. When we pray for people who are wayward this is what we pray for. It is usually called "changing his/her heart".

HuntingMan · Jul 10, 2006

Autumnleaf said:
I never claimed to be a studied Christian.

Are you saying youre not studied but are actually taking it upon yourself to teach others?

If so, this is a very dangerous position you put not only yourself into, but also every person that listens to you.

I know God can and does change people's will, whenever it serves his purposes, so they do his bidding. When we pray for people who are wayward this is what we pray for. It is usually called "changing his/her heart".

Praying doesnt mean God will cause ones spouse to return or obey Him.
I pray for peoples salvation, but Im not going to subject myself to torment from them in the meantime.

A sensible one foresees the evil and hides himself, but the simple pass on and are punished.
(Pro 27:12)

Autumnleaf · Jul 10, 2006

HuntingMan said:
Are you saying youre not studied but are actually taking it upon yourself to teach others?

If so, this is a very dangerous position you put not only yourself into, but also every person that listens to you.

Praying doesnt mean God will cause ones spouse to return or obey Him.
I pray for peoples salvation, but Im not going to subject myself to torment from them in the meantime.

A sensible one foresees the evil and hides himself, but the simple pass on and are punished.
(Pro 27:12)

I'm a layman concerning the Bible. It is from this simple but comprehensive understanding that I live my life and converse with others concerning what is Christian.

It is from this simple understanding of scripture that I shake my head in sorrow at how you apply your quote from Proverbs to how a woman should act in her marriage to her husband.

The bottom line of being a Christian is subjecting our will for God's. A big part of this is trusting God to work in our lives when things aren't going well. If all we choose to quit when the going gets tough what does that show nonChristians about our faith and God's power?

HuntingMan · Jul 10, 2006

Autumnleaf said:
I'm a layman concerning the Bible. It is from this simple but comprehensive understanding that I live my life and converse with others concerning what is Christian.

Well, take this as you will, but from what Ive seen of your posts so far, just been browsing a bit, you seem to be pretty firmly pushing your views onto others in almost a leader/teacher manner for someone who admittedly isnt maybe completely equipped yet to take on that responsibility (not that you arent, just going by what youve offered)

It is from this simple understanding of scripture that I shake my head in sorrow at how you apply your quote from Proverbs to how a woman should act in her marriage to her husband.

As a student of 2 and a half decades, youll understand my not being too concerned about any headshaking coming from your direction

The bible, except for a few passages (such as those laws pertaining to priests alone) is pretty much for all of Gods children.
A husband is not exempt from the rules as a believer, even if you do seem to believe so.

The wife, as a fellow heir in Christ, has certain rights within a marriage under this covenant denied to them by their Jewish husbands under the old.
I suggest that you might learn what these rights are before teaching in this area.

The bottom line of being a Christian is subjecting our will for God's.

Gods will is not that a woman be betrayed, abused and cheated on and if she is that she has the same rights to end the covenant as the man does (1 Cor 7:13 shows condition, not absolutes).

A big part of this is trusting God to work in our lives when things aren't going well. If all we choose to quit when the going gets tough what does that show nonChristians about our faith and God's power?

God doesnt force men to behave. If your ideas were valid, then every tormented Jewish wife who lived under the old covenant would have had little to worry about.

As it is, God lets men do as they will for the most part. This is why divorce was permitted to begin with.
You do understand that, correct?

tizherself · Jul 11, 2006

HuntingMan said:
Well, take this as you will, but from what Ive seen of your posts so far, just been browsing a bit, you seem to be pretty firmly pushing your views onto others in almost a leader/teacher manner for someone who admittedly isnt maybe completely equipped yet to take on that responsibility (not that you arent, just going by what youve offered)

As a student of 2 and a half decades, youll understand my not being too concerned about any headshaking coming from your direction

The bible, except for a few passages (such as those laws pertaining to priests alone) is pretty much for all of Gods children.
A husband is not exempt from the rules as a believer, even if you do seem to believe so.

The wife, as a fellow heir in Christ, has certain rights within a marriage under this covenant denied to them by their Jewish husbands under the old.
I suggest that you might learn what these rights are before teaching in this area.

Gods will is not that a woman be betrayed, abused and cheated on and if she is that she has the same rights to end the covenant as the man does (1 Cor 7:13 shows condition, not absolutes).

God doesnt force men to behave. If your ideas were valid, then every tormented Jewish wife who lived under the old covenant would have had little to worry about.

As it is, God lets men do as they will for the most part. This is why divorce was permitted to begin with.
You do understand that, correct?

I agree that it seems that some people believe that the only acceptable time a woman can leave an abusive, adulterous relationship is in an ambulance. I believe God gives all of His children the right and the common sense to protect themselves from physical abuse, humiliation and STD's. (It's not like she has the right to demand condom use, even though he's the one to break covenant, right?)

Autumnleaf · Jul 13, 2006

HuntingMan said:
As it is, God lets men do as they will for the most part. This is why divorce was permitted to begin with.
You do understand that, correct?

Sure. Jesus was crystal clear about the subject of divorce. Divorce is permitted when a husband chooses to divorce his wife for fornication. You do understand that, correct?

There are many reasons to not do what the Bible says we should. Loving our enemies is a tough pill to swallow. As is living with a difficult or abusive spouse. If we choose to go our own way in these situations society will accept us and pat us on the back, but should we realistically expect God to be as accepting when we do such things?

pboop · Aug 7, 2006

I do believe God can heal a broken marriage. I also feel that a person has to be receptive to being healed. I've recently had dinner with my husband and it was an awful experience. We embraced and it was empty. I now realize my husband desires, for whatever reason, to be this way. I'm not the first women he's cheated on I just believed he'd outgrown that kind of life style...I was wrong. Do I believe God can change him...yes but only if he truly desires to change.

pboop · Aug 7, 2006

Autumnleaf said:
As a God fearing woman, do you believe God can heal your marriage?

yes but one has to be receptive to healing. I recently had dinner with my husband and It was awful. I think he wants his life this way.

novi12 · Aug 8, 2006

Dear huntingman autumn leaf is right one should learn to be humble and forgive theri hubby/wife as its not ur hubby who is bad its the devil who teaches him to do all this. Pray to Lord andLord will shower light on u. If u don't turn to God then how will he hely u as santa waits always to get a grip on us he wants to shater our marriage life and thats what he does all the time. ASK Gd for forgiveness totally and this will drive the devil out from u .. pray for ur hubby and as days pass ur hubby will releasi what mistake he does.. n this way the devil will go away from him. Lord some people does not turst u forgive them lord and shwoer ur light on them. increasin their faith by pouring ur precious Blood Lord I pray through Christ our Lord Amen

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