The missle situation?

I think it's one of those things that could go to extremes either way, or nothing could happen. Remember, we had another Missile Crisis back in the early Sixties (Cuba) and as it turned out, nothing really happened. It's hard to get a handle on what might happen. In a case like this, people are a little slow to make predictions, because they might be entirely wrong.

BigChrisfilm said:

How come no one is talking about this? I think we are on the very verge the end. What do you think about all that has been going on during the last 24 hours?

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Matt. 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

The Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962 had us MUCH MUCH MUCH closer to nuclear war than we ever will be with North Korea. Always remember, a war of that type would be followed by the appearance of the FALSE Christ to bring "peace", not the True.

BigChrisfilm said:

How come no one is talking about this?

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A whole lot of people are talking about it, just not here.

I think we are on the very verge the end.

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'Cause the DPRK shot off some missles? Dang.

What do you think about all that has been going on during the last 24 hours?

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I think Kim Jong-Il is letting his mouth write checks that his butt can't cash.

BigChrisfilm said:

How come no one is talking about this? I think we are on the very verge the end. What do you think about all that has been going on during the last 24 hours?

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North Korea's dictator is evidently one of the demon possessed "kings" east of the Euphrates who start the Battle of Ar Mageddon. Iran's president is another one.

Barry

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North Korea's dictator is evidently one of the demon possessed "kings" east of the Euphrates who start the Battle of Ar Mageddon. Iran's president is another one.

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Sure they are. But in a few years they'll be dead and some new "kings" will have to take their places.

Everyone of us is always on the verge of the end. Like the cold war chances are nothing will happen here either.

I can remember after 9/11 when president Bush went on national television and called Iraq , Iran and North Korea a trio of evil , so i'm not surprised as to what is happening at the moment.

They knew then that Bush was on to them , and it looks like both Iran and N-Korea are now ready to take him on . The message they appear to be sending to Bush is , come and get us , we're ready for ya.

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North Korea's dictator is evidently one of the demon possessed "kings" east of the Euphrates who start the Battle of Ar Mageddon. Iran's president is another one.

Barry

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I respectfully disagree.

The battle of Armageddon happens after the reign of the Beast, False Prophet etc. Where is the mark? Where are people worshipping his image? Where is the control over the whole world? Where is the False Prophet doing miracles? Who are the ten kings? Where was Babylon destroyed?

OU

OttawaUk said:

I respectfully disagree.

The battle of Armageddon happens after the reign of the Beast, False Prophet etc. Where is the mark? Where are people worshipping his image? Where is the control over the whole world? Where is the False Prophet doing miracles? Who are the ten kings? Where was Babylon destroyed?

OU

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I hold the historicist view, that everything preceding the Battle of Ar Mageddon has already taken place. Hitler and his Third Reich was the third six of the 6-6-6 trilogy. The mark of the beast was the swastika. The Pope was the false prophet.

The Euphrates has already dried up (recently in Iraq), so Ar Mageddon is next.

Barry

Can't say I agree with your interpretation at all. Hitler fails in prophecy for many reasons.

1) He was never given power over the whole world.
2) He never made war with the saints and overcame them.
3) The whole world did not worship him, minus those written in the Book of the Lamb.
4) There was no false prophet bringing fire down from heaven and performing miracles under his power.

This 6-6-6 trilogy you speak of is completely un-Biblical.

If Satan brings a false Jesus into the End Times scenario, you're setting yourself up for a deception.

OU

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Hitler and his Third Reich was the third six of the 6-6-6 trilogy.

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There is no 6-6-6 trilogy. Revelation says his number is 600 and 60 and 6. They didn't have place value back then, so the idea that a 6 could represent 600 would have been unthinkable. Today, we can take 6 and 6 and 6 and put them together to make 666. Back then, they couldn't. A trilogy of sixes would have been eighteen. That's why it says six hundred, and sixty and six. The language was incapable of saying 666. It WAS capable of saying 6 and 6 and 6, if there were "a trilogy of sixes".

I hold the historicist view, that everything preceding the Battle of Ar Mageddon has already taken place. Hitler and his Third Reich was the third six of the 6-6-6 trilogy. The mark of the beast was the swastika. The Pope was the false prophet.

The Euphrates has already dried up (recently in Iraq), so Ar Mageddon is next.

Barry

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And that is considered "orthodox" teaching Whoa!!!!

Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

Ezkeiel 39:12 "For seven months the house of Israel will be burying them, in order to cleanse the land. 13 "Indeed all the people of the land will be burying, and they will gain renown for it on the day that I am glorified," says the Lord GOD.

OttawaUk said:

Can't say I agree with your interpretation at all. Hitler fails in prophecy for many reasons.

1) He was never given power over the whole world.

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Hitler's goal, which he almost succeeded at, was to rule the whole world. Jesus said if those days had not been cut short, no flesh would be saved.

2) He never made war with the saints and overcame them.

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50 million people died in WW II, including 1 million Serbian Orthodox Christians that he executed (not to mention 6 million Jews).

3) The whole world did not worship him, minus those written in the Book of the Lamb.

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much of the world worshipped him

4) There was no false prophet bringing fire down from heaven and performing miracles under his power.

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Actually the False Prophet has 2 horns. Hitler's soldiers were Roman Catholics and Lutherans, whose leaders were the two horns.

This 6-6-6 trilogy you speak of is completely un-Biblical.

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"Third Reich" means the third reign of the Roman Empire. The Roman empire of John's day was head # 6 of the beast. WW I Germany (the Second Reich) was the 2nd 6, the Third Reich was the 3rd six.

The Euphrates has already dried up (recently in Iraq), so the Battle of Ar Mageddon is clearly next.

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Hitler's goal, which he almost succeeded at, was to rule the whole world.

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He didn't even get close to ruling the world.

much of the world worshipped him

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False.

Actually the False Prophet has 2 horns. Hitler's soldiers were Roman Catholics and Lutherans, whose leaders were the two horns.

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Ok...so what about those miracles??

The Euphrates has already dried up (recently in Iraq), so the Battle of Ar Mageddon is clearly next.

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Clearly.

Where do people come up with this stuff ???

The Roman empire of John's day was head # 6 of the beast. WW I Germany (the Second Reich) was the 2nd 6, the Third Reich was the 3rd six.

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Tell me how you get that with this ?

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

Phoenix said:

Where do people come up with this stuff ???



Tell me how you get that with this ?

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

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The original Greek says his number is "666" (but in Greek numerals, and not "six hundred, three-score and six").
Hitler's Third Reich of Rome was the third 6.

Now we have the Battle of Ar Mageddon to look forward to.

Barry

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The original Greek says his number is "666" (but in Greek numerals, and not "six hundred, three-score and six").
Hitler's Third Reich of Rome was the third 6.

Now we have the Battle of Ar Mageddon to look forward to.

Barry

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The Original Greek is chi xi stigma NOT hex hex hex.
Hex = 6. It is NOT a series of 3 6's.

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Hitler's goal, which he almost succeeded at, was to rule the whole world.

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In what universe? He lost his air force over Britain, he lost his posterior in Russia, he got unceremoniously hove out of North Africa, he never came close to threatening anyone outside of Europe, so how do you reckon he came close to ruling the whole world? Looks like the only place he held for any significant period of time was France.

much of the world worshipped him

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Shot who?

The Euphrates has already dried up (recently in Iraq), so the Battle of Ar Mageddon is clearly next.

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Hoooookay. Keep us posted, won't you?

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The Euphrates has already dried up (recently in Iraq), so Ar Mageddon is next.

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The Euphrates River is over 1700 miles long. Almost half of that distance runs through Iraq (roughly 850 miles). According to conversations we had in earlier posts on this issue, you said prophecy was fulfilled because 50 miles of the Euprates was damned. Just 50 out of 850 miles. And not "dried up" completely...merely damned.

How in the world can you possibly find a literal fulfilment out of that without stretching the scriptures beyond belief? This is case and point why I am not a Historicist.

In Christ,

Acts6:5