On keeping the sabbath

tall73 said:

In the context of the book of Hebrews, the rest that they are entering is not the weekly Sabbath, but salvation.

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In the context of Hebrews 4 a day is explicitly designated, and then redesignated.

There are only two days designated: the seventh day and Today. As you said they were both indeed in the Old Testament era as well as the New.

Of course the context is salvation. The context of all Scripture being Christ, the context is salvation. There was a great day of rest in the Old Covenant. Under the New Covenant there is an even greater day of rest left remaining to us, a day that we enter into continually, "Today." Sabbath was an observance God's salvation (cf Dt 5:15); so it is in the New Covenant as well.

heymikey80 said:

In the context of Hebrews 4 a day is explicitly designated, and then redesignated.

There are only two days designated: the seventh day and Today. As you said they were both indeed in the Old Testament era as well as the New.

Of course the context is salvation. The context of all Scripture being Christ, the context is salvation. There was a great day of rest in the Old Covenant. Under the New Covenant there is an even greater day of rest left remaining to us, a day that we enter into continually, "Today." Sabbath was an observance God's salvation (cf Dt 5:15); so it is in the New Covenant as well.

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"Today" did not start with Christ but in the time of David according to the text.

Heb 4:7 again he appoints a certain day, "Today," saying through David so long afterward, in the words already quoted, "Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts."


And even after "today" started, in the time of David you see the Sabbath being kept all along.

It was a reminder of the rest God entered into long ago and has been available ever since. His point was simply that if it was still available long after Joshua's time, it is still available now. It is always available "today."

If we were to apply it the way it seems you want to then the Sabbath should have ceased in David's time, but it clearly did not.

Simple obedience to the day God specifies is better than sacrifice on every day..

1Sa 15:22 Samuel said, "Has the LORD as much delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices As in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams.

woobadooba said:

The same people to whom the promise of salvation through Jesus Christ, was given.

Do we belong to that group?

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Really? where is that in the context of your passage?

tall73 said:

The "you" in Isaiah is the nation of Israel. In the commandment it is the nation of Israel and the stranger in their gates, the animals, the slaves, etc.

And in the NT there is evidence to suggest that the church, both Jew and Gentile continued to keep it, and even continued in the synagogue.

Joh 9:22 (His parents said these things because they feared the Jews, for the Jews had already agreed that if anyone should confess Jesus to be Christ, he was to be put out of the synagogue.)

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Quite a responce In its inception the church which Jesus built came out of a Jewish culture, it is really hard to tell how long, but throughout most of the book of Acts Jews predominated over Gentiles in membership. The fact that the apostles refer to Moses and Abraham among others spoken of in the Old(er) Testament indicates that the early church, the ekklasia of Messiah, was Jewish in its "roots". Indeed the gospel was first to the Jews and then to the Greeks.

Much of what is carried along by Christians regarding the Sabbath is tradition and nothing more. The truth of this is to be found in Scripture; Acts 15:



These were the commands of the Apostalic council, if Christians were to keep the Sabbath, it would have been listed here.

But I still contend that those who think they are keeping the Sabbath today are not really doing so. The command regarding the Sabbath is clear and those who were to keep it were clear on who they were.

woobadooba said:

THUMP!

LOL

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One good way to insure that no one reads your post is to make it longer than about 100 words.

Jubi Lee said:

Here is what I beleive to be the truth of the matter. An omniscient God knew the truth about the sabbath would become a confused matter but allowed it to happen anyway for the purpose of testing mankind during the great tribulation in order to see who will put their faith in him under great persecution. When the tribulation begins, the wrath of God will be poured out on this sinful planet. A world coalition will quickly form known as babylon. In an attempt to appease an angry god, laws of worship will be implimented that stand in opposition to the laws of God. The 144,000 will be telling the world that God demands worship on his holy day (the seventh day sabbath) while babylon will make laws demanding worship on other days. In the USA, sunday laws will be made. In Islamic nations, fridays etc. So get prepared because we will all see this come to past shortly. And the teaching of a pretrib rapture will be proven false.

REV[12] This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.
REV[17] Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to make war against the rest of her offspring--those who obey God's commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus.

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Quite a number of interestning points... Let me ask you to whom was the Sabbath given?

Jubi Lee said:

The 144,000 will be telling the world that God demands worship on his holy day (the seventh day sabbath) while babylon will make laws demanding worship on other days. In the USA, sunday laws will be made. In Islamic nations, fridays etc. So get prepared because we will all see this come to past shortly. And the teaching of a pretrib rapture will be proven false.

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Where does Scripture indicate that God demands worship on the Sabbath?

What happens to those who worship God on other days?

Jerrysch said:

Really? where is that in the context of your passage?

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So you don't believe that the Jews were given the promise of salvation first?

Do you disagree with Jesus then?

"You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews." Jn. 4:22

You can't have it both ways. If you are going to argue that since the Sabbath was given to the Jews, it doesn't apply to the Gentiles. Then you are going to have to agree that the promise of salvation isn't for the Gentiles either, since it too was first given to a Hebrew.

If an idea can't stand to reason, then it isn't worth standing on!

woobadooba said:

So you don't believe that the Jews were given the promise of salvation?

Do you disagree with Jesus then?

"You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews." Jn. 4:22

You can't have it both ways. If you are going to argue that since the Sabbath was given to the Jews, it doesn't apply to the Gentiles. Then you are going to have to agree that the promise of salvation isn't for the Gentiles either, since it too was first given to a Hebrew.

If an idea can't stand to reason, then it isn't worth standing on!

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The Context indicates ;

Isaiah 58

1 “Cry aloud, spare not;
Lift up your voice like a trumpet;
Tell My people their transgression,
And the house of Jacob their sins.
2 Yet they seek Me daily,
And delight to know My ways,
As a nation that did righteousness,
And did not forsake the ordinance of their God.
They ask of Me the ordinances of justice;
They take delight in approaching God.


The Prophet was referring to ethnic Israel, that was my point. The blessing of the Sabbath was given to ethnic Isreal it was mandatory that they keep it. Are youu of ethnic Israel?

Jerrysch said:

The Context indicates ;

Isaiah 58

1 “Cry aloud, spare not;
Lift up your voice like a trumpet;
Tell My people their transgression,
And the house of Jacob their sins.
2 Yet they seek Me daily,
And delight to know My ways,
As a nation that did righteousness,
And did not forsake the ordinance of their God.
They ask of Me the ordinances of justice;
They take delight in approaching God.


The Prophet was referring to ethnic Israel, that was my point. The blessing of the Sabbath was given to ethnic Isreal it was mandatory that they keep it. Are youu of ethnic Israel?

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Oh, but you do err, for the Sabbath, according to Jesus, "was made for man" Mk. 2:27, not merely ethnic Israel!

By the way that's "anthropos", meaning ALL humankind! Yes, even you.

Jerrysch said:

One good way to insure that no one reads your post is to make it longer than about 100 words.

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If you don't like long posts, then don't read them. Many people do read them, though.

I keep reading about "Jewish culture" when the house of Judah was only one part of the whole house of Israel. Even the New Testament recognizes "the house of Israel" and "the house of Judah" as the whole house of Israel to whom the New Covenant is for (Heb. 8:6-10). The culture of Israel was and is the same today as back then - to love and obey God as His people; His family. The Church of ecclesia of people who follow after God are those two houses; with the house of Judah finally realizing their Messiah, and the Christians finally realizing they have a heritage as those lost sheep Jesus said He came to find and gather as "Sons of God" when they were once "lo ammi". (Hosea 1:9-11; Rom.9:25,26)
When Jesus came back, He said that He came but for "the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Mat. 15:24), and this was the house that split away from the house of Judah, went after foreign gods, and committed the sin of Jeroboam, the first king of the house of Israel (1Kings 12:32) - to change the sabbaths and the feasts away from what God has ordained. Part of the feasts were shadows of what was to come in our Savior Jesus - the spring feasts, but we still have the fall feasts as a shadow of His return.
As a whole house or Church of people, reunited once and for all under one King (Hosea 1:9-11), the sabbath day will again be obeyed, at least for a thousand years. When we enter eternity, who can count days there, but we will always have Jesus to rest in.
It is ironic how the called house of Israel still klings to the old sin of Jeroboam who was the very first King of that house. Jesus came to call those back in who were once lost and dispersed into the Gentile nations where they would become a nation that was like a lion among the peoples of the earth; but that same greatness would be humbled for its continuance in sin. even those who call themselves by the Saviors name still persist in lawlessness and the false idea of liscence to sin. Jude warned us this would happen in verse 4.
It has taken a long time for me to see that the sabbath day is important for us to keep, and it came around in a sort of funny way. I guess it came by just going back to the Word over and over...

Jerrysch said:

Quite a responce In its inception the church which Jesus built came out of a Jewish culture, it is really hard to tell how long, but throughout most of the book of Acts Jews predominated over Gentiles in membership. The fact that the apostles refer to Moses and Abraham among others spoken of in the Old(er) Testament indicates that the early church, the ekklasia of Messiah, was Jewish in its "roots". Indeed the gospel was first to the Jews and then to the Greeks.

Much of what is carried along by Christians regarding the Sabbath is tradition and nothing more. The truth of this is to be found in Scripture; Acts 15:

22 Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas,[e] and Silas, leading men among the brethren.
23 They wrote this, letter by them:

The apostles, the elders, and the brethren,

To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia:

Greetings.

24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, “You must be circumcised and keep the law”[f]—to whom we gave no such commandment— 25 it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth. 28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.[g] If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.

Farewell.​

These were the commands of the Apostalic council, if Christians were to keep the Sabbath, it would have been listed here.

But I still contend that those who think they are keeping the Sabbath today are not really doing so. The command regarding the Sabbath is clear and those who were to keep it were clear on who they were.

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The gentiles started to take prominence likely by 70 AD and most certainly by 130 AD.

As to the idea that it was just cultural, that assumes that Paul was just being cultural with the gentiles, when he was one of the main ones to advocate for the opposite in Acts 15. Not only that, but the church continued to keep the Sabbath for 400 years,...even the gentiles. That sounds like a little more than just habit.

Here is my take on the council in Acts 15



a. The council primarily settled that salvation is by faith for Jew and Gentile. The statement of the judaizers was that the gentiles had to be circumcises and obey all of the law of Moses to be saved. The council clearly rejected this.


Act 15:8 And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us,
Act 15:9 and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith.
Act 15:10 Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?
Act 15:11 But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will."


b. God indicated, by pouring out His Spirit on the gentiles, that they did not have to become Jews to become Christian. In Judaism a convert would be circumcised etc. But God called the Gentiles AS Gentiles.

c. The question was not "what do we do with the Jewish laws" but "what do we do with the gentiles." Ie, the law was NOT done away with. In fact, it is pretty clear that all assumed that the Jews would still keep the law--all of it.

Notice for instance Acts 21, in which James clearly understood this:


Act 21:19 After greeting them, he related one by one the things that God had done among the Gentiles through his ministry.
Act 21:20 And when they heard it, they glorified God. And they said to him, "You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed. They are all zealous for the law,
Act 21:21 and they have been told about you that you teach all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or walk according to our customs.
Act 21:22 What then is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come.

First this text tells us that the Jews in Jerusalem who became followers of Jesus were zealous for the law. They did not abandon it at all. Moreover, Paul does not say "yeah it is true, I tell Jews not to do these things”, but instead goes ahead with their plan to restore his name. He was not convincing Jews in the diaspora to abandon the law.

In later times the question of what to do with the gentiles was reversed by the church. What do Jews have to give up to be Christian? This was a departure from the original understanding. The gentiles were grafted into the vine, not the other way around. This is obvious in the Acts account.

d. The gentiles were given several restrictions, but even these were based on the Torah law. In fact the council seems to have simply applied the law to the geniles as it would to the "stranger" or "foreigner:" among them. OldSage pointed out the reference to Leviticus 17 and 18. The laws that were required of these foreigners within the law of Moses were required of the gentiles. Therefoere the decision was to UPHOLD the law, not overthrow the law of Moses. In effect they said that the gentiles only had to do those parts that applied to gentiles. Notice the references:

Eating blood:

LEV 17:10 " `Any Israelite or any alien living among them who eats any blood--I will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from his people. 11 For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one's life. 12 Therefore I say to the Israelites, "None of you may eat blood, nor may an alien living among you eat blood."


Sexual immorality:

LEV 18:6 " `No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD.
LEV 18:7 " `Do not dishonor your father by having sexual relations with your mother. She is your mother; do not have relations with her.
LEV 18:8 " `Do not have sexual relations with your father's wife; that would dishonor your father.
LEV 18:9 " `Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father's daughter or your mother's daughter, whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere.
LEV 18:10 " `Do not have sexual relations with your son's daughter or your daughter's daughter; that would dishonor you.
LEV 18:11 " `Do not have sexual relations with the daughter of your father's wife, born to your father; she is your sister.
LEV 18:12 " `Do not have sexual relations with your father's sister; she is your father's close relative.
LEV 18:13 " `Do not have sexual relations with your mother's sister, because she is your mother's close relative.
LEV 18:14 " `Do not dishonor your father's brother by approaching his wife to have sexual relations; she is your aunt.
LEV 18:15 " `Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your son's wife; do not have relations with her.
LEV 18:16 " `Do not have sexual relations with your brother's wife; that would dishonor your brother.
LEV 18:17 " `Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do not have sexual relations with either her son's daughter or her daughter's daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.
LEV 18:18 " `Do not take your wife's sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.
LEV 18:19 " `Do not approach a woman to have sexual relations during the uncleanness of her monthly period.
LEV 18:20 " `Do not have sexual relations with your neighbor's wife and defile yourself with her.
LEV 18:21 " `Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molech, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the LORD.
LEV 18:22 " `Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.
LEV 18:23 " `Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.
LEV 18:24 " `Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. 25 Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. 26 But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the aliens living among you must not do any of these detestable things, 27 for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. 28 And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you.


Idols

Lev 17:3 If any one of the house of Israel kills an ox or a lamb or a goat in the camp, or kills it outside the camp,
Lev 17:4 and does not bring it to the entrance of the tent of meeting to offer it as a gift to the LORD in front of the tabernacle of the LORD, bloodguilt shall be imputed to that man. He has shed blood, and that man shall be cut off from among his people.
Lev 17:5 This is to the end that the people of Israel may bring their sacrifices that they sacrifice in the open field, that they may bring them to the LORD, to the priest at the entrance of the tent of meeting, and sacrifice them as sacrifices of peace offerings to the LORD.
Lev 17:6 And the priest shall throw the blood on the altar of the LORD at the entrance of the tent of meeting and burn the fat for a pleasing aroma to the LORD.
Lev 17:7 So they shall no more sacrifice their sacrifices to goat demons, after whom they harlot. This shall be a statute forever for them throughout their generations.
Lev 17:8 "And you shall say to them, Any one of the house of Israel, or of the strangers who sojourn among them, who offers a burnt offering or sacrifice
Lev 17:9 and does not bring it to the entrance of the tent of meeting to offer it to the LORD, that man shall be cut off from his people.



e. The ten commandments were never on the table. To say otherwise would mean that the gentiles were given only a few aws and allowed to break all but one of the commandments. Any reading of Paul's letters to the gentiles shows that he would not approve of this. He not only referenced portions of the ten commandments, but also mentioned other requirements not listed here.

f. The Sabbath was not on the table. This should be obvious from the above. But as an additional note, the Sabbath was also required of foreigners among the Israelites. And mention is made, in announcing the decision of Moses being preached in the synagogue on every Sabbath. The Sabbath was a reality for the church at that time. In fact, when Paul wanted to hunt Christians he went first to the synagogues. The Christians in Jerusalem could hardly be “zealous for the law” if they were breaking one of the ten commandments. Moreover we see evidence in history that Christians attended synagogue next to the Jews until they were eventually expelled. The majority of Christians kept the Sabbath for at least 400 years, and some still do today, such as the Coptic church.

g. The decision seemed to gain near universal approval. Why? Because it UPHELD the law, and even the Judaizers who heard Moses preached every week had to acknowledge that the law provided rules for the Israelite AND the stranger among them.


Alternative interpretations:

These are some of the interpretations I have dismissed for my own part, but others find compelling:

Pagan practices. This view holds that the gentiles really don't have to obey ANY law, but that these essentials were bound on them because they particularly safe-guarded them from practices of the day in pagan worship (drinking blood, ritual sexual activity, food sacrificed to idols etc.).

Strengths:
1. Generally explains why some laws might be retained.
2. Fits what we know of at least some of the gentile populations (Corinth especially), in that they were enticed to sexual immorality ,etc.
3. Other?

Weaknesses:
1. No mention is made in the text of the issue of pagan practices. The issue was whether the gentiles should have to keep the whole law of Moses.
2. Why would Paul, etc. approve of binding regulations on people from the law of Moses if in fact they were not under any law? This would be a compromise of his principles.
3. Were there not other pressing gentile issues that could be addressed?
4. antinomian. Even Paul said that the law was upheld, and Jesus said that He did not come to do away with the law.
5. This view sees the requirements as temporary ,but there is no indication from the council that they were.

Compromise. This view likewise holds that no law is binding on the gentiles. However, in order to not offend the Jews some things were required.

Strengths:
1. The council mentions that only a few essentials should be required.
2. The Jews really were offended by gentile practices.
3. Other?

Weaknesses:
1. Antinomian, see above.
2. Makes the apostles seem more like politicians than those standing up for truth. Again, Paul would not put up with "judaizing lite"
3. The Jews would be offended by any number of additional items.
4. Again, sees as a temporary compromise, but the council doesn't seem to indicate that this is temporary. It calls the requirements "essentials" not "accomodations."

Jerrysch said:

One good way to insure that no one reads your post is to make it longer than about 100 words.

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Some issues are complex. I would rather post long posts that get my pionts out, and then read a long post which gets the point of the one I am talking to out. Since I am only here at certain times it is nice to have something substantial to consider when I read the thread. Then I can think it over, respond, and wait for the next round.

Jerrysch said:

Quite a responce In its inception the church which Jesus built came out of a Jewish culture, it is really hard to tell how long, but throughout most of the book of Acts Jews predominated over Gentiles in membership. The fact that the apostles refer to Moses and Abraham among others spoken of in the Old(er) Testament indicates that the early church, the ekklasia of Messiah, was Jewish in its "roots". Indeed the gospel was first to the Jews and then to the Greeks.

Much of what is carried along by Christians regarding the Sabbath is tradition and nothing more. The truth of this is to be found in Scripture; Acts 15:

22 Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas,[e] and Silas, leading men among the brethren.
23 They wrote this, letter by them:

The apostles, the elders, and the brethren,

To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia:

Greetings.

24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, “You must be circumcised and keep the law”[f]—to whom we gave no such commandment— 25 it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth. 28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.[g] If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.

Farewell.​

These were the commands of the Apostalic council, if Christians were to keep the Sabbath, it would have been listed here.

But I still contend that those who think they are keeping the Sabbath today are not really doing so. The command regarding the Sabbath is clear and those who were to keep it were clear on who they were.

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The conclusions of the Jerusalem Council were not a complete statement of doctrine of the NT Christian church at that time, it was simply a response to the controversy that developed between the Jewish and Gentile Christians as the 1st century church grew in numbers and cultures clashed. The Sabbath was not a point of controversy because at that time it was the only day kept holy. Additionlly, there was no new commandment to keep the 1st day of the week holy either. If there was a 1st day sabbath doctrine degreed by the Jerusalem Council it would have created a huge controversy among the Jewish Christians!

28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: 29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.[g] If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.

Farewell.

These were the commands of the Apostalic council, if Christians were to keep the Sabbath, it would have been listed here.

But I still contend that those who think they are keeping the Sabbath today are not really doing so. The command regarding the Sabbath is clear and those who were to keep it were clear on who they were.

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Keep in mind the context of these verses - that they do not supercede the rest of scripture, but speak to a specific problem.
Verse five identifies part of the problem but not fully. Circumcision is not part of the ten commandments, but is part of the Old Covenant. The New Covenant does not require circumcision since the shedding of blood has once and for all time been accomplished to the Father's satisfaction in Jesus' shed blood at the cross.
Besides the ten commandments, there were many ordinances, but I don't see even that they are fully addressed other than to the particular circumstance that those verses apply to. I don't see how any other scripture about observing and keeping God's commandments can be discounted by the given text; when taken in context.

woobadooba said:

Oh, but you do err, for the Sabbath, according to Jesus, "was made for man" Mk. 2:27, not merely ethnic Israel!

By the way that's "anthropos", meaning ALL humankind! Yes, even you.

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The context of the quote you have sighted is ;

23One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and as his disciples walked along, they began to pick some heads of grain. 24The Pharisees said to him, "Look, why are they doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?"

25He answered, "Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need? 26In the days of Abiathar the high priest, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions." 27Then he said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. 28So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath."

Jesus was speaking as a Jew to Jews about a Jewish point of law. His statement regarding the Sabbath being made for man was given in that context. Indeed the Sabbath is a blessing, who would consider resting one day out of seven as anything else? But many seek to make the Sabbath into something which God did not intend it to be The Pharisees sought to do so in the days of Yeshua's ministry and ther are those who seek to redefine it today, but why?

Jerrysch said:

The context of the quote you have sighted is ;

23One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and as his disciples walked along, they began to pick some heads of grain. 24The Pharisees said to him, "Look, why are they doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?"

25He answered, "Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need? 26In the days of Abiathar the high priest, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions." 27Then he said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. 28So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath."

Jesus was speaking as a Jew to Jews about a Jewish point of law. His statement regarding the Sabbath being made for man was given in that context. Indeed the Sabbath is a blessing, who would consider resting one day out of seven as anything else? But many seek to make the Sabbath into something which God did not intend it to be The Pharisees sought to do so in the days of Yeshua's ministry and ther are those who seek to redefine it today, but why?

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You know, this is the kind of exegetical dishonesty that really frustrates me. I just don't know why people can't be honest with the scriptures.

Jesus made it clear that the Sabbath was made for man, not merely the Jew, but for all humankind.