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Sorry, I couldn't find the thread - maybe it was deleted??  Could you please address the question of "what must I do/believe to be saved?  An official teaching of the Church would be appreciated ....

I know that Catholics cannot participate in "all" seven sacraments .... but what part do they play in the act of salvation??  There are those who think that the Catholic church teaches that baptism "saves" ... but I don't see where the church teaches that ...

For those of you who are reading this that are NOT Catholic, please refrain from posting a view that is not of the Catholic church and turning this into a debate (strong hint going out to those who drop in sarcastic one-liners and run).

Thank you ...
 

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Here's the official church teaching found in the catechism.

I. The Particular Judgment


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Death puts an end to human life as the time open to either accepting or rejecting the divine grace manifested in Christ.592 The New Testament speaks of judgment primarily in its aspect of the final encounter with Christ in his second coming, but also repeatedly affirms that each will be rewarded immediately after death in accordance with his works and faith. The parable of the poor man Lazarus and the words of Christ on the cross to the good thief, as well as other New Testament texts speak of a final destiny of the soul—a destiny which can be different for some and for others.593


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Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven—through a purification594 or immediately,595—or immediate and everlasting damnation.596


At the evening of life, we shall be judged on our love.597

II. Heaven


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Those who die in God's grace and friendship and are perfectly purified live for ever with Christ. They are like God for ever, for they "see him as he is," face to face:598


By virtue of our apostolic authority, we define the following: According to the general disposition of God, the souls of all the saints . . . and other faithful who died after receiving Christ's holy Baptism (provided they were not in need of purification when they died, . . . or, if they then did need or will need some purification, when they have been purified after death, . . .) already before they take up their bodies again and before the general judgment—and this since the Ascension of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ into heaven—have been, are and will be in heaven, in the heavenly Kingdom and celestial paradise with Christ, joined to the company of the holy angels. Since the Passion and death of our Lord Jesus Christ, these souls have seen and do see the divine essence with an intuitive vision, and even face to face, without the mediation of any creature.599


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This perfect life with the Most Holy Trinity—this communion of life and love with the Trinity, with the Virgin Mary, the angels and all the blessed—is called "heaven." Heaven is the ultimate end and fulfillment of the deepest human longings, the state of supreme, definitive happiness.


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To live in heaven is "to be with Christ." The elect live "in Christ,"600 but they retain, or rather find, their true identity, their own name.601


For life is to be with Christ; where Christ is, there is life, there is the kingdom.602


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By his death and Resurrection, Jesus Christ has "opened" heaven to us. The life of the blessed consists in the full and perfect possession of the fruits of the redemption accomplished by Christ. He makes partners in his heavenly glorification those who have believed in him and remained faithful to his will. Heaven is the blessed community of all who are perfectly incorporated into Christ.


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This mystery of blessed communion with God and all who are in Christ is beyond all understanding and description. Scripture speaks of it in images: life, light, peace, wedding feast, wine of the kingdom, the Father's house, the heavenly Jerusalem, paradise: "no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man conceived, what God has prepared for those who love him."603


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Because of his transcendence, God cannot be seen as he is, unless he himself opens up his mystery to man's immediate contemplation and gives him the capacity for it. The Church calls this contemplation of God in his heavenly glory "the beatific vision":


How great will your glory and happiness be, to be allowed to see God, to be honored with sharing the joy of salvation and eternal light with Christ your Lord and God, . . . to delight in the joy of immortality in the Kingdom of heaven with the righteous and God's friends.604


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In the glory of heaven the blessed continue joyfully to fulfill God's will in relation to other men and to all creation. Already they reign with Christ; with him "they shall reign for ever and ever."605

III. The Final Purification, or Purgatory


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All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.


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The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.606 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:607


As for certain lesser faults, we must believe that, before the Final Judgment, there is a purifying fire. He who is truth says that whoever utters blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be pardoned neither in this age nor in the age to come. From this sentence we understand that certain offenses can be forgiven in this age, but certain others in the age to come.608


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This teaching is also based on the practice of prayer for the dead, already mentioned in Sacred Scripture: "Therefore [Judas Maccabeus] made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin."609 From the beginning the Church has honored the memory of the dead and offered prayers in suffrage for them, above all the Eucharistic sacrifice, so that, thus purified, they may attain the beatific vision of God.610 The Church also commends almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead:


Let us help and commemorate them. If Job's sons were purified by their father's sacrifice, why would we doubt that our offerings for the dead bring them some consolation? Let us not hesitate to help those who have died and to offer our prayers for them.611

IV. Hell


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We cannot be united with God unless we freely choose to love him. But we cannot love God if we sin gravely against him, against our neighbor or against ourselves: "He who does not love remains in death. Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him."612 Our Lord warns us that we shall be separated from him if we fail to meet the serious needs of the poor and the little ones who are his brethren.613 To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God's merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self-exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called "hell."


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Jesus often speaks of "Gehenna," of "the unquenchable fire" reserved for those who to the end of their lives refuse to believe and be converted, where both soul and body can be lost.614 Jesus solemnly proclaims that he "will send his angels, and they will gather . . . all evil doers, and throw them into the furnace of fire,"615 and that he will pronounce the condemnation: "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire!"616


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The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire."617 The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.


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The affirmations of Sacred Scripture and the teachings of the Church on the subject of hell are a call to the responsibility incumbent upon man to make use of his freedom in view of his eternal destiny. They are at the same time an urgent call to conversion: "Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few."618


Since we know neither the day nor the hour, we should follow the advice of the Lord and watch constantly so that, when the single course of our earthly life is completed, we may merit to enter with him into the marriage feast and be numbered among the blessed, and not, like the wicked and slothful servants, be ordered to depart into the eternal fire, into the outer darkness where "men will weep and gnash their teeth."619


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God predestines no one to go to hell;620 for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end. In the Eucharistic liturgy and in the daily prayers of her faithful, the Church implores the mercy of God, who does not want "any to perish, but all to come to repentance":621


Father, accept this offering
from your whole family.
Grant us your peace in this life,
save us from final damnation,
and count us among those you have chosen.622


I will try to summarize.  The Catholic Church teaches that if you die in a state of grace (no mortal or venial sin) you go straight to heaven.  If you die with venial sin, you go to Purgatory, if you die in mortal sin, you go to hell.  The Catechism goes into more detail, but I think what I just mentioned are the basics.


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Hi PrinceJeff,

Grace, faith and works are different words =)

I guess I'll give my explanation:

faith and works is the result of God's grace =)

Those who are truly in Christ not only believe in God (faith), but they live for God (works).  The 'fruit' of the Christian is the works they do (John 15:5, John 15:8).  No fruit means, they'll be cut off (John 15:2)

Hope that helps =)

-Jason
 
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Originally posted by LilyLamb
 

Sorry, I couldn't find the thread - maybe it was deleted??  Could you please address the question of "what must I do/believe to be saved?  An official teaching of the Church would be appreciated ....

I know that Catholics cannot participate in "all" seven sacraments .... but what part do they play in the act of salvation??  There are those who think that the Catholic church teaches that baptism "saves" ... but I don't see where the church teaches that ...

For those of you who are reading this that are NOT Catholic, please refrain from posting a view that is not of the Catholic church and turning this into a debate (strong hint going out to those who drop in sarcastic one-liners and run).

Thank you ...

Hi LilyLamb

I'm not Catholic, but I'm considering becoming Catholic =P Anyway, here's my thoughts on salvation:

1) Believe the essentials: Christ's death, resurrection on 3rd day, died for our sins, etc (John 3:16, 1 Cor 15:14, 1 Cor 15:3, Heb 9:15)

2) Remain in Christ (John 15:1-17)

3) Get baptized

Why?  I'll give several reasons:

1) Jesus himself was baptized (Matt 3:16)

2) Believers are identified in Christ's death and resurrection, through baptism (Rom 6:3-6).

3) 1 Pet 3:21 talks about 'baptism which saves', which makes it clear that baptism does save.

4) John 3:5 makes it clear that, 'no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit'. 

5) In Matt 28:19, Jesus says to his disciples, 'go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit'. 


A friend of mine (who is also not a Catholic) once sent me an email about the significance of baptism.  I think it'll be useful:

THE GOSPEL AND BAPTISM ARE ALWAYS UNITED IN BOOK OF ACTS

Can one read the book of Acts without noticing the primary importance of
baptism to the gospel message in every case?  In every case that the
gospel is preached the required response is BAPTISM INTO CHRIST:

Acts 2:37-38,41
Men and bretheren, what shall we do?  Peter said to them, "Repent, and
each of you BE BAPTIZED in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness
of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.  So
then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there
were added about three thousand souls.

Acts 8:12-13
But when they believed Philip preaching the good news about the kingdom
of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were being BAPTIZED, men and
women alike.  Even Simon himself believed; and after being BAPTIZED...

JASON, CHECK THIS SEQUENCE OUT:  THE EUNUCH UNDERSTOOD BAPTISM AS
ESSENTIAL IN PHILIP'S PRESENTATION OF THE GOSPEL...

Acts 8:35-38
Then Philip opened his mouth, and beginning from this Scripture HE
PREACHED JESUS TO HIM.  As they went along the road they came to some
water; and the eunuch said, "Look! Water!  WHAT PREVENTS ME FROM BEING
BAPTIZED?"  And Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you
may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son
of God."  And he ordered the chariot to stop; and they both went down
into the water, Philip as well as the eunuch, and he BAPTIZED him.


PAUL is baptized immediately:
Acts 9:18
And immediately there fell from his eyes something like scales, and he
regained his sight, and he got up and was BAPTIZED;

Acts 10:47-48
"Surely no one can refuse THE WATER FOR THESE TO BE BAPTIZED who have
received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?"  And HE ORDERED THEM
TO BE BAPTIZED in the name of Jesus Christ.

Acts 16:15 (Lydia of Thyatira)
And when she and her household had been BAPTIZED,

Acts 16:33
And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds,
and IMMEDIATELY HE WAS BAPTIZED, he and all his household.

Acts 18:8
Crispus, the leader of the synagogue, believed in the Lord with all his
household, and many of the Corinthians when they heard WERE BELIEVING
AND BEING BAPTIZED.

READ ALL OF ACTS 18:24-19:7 (the men had John's Baptism but not Christ's
yet, so they immediately got baptized into Christ)

Acts 22:16
'Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins,
calling on His name.'


However, one might be quick to ask:  Well if someone believes in the essentials (Christ's death, resurrection, etc), and decides to follow Christ, are they saved if they don't get baptized?

I think VOW may've answered this earlier.  There are 3 possible answers to that:

1)  If a new believer didn't have the opportunity for baptism, then he'll go to heaven (just like the thief who died next to Jesus).  God seems to always have his exceptions.  The Church teaches this as Baptism of Desire.

2)  A similar circumstance is if a new believer was martyred for Christ and wasn't baptized, the Church calls this Baptism of Blood

3)  But if a believer REFUSES to get baptized, I think it says a lot about the believer's heart-that he doesn't want to identify himself with Christ (Rom 3:3-6), which really makes me wonder:  Is he/she a believer at all?

Hope that helps! =)

-Jason
 
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